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If you are considering a utility iron make sure you give the Srixon's a try!

Congratulations! That's good news. And since no one commented on the Ping crossover I can say that it's worth a look too. I have the G 4 crossover and love it. It's at 21* and they also have a 3 and 5 I believe. It already has a graphite shaft as well. I can get 205 total off the tee with one but more importantly it goes straight and it's easy to control. I've hit a low punch out with it just fine. And it flies off the tee.

Krank Formula X Veylix Alpina 573 45" 9*

:755178188_TourEdge:CBX 3 Wood Matrix HD Radix S VIII 43" 15*

Krank Formula X 5 Wood Matrix HD Radix S VIII 42" 18*

Wishon Golf 775HS 3H Matrix Ozik Altus Hybrid X-Flex  39.75" 21*

Wishon Golf 585HI 3DI  same shaft as irons 38.25" 21*

Wishon Golf 575 MMC Forged 5-A N.S.Pro Modus 3 Tour 120X

Wishon Golf Micro-Groove HM S, L same shaft as irons 

:EVNROLL: ER7B Gravity Grip 35"

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Congratulations! That's good news. And since no one commented on the Ping crossover I can say that it's worth a look too. I have the G 4 crossover and love it. It's at 21* and they also have a 3 and 5 I believe. It already has a graphite shaft as well. I can get 205 total off the tee with one but more importantly it goes straight and it's easy to control. I've hit a low punch out with it just fine. And it flies off the tee.

Slap I had commented on my Ping G200 crossover in a different post - I love the club particularly of the tee.

 

 

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If you're still looking, check out the Cobra F7 hybrid, the rails are amazing. If you get the 3/4 or 4/5, plenty of loft options to play with.

 

 

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What's in my  :cleveland-small: bag:

Driver :  :cobra-small: F9 10.5, Fujikura Speeder 757 TR 

Fairway  :cobra-small: F9 15.5° Aldila Rogue White 80X

Hybrid:  :cobra-small: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+

Irons:   :srixon-small: z585 4i - 6i,  z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX  50.11, 55.11, 60.10  TT DG S400 Black

Putter:  post-53756-150768041262.jpg Honey Badger 34" 

Ball:  :srixon-small: Q-Star Tour

 

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I replaced my 4i with another 4i.

I pulled my Wishon 771 4i a couple of years back and in it's place I bagged and older TM Burner 2.0 4i. Although the Wishon 4i was fit to me I never really played it all that well. It's not very forgiving. Small head-thin sole, etc. The Burners are more of a Game Improving type of irons. Larger heads, wider soles, more offset, etc. It was a good move on my part.

As for Hybrids... I've never played them very well either and I have 4 of them laying around. Including a custom fit one.

My Sun Mountain bag currently includes:   TWGTLogo2.png.06c802075f4d211691d88895b3f34b75.png 771CSI 5i - PW and TWGTLogo2.png.06c802075f4d211691d88895b3f34b75.png PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges

                                                                               :755178188_TourEdge: EXS 10.5*, TWGTLogo2.png.06c802075f4d211691d88895b3f34b75.png 929-HS FW4 16.5* 

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I really like the idea of blending in powerful yet forgiving irons (P790, PXG, Forged Tec Black, Rogue, ect...) at the top of a set to close the gap with a hybrid without sacrificing a wedge

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Driver:  :taylormade-small: Stealth Plus+ (7.25*) - Fujikura Ventus Black 6X Tipped 1" 

3 Wood: :taylormade-small: Stealth Plus+ (14.25*) - Fujikura Ventus Blue 7x Tipped 1"

Driving Iron: :taylormade-small: P790 UDI 2 iron - HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 100 6.5

4 Iron: :taylormade-small: P790 - KBS C-Taper 130 X

Irons (5-7) :taylormade-small: P7MC - KBS C-Taper 130 X

Irons (8-P) :taylormade-small: P7MB - KBS C-Taper 130 X

Wedges: :taylormade-small: MG3 Black 50.09 / 55.11 - KBS TOUR FLT 130 X

60* Wedge: :taylormade-small: High Toe Raw - KBS Tour 130 X

Putter: 5WoCG8Y.jpg Custom Black ER2 or Custom Black :taylormade-small: Del Monte

Bag:  :taylormade-small: FlexTech Stand Bag

Glove:  :taylormade-small: Tour Preferred Glove

Ball: :taylormade-small: TP5X #11

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Clubs will not correct swing flaws. Get your swing right first and then buy clubs.

