cksurfdude Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Interesting review - thx for all the work and the write-up! Curious - are you going to try the Flat Cat on the Cleveland? Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 Interesting review - thx for all the work and the write-up! Curious - are you going to try the Flat Cat on the Cleveland? This is a painful question for me, because it exposes something irrational about my approach to golf equipment. It would totally make sense to put a grip that I like on a putter that I like. Yep, that definitely makes sense. But here's the thing: the Cleveland looks really classy and understated. And the Flat Cat is loud and ugly. And I just can't do it. It was easy to do on the MLA, because the Flat Cat and the MLA share the same offensive color scheme. Is anyone else here sympathetic to my plight? Do your heads, shafts, and grips have to complement each other in any way? Or is everyone here just driven by the performance? Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Is anyone else here sympathetic to my plight? Do your heads, shafts, and grips have to complement each other in any way? Or is everyone here just driven by the performance? I do have some criteria for how I want things to look from a grip perspective and a few other aspects. The nice thing is that grips are an item that is easy to adjust as long as you don't get into specialty grips like the flatcat. Other than that performance is really the main criteria Although, my biggest pet peeve is peeling shaft labels. It really bugs me that they are peeling off my current shafts. I know I should just remove them but that isn't how they are supposed to be. GolfSpy MPR 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 ....... Although, my biggest pet peeve is peeling shaft labels. It really bugs me that they are peeling off my current shafts. I know I should just remove them but that isn't how they are supposed to be. You can get those replaced. Mine were withering away on my KBS shafts so I emailed customer support and they sent me new stickers free of charge. Easy peasy and your shafts will look fresh again. Sorry for taking the thread sideways. I'll pay my tax by responding in line. ....... It was easy to do on the MLA, because the Flat Cat and the MLA share the same offensive color scheme. Is anyone else here sympathetic to my plight? Do your heads, shafts, and grips have to complement each other in any way? Or is everyone here just driven by the performance? That statement actually made me laugh at my desk. I totally agree that the look of the grip should match the putter. Additionally, just because you like the Flat Cat the most, that doesn't necessarily mean it'll be a good fit for the Cleveland. The putter/grip relationship is intimate and not all pairings will result in a happy marriage. Case and point: I LOVE the SS Slim 3.0 on my STX SS6 but hated it on the Odyssey Fang. The GP SNSR feels awesome on the Fang but wouldn't work for the MLA Tour Classic. The Forward grip fits the MLA well but I'm not sure I'd like it on the others. So for all of that, I say keep Cleveland how you like it. It's still the best in your stable after all. Sent from carrier pigeon using MyGolfSpy cnosil, tommc23 and GolfSpy MPR 3 Quote In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 That statement actually made me laugh at my desk. I totally agree that the look of the grip should match the putter. Additionally, just because you like the Flat Cat the most, that doesn't necessarily mean it'll be a good fit for the Cleveland. The putter/grip relationship is intimate and not all pairings will result in a happy marriage. As much as I wanted to use the grip that came with the Cleveland (a standard blue pistol grip), I've become far too accustomed to the SuperStroke-size grips. The SS Flatso 1.0 that was standard on the Toe Up was really comfortable for me, and the flat seam fits neatly down the lifeline of my left hand. So I get some of the benefits of the idea of the Flat Cat, in a design that complements the look of the classier putter. Or, at least that's what I'm going to keep telling myself. tony@CIC 1 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinE Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Introduction I've done far more lurking than posting on mygolfspy, but I've definitely benefited from the content here. I've especially enjoyed reading the forum member reviews. This post here is really for my own amusement, but my hunch is that there are other equipment junkies here who might enjoy it as well. A bit about me: I'm in my late 30s and have been golfing regularly for the last five years or so. When I was growing up, I played a couple times a summer with my dad and always enjoyed the game. But I got bit hard by golf after moving here to Michigan's Upper Peninsula (where I pastor a Baptist church). I took up the game to spend some time with one of the guys in my church, but quickly became quite drawn by golf myself. Several elements combine for me to make this game so addicting. The first, obviously, is the challenge. But it isn't just the challenge: