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I can't believe no one has bitten yet. It's a mental and physical challenge like hitting a baseball. It requires patience, integrity, humility, self control, humor and lots more.

 

 

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It requires being pissed off while at the same time keeping ya cool

 

 

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I'm going with "physics"; specifically the notion that your target is only 4.25" wide and up to 1/3 mile away, over hazard laden natural terrain. The fact that some humans are capable of reliably shepherding their ball around the course under par is baffling.

 

 

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No matter your skill level.What makes this game so difficult?

Because your head gets in the way??

 

 

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... When you stop and think about the game, really think about it, controlling a small ball with a stick having different weights, faces and lengths and making it do exactly what you want it to do is insanely radical. Hit it high, low, with spin, without spin and while swinging as hard as you can control your stick with one shot hoping it goes as far as possible, rolling even more and the next requiring a full swing with amazing delicacy and touch hoping it only goes 5 yards to clear a bunker but stops quickly and doesn't roll. Then having an even shorter stick that just makes the ball roll without getting it in the air over uneven terrain that is on a slant and one surface is night and day different than another, sometimes on the same course making the small ball roll faster or slower, might be reasons it is so difficult? And this doesn't even take into account our mental ability to control our emotions as well as focus with razor sharp acuity. 

... My 26yr old son summed it up best. We both played college football and he said "football is very intense and can be extremely difficult, especially physically. But golf is by far the hardest sport I have ever played. With football if I was struggling, I could always put more effort into it. But with golf, any extra effort always results in disaster". 

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I like the answers above,  the other is that it is never the same twice.   You can play the course back to back and the wind will be different or the temperature will be different all causing the ball to fly or move differently.   

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... When you stop and think about the game, really think about it, controlling a small ball with a stick having different weights, faces and lengths and making it do exactly what you want it to do is insanely radical. Hit it high, low, with spin and while swinging as hard as you can control your stick with one shot hoping it goes as far as possible, rolling out even more and the next requiring a full swing with amazing delicacy and touch hoping it only goes 5 yards to clear a bunker but stops quickly and doesn't roll. Then having an even shorter stick that just makes the ball roll without getting in the air over uneven terrain that is on a slant and one surface is night and day different than another, sometimes on the same course making the small ball roll faster or slower, might be reasons it is so difficult? And this doesn't even take into account our mental ability to control our emotions as well as focus with razor sharp acuity.

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Not to mention different courses, different course conditions, temp, humidity, wind, etc etc.

 

 

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Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts 

:titelist-small: SM7 54* Wedge

:ping-small: Glide 3.0  60* Wedge

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All great replies.Personally, I think the game has so many facets to it.You have long game/iron game/chipping - pitching - bunker/and putting.Each has its own techniques and nuances that just add to the uniqueness of golf

 

Plus the margin of error between a great shot-mediocre-terrible- is so small at times.Just dwelling on the complexities and challenges to even advance a golf ball straight is mind boggling

Keep it in the short stuff

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I can't believe no one has bitten yet. It's a mental and physical challenge like hitting a baseball. It requires patience, integrity, humility, self control, humor and lots more.

 

 

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Rev, I think a baseball is easier to hit, lol.

 

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I can't believe no one has bitten yet. It's a mental and physical challenge like hitting a baseball. It requires patience, integrity, humility, self control, humor and lots more.

 

 

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I've found the more beer/spirits I consume, the less I care how hard it is. Alcohol is novocaine  for golf. ;) .......and... golf is the most fun you can have while being aggravated to death!

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... When you stop and think about the game, really think about it, controlling a small ball with a stick having different weights, faces and lengths and making it do exactly what you want it to do is insanely radical. Hit it high, low, with spin, without spin and while swinging as hard as you can control your stick with one shot hoping it goes as far as possible, rolling even more and the next requiring a full swing with amazing delicacy and touch hoping it only goes 5 yards to clear a bunker but stops quickly and doesn't roll. Then having an even shorter stick that just makes the ball roll without getting it in the air over uneven terrain that is on a slant and one surface is night and day different than another, sometimes on the same course making the small ball roll faster or slower, might be reasons it is so difficult? And this doesn't even take into account our mental ability to control our emotions as well as focus with razor sharp acuity. 

 

... My 26yr old son summed it up best. We both played college football and he said "football is very intense and can be extremely difficult, especially physically. But golf is by far the hardest sport I have ever played. With football if I was struggling, I could always put more effort into it. But with golf, any extra effort always results in disaster". 

Couple of other things.... the playing field changes daily or completely, the weather is never the same.... and as chisag said, we have a brain. That last one is probably the biggest issue.

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I've found the more beer/spirits I consume, the less I care how hard it is. Alcohol is novocaine for golf. ;) .......and... golf is the most fun you can have while being aggravated to death!

We do need to stick a peg in the ground

 

 

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Not sure. Played 54 today at -8....easy game I say.

 

Now back to reality in that I could shoot three rounds in the 80's tomorrow. What makes this game hard is the slightest adjustment can have adverse results and unless Golf is your full time job then you can't fix a slight adjustment. Right now playing golf happens to be my full time job so it is easy to be consistent. Three weeks ago when I actually had a real job it was brutal to play well in my two rounds a week with no practice.

