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By Kambeau
Before I dive into my review, here is a background as to what made me switch putters :
In early August I started with an awesome putting coach. Before I started working with him I was missing everything and recently came off a tournament with two 4 putts in the round. As I’m beginning to enjoy and play tournament golf making putts was about to become really important to me. I used a Taylormade Spider Tour Red for about 9 months, but the look killed me. found it so irritatingly huge and wanted something a little slimmer. I then decided to switch to an OdysseyWorks #7 for 6 months. Was overall positive about it, but as my stroke got sloppy my confidence decreased and I pulled putts endlessly. I went into my first putting session with my Odyssey. By the end of it my stroke and set up were pretty pure. But I was still pulling putts. I aimed down my line and my coach looked from behind me, laughed and said “where are you aimed?” And I said “dead straight!” And he goes “nope your way open.” I set up again and wham. Same thing. We then found out that I am left eye right hand dominant or “Cross Dominant.” The double bend shaft style was causing me to aim left, when my eyes thought I was straight. Then he broke the news to me ... “yeah, uh, you need a new putter.” He then slapped a center shafted putter in my hands and I was dead on. The search for a new flatstick began.
My review of the Bettinardi Studio Stock #28 :
I came away from my fitting with a Bettinardi Studio Stock 28 CS Slotback. My heart had wanted a Scotty Cameron for so long, I bought the marketing hype, and wanted to have one as a golf status symbol. But the results were over and over again showing that the Betti was a beast. The milling is masterful, the feel off the face is very very soft which suits my style. The look over the ball is simple and elegant. Plus the center shaft style has helped me greatly with my alignment. It’s similar to an ER2 in that it’s a blade style with some extra meat on the back which I like. It also gives the look of a blade with the forgiveness of a mallet. Overall very happy with this flat stick. Putting is now night and day compared to what it was. I will say, if I have to reach a little bit and find one flaw with it I wasn’t a fan at all of the standard grip, I use a SS Flatso 1.0 so the stock grip wasn’t my taste. But that’s my only gripe. I’ve now been converted to a huge Bettinardi Fan, and don’t see myself changing the flat stick for a long, long time.
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By Maltenator
Introduction
My name is Matt I'm 36 that lives here in Mechanicsville, VA (Richmond Area). I have 2 awesome little daughters who are 8 and 7, and an amazing gorgeous wife who is way too hot for me and out of my league. I'm pretty lucky. I work in IT for the IRS, love all Chicago sports teams Bears, Cubs, Blackhawks, and Bulls. I am obsessed with Disney as is my family, we go once if not twice a year every year. I have been an avid golfer since I was 13. Before I met the best thing ever to come into my life, my wife, golf really saved me when I got out of the Air Force in 2006 and was dealing with PTSD. I got my handicap down to a 5, because I fully immersed myself into it to get away from all my demons, and horrible thoughts in my head. For these reasons, I will never turn my back on the sport as it was there when I needed something that can't be explained the most at that point in my life. Unfortunately due to 4 knee surgeries a meniscus repair, a meniscus removal after tearing it for the 2nd time 4 years to the day after I tore it the first time, a meniscus implant, and a clean out around my ACL, my game has slipped severely over the last 9 years since my original injury in 2010, and only being able to play as much as my knee would let me. My knee is finally back to 100% and can dive back into the sport I love. I am currently a 15 handicap and working my way back down slowly. I never lost my swing, but I need to get back to where I was mentally. All of my extra strokes come from mental errors and minor misses, and getting down on myself because I know I can be as good as I once was if not better. I have gamed Mizuno JPX 800 Pro forged irons the last 6 years since 2013, and have always felt there is no better feeling iron to me than Mizuno's, then I went out on a whim, and decided to overhaul my whole bag from bag all the way down to putter this year. I got fitted for PXG 0211's and from the moment I hit the first ball, I was addicted to them. So without further ado here is the review below.
These are from our Disney trip we just got back home from on Aug 18th. Also, sorry for such large photos (but details right?).