it's that, in principle, it seems like it should be something a person could figure out. I can't hit a slider or dunk a ball, but those are physical limitations. When a ball is sitting on a tee, and I still can't hit it straight—well, that just means I have a puzzle that needs to be solved. Combine that with good company and conversation, along with ample opportunities to tinker, not only with clubs, but with a host of little gadgets (swing monitors, training aids, etc.), I was pretty much hooked. As it stands, I've gotten myself down to being an entirely adequate mediocre golfer. Game Golf (one of my gadgets!) tells me I'm roughly a 15-handicap. I'm very short off the tee, strike my irons pretty well (for my handicap), I've had a miserable (but improving) short game, and I've learned to putt pretty solidly. One new reason for me to love the game: my four-year-old boy has really taken to it as well. He started swinging plastic clubs at age one, and his enthusiasm for the game keeps growing. He and I normally play a round a week (he has the attention span to even go 18). He started the season playing from the 100-yard markers. I told him that if he could shoot a 45 from there, we'd back up to the 150s. He's done that, and before the snow fell (a hazard of being a golfer in the UP), he'd shot a 47 from the 150s. Here's a couple of videos of his swing: The Green Because of the short golfing season here, indoor practice is a must. I've been a regular carpet-putter for some time, but had the desire to build a green with real holes. I ended up buying two of these 3x11 putting carpets (https://www.amazon.com/Putt-Bout-Putting-11-Feet-Green/dp/B00HXAJ4VQ) and a few packages of those interlocking foam mats. When my dad was here this past weekend, the building began. Side note: when my dad gets involved, some degree of over-engineering is bound to result. That said, this green is now about a million times better than if I had built it myself. The whole thing is built out of 2x4s, with cross beams every 15" or so. Spaced every couple of feet under the frame are lag bolts. These function as adjustable feet, which allowed us to get the thing properly set on the uneven basement floor. One side of the green has been built with a slight break; the other is as flat as we could get it. Here are some pictures: 20171115_170033.jpg 20171116_210647.jpg 20171116_210724.jpg The Putters Over these years, I've collected a variety of putters. I've sold some, but my current collection contains eight. For the most part, this collection skews toward the slightly-off-the-beaten-path, clearance rack side of things. I'm not the target audience for retail prices. 20171116_205751.jpg 20171116_205856_Burst01.jpg From left to right: Nike Method Converge B1-01 CounterFlex Counterbalance, 38" Odyssey Toe Up #1, 35" Yes! Rachel, 35" Adams A7 Select 60, 35", with a Golf Pride Tour SNSR 104 Odyssey #7 Tank Versa, 38" Cleveland 2135 Satin Elevado, 35", with a Flatso 1.0 (with counterweight) MLA Pro XDream, 34" (thanks for the discount, MGS!) STX ProFit 6, cut down to about 34" from an original belly putter, with a heavy clevis pin as a counterweight and a SuperStroke 3.0 grip (my first attempt at customizing a putter) Given my stroke and comfort (and their tech!), my expectation is that the Cleveland and MLA putters should be the favorites to come out on top of this contest. The Shootout Let me head this off: yep, it would be good to get fitted for a putter. But this is fun. My intention, over the next couple of weeks, is to pit these putters against each other in a couple of contests to see which emerges as the best for my game. On the sloped side of the green, there are dots roughly every foot. On this side, the contest is simple: ten putts. Start with the four-footer that breaks left, then the four-footer that breaks right. The five, then six, seven, and eight. Here, I'm simply recording how many out of ten are made with each putter. My plan is to have each putter do this four times. On the flat side of the green, I've set marks for a game I picked up from this little book: https://www.amazon.com/Little-Book-Indoor-Golf-Games-ebook/dp/B0042JU7IU The game is putting soccer. Five balls are arranged at either end of the green, guarding the hole. The putters alternate shots, each trying to sink all five balls before the other. The game puts a premium on placing balls in specific spots, setting up the next shot. Here, I've put together a round-robin format in which each putter has to go head-to-head with all of the other putters. If there's any interest in this thread, I'll post on occasion with the results that I'm getting. If you're still reading this: thanks Great post. I have to upgrade from a carpet putter !!!!!!! tony@CIC 1 Quote Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Driver JGR 9.5 R Flex Adila 65 3 Wood XR RFlex Fujikura Evolution 5 Wood XR R Flex Project X 5.5 7Wood Speedline LP R Flex Matix HD Radix 5.1 Irons 4 thru A Wedge J-15 CB R Flex NS Pro Wedges 56 CG 15 XE! 65 Putter ER 5 Hatchback Ball NXT Tour S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 It's time for the Putter Shootout 2.0! This