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Let's see if they will have me on to debate our FACTS and their BS Wont happen because they see us as competition but it really needs to.   Our purpose is to LEARN. EDUCATE and EMPOWER. Let's see w

How about we do one better. Tell your wife I am sending you one for free.   On me.     Shoot me your address to adam.beach@mygolfspy.com      

Such a great video   https://youtu.be/1cE-xqiQnIc

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Look at ole Adam all buffed up like a stud mule in a wagon pulling contest.  I'll tell ya one thing, he don't lay the butter down heavy unless the corn is hot.

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I thoroughly enjoyed that video.

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Great video. Hits the nail on the head.

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I feel like I just got scolded since he was talking directly to the camera [emoji30]

 

Seriously though, great piece.

 

 

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I feel like I just got scolded since he was talking directly to the camera [emoji30]

Seriously though, great piece.

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LOL!! I know right. Amazing how it felt like he was addressing me directly. "Golfers are rhe dumbest smart people I know," what a great quote.

 

But his entire take makes so much sense, why don't more of us listen?

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Look at ole Adam all buffed up like a stud mule in a wagon pulling contest.  I'll tell ya one thing, he don't lay the butter down heavy unless the corn is hot.

 

LOL! I have no idea what this means, but I like corn and butter.

 

LOL!! I know right. Amazing how it felt like he was addressing me directly. "Golfers are rhe dumbest smart people I know," what a great quote.

 

But his entire take makes so much sense, why don't more of us listen?

 

Because ego. I'm guilty of it too. Wish I could get custom fit for an Evnroll :(. The grip is just too big and I'm scared to put a different one on and throw the whole putter off. Like retrofitting a different engine in a car, it just feels wrong to me (to use his car building analogy).

 

Guerin needs to take a trip to Hawaii and have a big fitting day. I'll market the hell out of it.

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Makes a lot of sense.

 

Hey AB, undo the top button mate!  :D

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LOL! I have no idea what this means, but I like corn and butter.

 

 

Because ego. I'm guilty of it too. Wish I could get custom fit for an Evnroll :(. The grip is just too big and I'm scared to put a different one on and throw the whole putter off. Like retrofitting a different engine in a car, it just feels wrong to me (to use his car building analogy).

 

Guerin needs to take a trip to Hawaii and have a big fitting day. I'll market the hell out of it.

 

There's a standard grip available when you order

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I would like some clarification on exactly what is a "no tech" putter.  In the video he only mentioned 3 putter brands.  What about new Odyssey putters, or the Cleveland Huntington Beach putters that tested well. 

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For some reason when he started talking about the way a putter "looks" vs performance the first thing that came to my mind is "I wonder what car he drives?"....

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...and then at the end of the video he talks about cars.  HAHA!

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I've bought 1 boutique putter in my golfing career...worst $600 I've ever spent. It looked great, felt great, couldn't make a dang thing. Took 7 months to get it in my hands and only a few weeks before I sold it. 

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... and it's not just the putters. Some, actually a lot, of the Cameron headcovers go for more than a hundred dollars... FOR A PUTTER HEADCOVER.

 

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... and it's not just the putters. Some, actually a lot, of the Cameron headcovers go for more than a hundred dollars... FOR A PUTTER HEADCOVER.

 

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But I don't think he was attacking the price point or collection of the boutique brands. He actually said by all means collect the stuff, just dont expect it to make your game better.

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I would like some clarification on exactly what is a "no tech" putter.  In the video he only mentioned 3 putter brands.  What about new Odyssey putters, or the Cleveland Huntington Beach putters that tested well. 

 

Basically a no tech putter  as discussed in the video is a putter that doesn't have a face that helps ensure the ball rolls consistent distances on miss hits or as is discussed with the evnroll that the ball will curve back toward the center on miss hits.   I don't believe any Odyssey insert accomplishes this;  to me the face is just a mushy feel that mutes the feel on off center hits.  Another manufacturer that would be considered is Bobby Grace and some if his inserts.  

 

After having tested  all of those putters,  I believe in evnroll insert does help get a consistent roll on misshits.  The "tech" is based on how much material comes into contact with the ball and how much energy is transferred to the ball.  Less mass in the center provides less energy and as you move out there is more material to transfer more energy.  

 

That said,  I believe that there will be benefit from faces that help on misshits provided there is feedback on where you misshit the ball so you can determine why the ball went a certain distance or direction.  I have a hard time with the assertion that the ball will curve back toward the center when misshit.  I also believe that tech on a poorly fit putter will not make up for the poor fit and that a properly fit putter will help you have a more consistent strike and potentially eliminate some of the need for the tech.  

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