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I enjoyed Adams video and his take on putters. He's right on about the boutique 1 offs as I've bought a few in the past and realize they are more “art” than technology.

The putter I'm using now Odyssey # 7 sometimes looks to me like a 1950's hood ornament but it sure feels good.

 

 

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5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

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Just finished watching the video. It was GREAT. I am one of those people that previously bought putters for 'looks & feel' (and OK, maybe to show off a little). Bought a Scotty Studio Select Newport 1.5 - I absolutely had to have it. It looked so good and actually felt good and sounded good as well. Just one small problem, I couldn't make any puts with it. I track and chart every round I play. The Scotty cost me way more when we got back to the club house than what I paid for it. Still love the look, but sold it at a loss to save money. I now average 1.6 putts a hole through a good season of golf. I know, I know, doesn't seem to show up on my handicap, but it does. I just play fairway shots like s@!*.

Keep up the great work.

 

p.s. - tried to log in and couldn't - been a while, so maybe I got purged (still get all the emails though)

 

Thanks again, rexall34

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Have an MLA and am loving it! It has definitely helped improve my putting. Thanks MGS!!

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5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R)
7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R)

4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3)
5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3)
6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 
54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite)
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Have an MLA and am loving it! It has definitely helped improve my putting. Thanks MGS!!

I second this. One of those brands that are under the radar, but definitely need to be talked about.

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Anyone take MLA up on the offer

https://www.mla.golf/collections/mygolfspy

 

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Not an MLA, but I'm having something built for me :D

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4h: :mizuno-small: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S

Irons 5-PW: :mizuno-small: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S

Wedges: :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105

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Interesting reading the discussion on this video over on one of the other forums.  Got shut down for a while and then opened back up after requests from the membership.  Quite a bit of MGS bashing.

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Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
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Interesting reading the discussion on this video over on one of the other forums. Got shut down for a while and then opened back up after requests from the membership. Quite a bit of MGS bashing.

Bashing usually means jealousy.

 

 

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Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

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Bashing usually means jealousy.

 

 

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I don't do other golf forums. But I'd guess they're mad he's dissing the putters they use.

 

 

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Interesting reading the discussion on this video over on one of the other forums. Got shut down for a while and then opened back up after requests from the membership. Quite a bit of MGS bashing.

I'd like to know who's jealous of MGS? I've got an idea who it might be however I can't grasp the reason behind it. Sounds a bit insecure to me.

 

 

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I'd like to know who's jealous of MGS? I've got an idea who it might be however I can't grasp the reason behind it. Sounds a bit insecure to me.

 

 

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I could guess that the website is similar to a Subaru model...

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Fairway: :callaway-logo-1: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5

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Wedges: :mizuno-small: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4
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I could guess that the website is similar to a Subaru model...

  Either that or a 1952 Studebaker

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Ah man, I was just about to post this exact thing.

Ya, me too

 

 

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Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

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http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1558788-mgs-rant-on-putter-artisans/page__pid__16389946?do=findComment&comment=16389946

 

They're allowing the discussion to be opened back up on WRX of this video... Thought some might want to see that discussion as well.

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Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
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XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
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http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1558788-mgs-rant-on-putter-artisans/page__pid__16389946?do=findComment&comment=16389946

 

They're allowing the discussion to be opened back up on WRX of this video... Thought some might want to see that discussion as well.

Thanks for posting the link. I was in no hurry to go search myself. Granted I haven't read the whole thread, but most of the comments I'm reading seem to be on the same side of the discussion as Adam (or at least understand what he's getting at).

 

 

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Oh man...why did Rookie have to post that link.  I went and read it, made what I thought was a rationale post and immediately got quoted and replied back by a troll.  Should have known better..ha

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Oh man...why did Rookie have to post that link. I went and read it, made what I thought was a rationale post and immediately got quoted and replied back by a troll. Should have known better..ha

Oh geez. I'll give you emotional support like I give the Redskins but I'm not about to suit up.

 

 

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Oh geez. I'll give you emotional support like I give the Redskins but I'm not about to suit up.

 

 

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LMAO. Thats funny. But very wise. Fighting trolls is a no win situations.