thread is now almost one year old, and it represents my initial foray into this forum (other than applying for [ahem] free stuff). The reception it received let me know right away that I had found something special in this forum, and it's been a joy to be a regular around here for a year now. I thought I'd resurrect this thread to post the second edition of what I suspect will be an annual tradition: pitting my putters against each other in a winter basement deathmatch to determine which one gets to be in the bag when the snow melts in six months! (So much excitement and depression in a single sentence.) This year, I've pruned the field and changed the contests. First, the putters: Cleveland TFI2135 Satin Elevado with P2 Aware Evnroll ER6 Black with P2 Aware Tour (grip currently in the mail) MLA XDream Pro with Flat Cat Standard Odyssey Toe Up #1 with P2 Classic The constant among the contestants are grips with flat sides. For my part, I have found these kinds of grips helpful; to have immediate knowledge in my hands as to the orientation of the putter face is a good thing. As for the tests, I'm changing things up a bit from last year. The first is basic: a set of 10 straight putts, about 8" in distance. The second is a sequence of 18 putts from defined spots on my putting green; all of these break in various directions. The third is a game called Killer: start with a 1" putt, if you make it, back up to 2", and so on. If you miss, that costs one of your three lives and you retry the putt. Once the three lives are gone, you get credit for the furthest putt you made. On my green, my max distance is 8". I'll alternate directions on this drill, so that I have left and right breaking versions. My scoring spreadsheet is found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16ih6Aj8P2Y6Nh0iymy2zbQ7P9Sb_amOD-q43cMbjZmI/edit?usp=sharing Scoring is as follows: in each category, the top performer gets a 100%, and each other putter gets a percentage determined by its makes divided by the top performer's makes. The percentages in each category are averaged together for a final score. Like last year, I'll weigh in periodically with updates. If anyone has any suggestions for improving the Shootout, now's the time to hear it! tommc23, cksurfdude, MattF and 1 other 4 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Please direct Kirke over to my "Bunker Shots" thread; could use some tips. GolfSpy MPR 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 Playing with a gadget, looking for feedback. I've got a camera that takes 360° photos and video. Trying to figure out how to share the photos here. Here's a Facebook link to a photo of my putting area: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157353000636393&id=586016392&sfnsn=cl I'm interested to know if this works for anyone. GB13 and STUDque 1 1 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romeopapazulu Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I got the 360 photo. Let me know when the next round of putt-off happens so I can route for the ElevadoSent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy GolfSpy MPR and cnosil 2 Quote G400 LST 8.5 Ping Tour 65 Stiff Adams XTD Ti 18 deg 3Hy Ben Hogan PTx 22-46 Ben Hogan TK15 50, 54, 58 deg wedges Futura 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just added this to my basement green. Needed the heat, and it adds some atmosphere :-) romeopapazulu, DannyDips, cnosil and 1 other 4 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 I'm bumping this so I can find it again later. My oldest daughter is renting an apartment at college now and "borrowed" my couch and a bed from my man cave. The big empty space is calling for a putting green like this. @GolfSpy MPR, How has the turf held up? Also, I could have sworn you had a construction thread for the green, but I can't find it. Was that not you? GolfSpy MPR 1 Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just added this to my basement green. Needed the heat, and it adds some atmosphere :-)Is your one day of summer in Minnesota over already Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, MaxEntropy said: I'm bumping this so I can find it again later. My oldest daughter is renting an apartment at college now and "borrowed" my couch and a bed from my man cave. The big empty space is calling for a putting green like this. @GolfSpy MPR, How has the turf held up? Also, I could have sworn you had a construction thread for the green, but I can't find it. Was that not you? The construction info is at the beginning of this thread. I posted an update on the surface in this thread. MaxEntropy 1 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 Here's one more construction picture that I'm not sure if I posted elsewhere in this thread. golfertrb and MaxEntropy 2 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, GolfSpy MPR said: The construction info is at the beginning of this thread. I posted an update on the surface in this thread. That's the thread I was looking for. Thanks! GolfSpy MPR 1 Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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