About the club
These are PXG's first cast club. I feel they are PXG's answer to reach the masses, and make an affordable club for all golfers.
According to their website they state "We packed our 0211s with three key GEN2 technologies. First and most important is a hollow body design filled with our proprietary COR2 polymer, the world's thinnest club face (made possible by the COR2) and a 360-degree undercut perimeter channel around the club face that expands the functional size of the face. These three technologies combined result in a club that goes farther, launches higher, feels softer, sounds great, is more forgiving and has a sweet spot the size of Texas."
Looks 10 out of 10
The PXG 0211 irons are a progressive iron set, meaning the amount of offset gradually decreases the shorter the clubs become. For example, the 4-iron has slightly more offset than the 5, and so on through the wedges.
Progressive sets offer more forgiveness in the long irons, where it's needed most for all golfers. There isn't much offset needed in the 8-iron up due to golfers being more proficient with them.
In the long irons, the 0211 have a very good offset and a little noticeable sole sticking out past the top line. When you get to the scoring irons, the 0211 there is less offset and less sole sticking out.
I would put these into the middle of a players and game improvement iron. They have somewhat of a slim top line, a decently wide sole, and the blades are longer than most players irons, and Bob Parsons wasn't lying when he said they have a sweet spot the size of Texas.
They are absolutely gorgeous at address.
Sorry these are the only photos I have at address and it's the PW. But aren't the center strike ball marks BEAUTIFUL?
Sound & Feel 10 out of 10
These feel absolutely smoother than any golf club I have ever hit. Forged or cast, this is due to hollow body design with their proprietary COR2 polymer. When hit they leave no doubt that the ball is going for a long ride. They are very very soft with a spring like sensation off center faced strikes. It has a very nice strong and clean mid pitch at impact, that gives immediate feedback for mishits, which are hard to do with their sweet spot.
Performance 10 out of 10
Having been fitted by a PXG fitter I had high expectations for what theses should produce, these expectations were met and surpassed in all categories.
Borrowed this from another site so I'm quoting "The 0211 features the same face material (HT1770 maraging steel) as the 0311 GEN2, which works in conjunction with PXG’s more responsive second generation COR2 polymer material – the goo filling that allows for the thinnest iron face on the market – to preserve ball speed across the whole of the face.
Like the 0311 GEN2, it offers an internal face perimeter cut-out. It’s a design which leverages an undercut cavity and moves the weld lines between the two pieces to the outer perimeter of the club (as opposed to on the face itself). It’s a forgiveness-boosting feature that makes for an effectively larger face without increasing the size of the clubhead."
The forgiveness and the wider soles is where the clubs really shine and help make thin misses playable and not penalize the player as bad as some other irons would.
I have found the spin in the short to mid irons to be sufficient enough to hold greens, and not send the ball rolling off once they land, and the wedges paired with a good quality ball makes it easy to zip the ball back something I haven't been able to do in a long time.
Where the progressive design helps me most is in the 5 iron, with the extra offset, I can launch the ball easier than my old 5 iron and not worry about it going anywhere but straight.
I have gained 10-12 yards of carry over my old Mizuno's. This could be impart to being slightly stronger lofted clubs as well, but I feel it has more to do with newer technology and a faster face. PXG also claims these have "the thinnest face in golf" and I haven't seen any other company argue this.
Upgrades 5 out of 10
I give the upgrades a 5 because they don't offer many shaft options comparatively to competitors (they have the same number of brands but the shaft models are more limited than other brands), and the upgrade price on shafts is on par with other manufacturers. I do feel the shaft offerings fit a large variety of golfers, and my fitter had me dialed into my shaft within about 20 minutes, then went through every club to ensure that it would suit me through every iron.
The biggest drop in score here is there are no additional grips that can be upgraded to. The only option is the Lamkin Z5 which I gave a try, and hated after 1 round due to not being tacky and soft enough but this is purely subjective on how you like your grips. I quickly replaced them with my preferred Winn Dri-Tacs.