 

 

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LMAO. Thats funny. But very wise. Fighting trolls is a no win situations.

 

 

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Well I followed the kind Rookie posted. WOW

There sure is a bit of hate, jealousy whatever on the “dark side”.

Carolina, u did give it a honest try to communicate in good faith.

 

 

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Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

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The sad thing is that I will go to WRX and read things of interest. I've tried posting a time or two. They are many fine people there as there are here. Thankfully we seem to pack the ones who love to pontificate.

 

Occasionally several of us will vent (myself included) but it's occasional not predictable.

 

I dare say that when it comes to tech Adam knows what he's talked about. People don't like to hear that their favorite or the thing that they just shelled out $400 or more for is a sham. So they go after the messenger.

 

It is curious to me that positives about EVNRoll have twice elicited such violent reactions. Could be coincidence but it is of note.

 

 

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The sad thing is that I will go to WRX and read things of interest. I've tried posting a time or two. They are many fine people there as there are here. Thankfully we seem to pack the ones who love to pontificate.

 

Occasionally several of us will vent (myself included) but it's occasional not predictable.

 

I dare say that when it comes to tech Adam knows what he's talked about. People don't like to hear that their favorite or the thing that they just shelled out $400 or more for is a sham. So they go after the messenger.

 

It is curious to me that positives about EVNRoll have twice elicited such violent reactions. Could be coincidence but it is of note.

 

 

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I've never been on that site but I poked around and it does strike me more as a "typical forum." It's the type of place where knowledgeable opinions are intermixed with personal attacks and aggressive behavior.

 

I tend to think of MGS as more of a community. People have different opinions and discuss them in civility. While I've seen heated disagreements, I have yet to see a personal attack.

 

 

It's still different strokes for different folks. WRX is successful for a different reason than MGS but it can't be denied that they're both influential forums in the golf community.

 

 

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I used to check into that site occasionally but never got into it. I don't care for the attack mode by some. It's so easy to attack when hiding behind a computer screen. Face to face won't happen.

 

 

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Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

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Yep. I still visit it from time to time. And for the most part my exchanges and comments have been met with other reasonable and productive comments. Even if it's a differing view. But you run into to occasional jerk trying to show their bravado on a keyboard and it reminds me why I don't visit as often anymore.

 

Stud summed it up pretty well.

 

 

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On topic. I did order a MLA last night. I was intrigued by those during the review and the MGS discount made it too tough to pass up.

 

 

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On topic. I did order a MLA last night. I was intrigued by those during the review and the MGS discount made it too tough to pass up.

 

 

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If I didn't purchase an Odyssey Oworks #7 last month I would be all over this. But SWMBO would have a fit.

 

 

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Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

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If I didn't purchase an Odyssey Oworks #7 last month I would be all over this. But SWMBO would have a fit.

 

 

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I understand. Putter is actually one thing I haven't bought in almost two years. So I was due. Ha

 

 

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Let's see if they will have me on to debate our FACTS and their BS ;) Wont happen because they see us as competition but it really needs to.

 

Our purpose is to LEARN. EDUCATE and EMPOWER. Let's see what WRX's purpose is in this industry.

 

Either evolve the conversation from the ridiculous (which is where we are on this topic) or just stop talking WRX. Thinking/Knowing technology works in all other categories (drivers, irons, etc) and thinking for some reason it does not for putters is just plain ignorant.

 

Being completely honest these type of people on WRX with these baseless (they never have any research to back up anything) comments are doing more harm to other golfers and the industry than good. 

 

A name doesn't get you closer to the hole, technology does.

 

 

* Feel free top post that on WRX as a challenge of sorts to move to conversation forward not laterally or backwards. 

#TruthDigest
 

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The proliferation of mental midgets over there never ceases to amaze me. Rather, it's further confirmation of how uphill the battle can be when you're entirely dedicated to performance. 

 

Humans will always have preferences which are colored by non-performance attributes (brand preference, aesthetics, vanity, etc) - That's not the point. 

 

The point is when you have a single metric and a single focus, you hold those other factors constant. Some can handle this type of analysis and approach - and clearly others cannot. 

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