 

 

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My father likes to say "if it was easy everybody would do it and it wouldn't pay as much."

 

 

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It's hard for everyone.... even the "pros"... 

Can't say I've done this before but I've never putted on greens that are like my kitchen floor either.

 

Hey, it can happen to anyone. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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If golf was easy nobody would play. One day you think you have it and the next day you wonder where it went. It's the never ending quest to have it all come together at the same time. Golf is hard because there are just so many variables day in and day out.

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It's hard for everyone.... even the "pros"... 

Can't say I've done this before but I've never putted on greens that are like my kitchen floor either.

 

 

Hey, it can happen to anyone. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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:lol: :lol: :lol: That's awesome! I can't completely relate to that, but close.

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It's hard for everyone.... even the "pros"...

Can't say I've done this before but I've never putted on greens that are like my kitchen floor either.

 

 

Hey, it can happen to anyone. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Schneiderjans was putting pretty well from what I saw earlier in the round too

 

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So years ago I'm about a 15-16 handicap and playing with a club pro on hole 5 180 to the pin I hit 6 iron to 18”. Birdie. On 16 510 yard I hit drive and 5 iron and hit the pin 12” eagle putt. I shoot 84. Not bad. After the round drinking a beer the pro says any pro would love to hit those two shots. I said but I shot 84. He said that's the beauty of Golf and why we come back. Enjoy those great shots and forget the bad ones. I'm a 8 handicap now and will never forget what he said.

 

 

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When I'm having a bad day on the course... and pick up my little white friend and say I thought we had an understanding...I know I used to hit your friend the baseball hard and not care where it went. But things changed I care where you go. Why won't you go where I want you to go!!!!!!!! To answer your question though it's mostly mental. A 90mph fastball doesn't give you time to think. It's a natural reaction at least for me. Same with almost all sports for me. This sports has taken me out of my natural element if you will and forces me to think instead of react. Which is A reason I really enjoy it now. Keeps me wanting more

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Simple. Its a "skill" game. But a simple game. (start here put ball in hole there in as few shots as possible) But the hard part is all the different variables involved in each shot.

 

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^ That's it, really!

 

This game is soooo deceptively simple - on the surface...... Not like say, tennis or baseball, where the ball is moving towards you and the motions required to move to the ball and return it in the opposite direction are so much more complex.

 

In golf the ball is just sitting there, patiently awaiting its "instructions" as delivered by the clubhead.

 

And that's what killed me trying to learn this game. My prior activities .. eg. skiing, surfing .. are more dynamic; you're in motion and adapting to the changing slope or wave.

 

So I'm starting to understand what a HUGE part of this game the mental aspect is ... and starting to understand that you can't really progress until you start to overcome your own internal obstacles and hurdles.

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This game comes down to the wire, minuscule details. A tiny little adjustment of the club face and hands, create a wide array of results. I think of swing like a fan, the better the strike plus path, narrows the fan. All this is even before we get to custom fitting and the mental aspect of the game. Thinking about a hazard, leads to going into the hazard. Then try hitting a purposeful fade, leads to a pull or straight. This game combines physics, geometry, zen yoga, concentration, etc, etc. No one has a exact handle on this game, if they did, they would shoot 18, to coin a phrase.

 

 

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No matter your skill level.What makes this game so difficult?

you are hitting a little hard spinny ball with a shard of metal in a stick. That sounds hard to me.

Sometimes it can be easy though. Shot a 77 today. Personal course record for me.

 

 

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... As Rosanna Dana said "It's always somethin." I was 2 under thru 12 yesterday and pushed my tee shot into the wind and wound up under some palm fronds. Limited backswing but able to choke down to the metal and hit a surprising good shot back in the fairway... but I hit it too well and it ended up right behind a tree on the other side of the fairway. Turned an 8 iron backwards and left handed it into the fairway where it ended up in the front of a very deep divot. Tried to hit down hard with a DI but it still squirted left and one guess where it ended up? Yea, behind another tree. Another backwards left handed 8 iron to some pine straw and had to keep my next shot under some limbs. Came up a hair short of the green, hit an excellent chip that lipped out leaving me a tap in for an 8, with no penalty strokes! From 2 under to 1 over in one hole and I felt like I only hit one marginal shot, off the tee, and it wasn't that bad. This game can be sooooo hard. 

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For me the day to day peaks and valleys are the hardest to deal with mentally. One day you have good control of the ball and the next day it can go anywhere. It seems like improvement should be more linear but not for this game!

 

 

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For me the day to day peaks and valleys are the hardest to deal with mentally. One day you have good control of the ball and the next day it can go anywhere. It seems like improvement should be more linear but not for this game!

 

 

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There's nothing linear about my game. Not my ball flight, my scores or anything. But I keep coming back.

 

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3 Hybrid (19*) - :taylormade-small: RBZ
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58* - :cleveland-small: CBX Full Face 2
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