Quite shocking since PXG is known to be all custom built, the 0211s have what amounts to a true stock shaft offering for the first time. True Temper’s new Elevate is the steel offering. The standard Elevate is a 95g offering (available in R and S flex), and the Elevate Tour 115g (available in S and X flexes). I was fitted with the Elevate Tour through all my irons.
Both Elevate shafts feature VSS (Vibration Suppression System) technology. A fresh take on the Sensicore principle, VSS reduces unwanted vibrations by 71% in the standard Elevate, while VSS PRO reduces unwanted vibrations by 56% in the Elevate Tour.
The graphite offering is the just-released MMT from Mitsubishi.
Fitters and buyers will still have access to PXG’s full shaft matrix, but there is a per club upcharge of $25 (both steel and graphite) to move out of the stock offerings.
Stock Grips
Miscellaneous 10 out of 10
First and foremost the customer service is OUTSTANDING, they keep you informed through the whole process all you have to do is call and ask. You can call 844-PLAY-PXG and they will set you up with a fitter at no expense to you. They sent my fitter from 2 hours away and spent 3 hours with me. There was absolutely no pressure from his end either for me to make a purchase.
They have a 30 day playability guarantee and a 1 year manufacturer's warranty on defects.
Also, the boxes these come in are the nicest, sturdiest, best looking boxes I have ever seen golf clubs come in.
Sorry the photo isn't the best, I was excited to get the boxes open and check the clubs out so I just snapped a quick photo.
Price 7/10 out of 10
My reasoning for the 7/10 out of 10 is if you're an Active duty member, Veteran, or First Responder and can be verified through ID.ME on their website the price is 10/10, you can snag these for the same price if not less than any other major brand out there. I paid $105 an iron for mine, but they have raised the price to $125 an iron for steel or graphite. Also, if you buy six of them you receive a free Gen 1 driver of your choice, and are offered a Gen 1 putter of your choice for $95, which I took advantage of both offerings opting for the 0811XF and Mustang putter.
If you do not fall into these categories they will run you $195 an iron for steel offering, and $210 for graphite and this is the reasoning for a 7/10.
Shipping costs $30 for a single iron, $60 for irons and woods , and $100 for a whole set. Also, it is a direct signature required VIA FedEx this guarantees they hit your hands and not stolen off your porch. If you're lucky enough to live in the area, you can also pick them up from their headquarters for free.
Specs
Conclusion and Overall 10 out of 10
I give the clubs a 10 out of 10 overall because they are absolutely one of the best clubs I have ever gamed, demoed, swung. Now I know this is very subjective as well, and what works for me won't work for the masses. I would not think twice if asked if I recommend these clubs, because I would a million times over. PXG’s goal with the 0211 irons was to bring the performance and feel of their 0311 irons to golfers at a lower price. They blew this goal out of the water.
The progressive set is designed extremely well to fit the vast majority of golfers, although it doesn't offer the flexibility of the different 0311 models. If price has been scaring you away from PXG irons, call and get fitted because these are budget friendly comparative to their other models, and even more so for military, veterans and first responders.
Please let me know what you think of my first review, and it's okay to be brutally critical I can handle it I'm a big boy.
Thanks for reading,
Matt
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By cynogriffin
This is a thread for those who are interested in reading or sharing golf ball comparisons!
Personally, I am in the stage of personal ball testing to try to find my next gamer for the next season or two. As such, I have been and am in the process of testing a variety of premium golf balls to see which fits my game and personal preferences. My posts in this site will be coming from off my new website (linked here for those who might want to check it out: https://griffinc6.wixsite.com/golfreviews) and will be in the form of a head to head matchup between two of the balls I am considering. During my tests, I will be taking two different models to the course and playing 9 holes with each in the same round, same day, and same conditions. In my posts, there won't be much in the way of technical data other than distance (measured via Shot Scope) but will rather be how I experienced the balls in terms of distance, spin, flight characteristics, performance and fell around the green, putting, quality, durability, and consistency. Once again, for my posts here, these are by no means a scientific test, but rather what I prefer, what I see, and how the balls perform for me. Therefore whatever performs for me might not translate to your game or your experiences with these products. I also invite everyone to post your own comparisons, head-to-heads, and reviews here as well!
Now that that is out of the way, let the discussion begin!
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By ChasingScratch
Ping Sigma 2 Tyne 4 – Review
A little background
Let’s just start with this: I am not a stellar putter. I’m not even an average putter. I’ve been known to be the ‘take a 6 footer for birdie and turn it into a 7 footer for par’ kind of putter. I’d like to think part of it is due to the wide variation in greens I get to play on (anything from Plinko on the Price is Right to lightning fast U.S. Open greens), but the reality is I just haven’t been that good. I’m a dad with limited income to spend on golf and little practice time.
I started this journey to become a Scratch golfer about two years ago. Since then, I won a free full bag fitting through Club Champion and had a blast doing it. My favorite part of the whole experience was the SAM PuttLab fitting. According to the PuttLab, I’m a consistent slight puller of the putter. My wonderful human of a fitter recommended mallet style with some toe hang. He laid out a bunch of putters that fit this mold and I immediately started arching the putter rather than pulling it. I had never really seen that arch path before and I thought I was going to push every putt 3 feet right of the hole. Needless to say, I made 25 straight 8 foot putts before we re-tested with my favorite putter of the bunch (the Ping Sigma 2 Tyne 4, which also happened to be the cheapest, go figure).
The thing that was instantly attractive about this putter was the fact that it could be adjusted for length. I’m 5’8”, take an athletic posture with my putter, and have long arms. Long story short, I need a short putter, but everything you can buy off the rack comes between 33-35” (or so it seems). We cranked it down to 32.5” and bent the loft to 1 degree. Oh……….my…………GAWD!!! I’m in love, I’m in love, and I don’t care who knows it!!!
Eye Candy (aka Looks)
First off the looks. This think is a beauty!
I love the tynes off the back, makes me think of a fighter jet’s wings. Who doesn’t love fighter jets?!? As an added bonus, they are very useful when picking the ball up after you just lagged that 40 footer to inside of 1 foot!
Grip
The stock pistol grip is phenomenal as well. It really helps me to get my thumbs on top of the grip and parallel to each other.
Insert:
People seem to either love or hate insert putters. I get it, there is soft and then there is too soft. Not many people want to feel like they are hitting the golf ball with a marshmallow attached to a shaft. The dual insert on the Ping Sigma 2 putter line is perfect for me. Soft enough to feel good at impact, but not soft enough to make you question if you hit it hard enough.
Overall:
I absolutely enjoy putting practice now! Get this, you ready for it? I’ve taken nothing but my putter to the golf course and spent over 1hr putting with my kids!?! Crazy right? Who does that??? Not a single driver, iron, or wedge hit. Pure putting. That’s how much I love this putter and how much confidence it gives me.
I’ve only had two rounds with it, but I’ve had 30 and 31 putts with it so far. Both of those rounds had at least 3 putts that either lipped out or stopped within 1” of the hole. Only one 3-putt (and that was on a 60 foot putt, all of my playing partners 3-putted that horrible green lol). From 5-8 feet, I feel like it is going in all the time.
Had I the foresight to know that I would be joining MGS, I would have taken stats with my previous putters (yeah, I’m the guy who had like 7 putters all on the bench ready to get in the game whenever the starter started 3-putting) and run an ANOVA on putting metrics to see if this new putter is significantly better or if it is all in my head. I have since sold those putters and am on the road to a single putter relationship. You have to give this putter a try if you like the looks of a mallet style fang putter. It also scored well this year and the previous model as well last year in the MSG putter tests.
Give this thing a look!!!! I think I’m going to go roll some putts on my carpet!!!
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By Green Sheep Productions
Hey all,
Anyone bought one of Vice's stand bags? The barrel of my bag is about to die, have been eyeing these off... But I hate buying something I haven't seen in the flesh (?) before. My favourite bag was from a gone bust company called Lind Golf, but can't find a bag with as many features.
Unfortunately not heaps of pictures of the Vice bag that aren't dolled up and taken from a romantic angle.
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