How dare you bring these “swing correction” ideas into a golf equipment discussion?????? 🧐

 

 

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What's in my  :cleveland-small: bag:

Driver :  :cobra-small: F9 10.5, Fujikura Speeder 757 TR 

Fairway  :cobra-small: F9 15.5° Aldila Rogue White 80X

Hybrid:  :cobra-small: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+

Irons:   :srixon-small: z585 4i - 6i,  z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX  50.11, 55.11, 60.10  TT DG S400 Black

Putter:  post-53756-150768041262.jpg Honey Badger 34" 

Ball:  :srixon-small: Q-Star Tour

 

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I grabbed a Callaway Apex 4 Hybrid and reshafted it with a KBS steel hybrid shaft, shortened a half inch. It's been so good!! Perfect long iron replacement. So good, that I dropped the 5 iron for an Apex 5H!

 

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I am about to replace my #3 hybrid with a #3 Tour Edge HL3 Ironwood. If that proves to be successful I may also get the #4.

 

 

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PXG 0211 12° driver w/Project X Cypher R flex  shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 16° 4 wood w/Kuro Kage Black 60g shaft

post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC HyWay 21° utilitywood w/Maltby MPF shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 22° 4 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft

post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 25° 5 hybrid w/Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue shaft

Lazrus 27° 6 hybrid w/Lazrus  graphite shaft
PXG 0211DC irons 7-PW w/Project X Cypher graphite shafts

:cleveland-small: CBX2 50° wedge

post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg M-Series+ 56° wedge w/UST Recoil 660 graphite shaft
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Personally, I love my 4i - it's one of the most reliable clubs in my bag currently (along with 3 wood, gap wedge and putter).

 

My dad, on the other hand, was struggling to hit his long irons (3-5) for a while (he has a set of Adams CMBs). A year ago, he got my old Callaway X2 Hot 3 hybrid (I replaced it with an Apex hybrid, but went back to a 3 iron when I got the i200s) and he loved it so much that he bought an X2 Hot 4 hybrid (in a different shaft flex). Since then, the 2 hybrids have been his best friends out on the course, as he's able to hit the 3 hybrid almost as far as he hits 3 wood!

 

Therefore, replacing a long iron in your bag depends on what you think will be the best fit - be it a 4 iron, utility iron, hybrid or a fairway wood (a part of me still wants a 5 wood in the bag, but that's a story for later!).

Driver: Cobra F9 Speedback (9.0) with Fujikura Atmos 7X (Avalanche White) 

3 Wood: Callaway Epic Sub-Zero (15 degrees) in Rogue Max 75g stiff shaft

Hybrid: Callaway Apex 20 degree with Kurokage 80g Stiff Shaft

Irons: Wilson Staff CB 4-PW in KBS 120 Stiff shafts

Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 - 50

              Callaway MD4 - 56 & 60 degrees

Putter: Taylormade TP Collection Soto

Golf Ball: Titliest Pro V1 and Srixon Z-Star 

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I havent tried it yet but the cobra adjustable driving iron looks interesting since you can play with the loft to get the perfect gapping. It comes in black now too which looks pretty nice. 

 

 

... I have never hit better long irons than the P790's. My 4 iron is my go to iron, something I have never said about any others. I would be tempted to get the P790 3 iron but the King Utility is just so good there is no reason to change. Especially off the tee where I use it quite a bit but also reached two par 5's in two today with the Utility. One from the fairway and the other from a waste area. I rarely adjust the loft but in very windy conditions I have dialed it down from it's 18.5* normal setting. I have owned and played Wilson FG Tour Utility, Srixon U45, TM UDi, Exotics CB Pro, Mizuno Fli Hi and for me, the King Utility is the best of the bunch. 

Driver:     :taylormade-small:  Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R
Fairway:  :cobra-small: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:  :ping-small:      430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy 
                  :taylormade-small:  DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r 
Irons:       :titleist-small:         '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:  :taylormade-small: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:     :cobra-small:  Sport-60 33" 
Ball:           Maxfli     Maxfli Tour

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... I have never hit better long irons than the P790's. My 4 iron is my go to iron, something I have never said about any others. I would be tempted to get the P790 3 iron but the King Utility is just so good there is no reason to change. Especially off the tee where I use it quite a bit but also reached two par 5's in two today with the Utility. One from the fairway and the other from a waste area. I rarely adjust the loft but in very windy conditions I have dialed it down from it's 18.5* normal setting. I have owned and played Wilson FG Tour Utility, Srixon U45, TM UDi, Exotics CB Pro, Mizuno Fli Hi and for me, the King Utility is the best of the bunch.

How do you compare the feel of the Cobra Utility to the Srixon U45. I love the super smooth forged feel of the Srixon. Actually just picked up a 20* head as well to complement my 23*.

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:cobra-small:               F6 Baffler (16*)                      Matrix Red Tie 65Q4

:titelist-small:                        816 H1 Hybrid (21*,23*)        Diamana S+ Blue 82 HY

:srixon-small:                        Z765 (5-PW) +2*                    Aerotech Steelfiber i110cw

:titelist-small:                        Vokey SM5 50.08F 54.10M   Aerotech Steelfiber i110cw

:callaway-small:                         PM Grind 60*                         Dynamic Gold S400

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How do you compare the feel of the Cobra Utility to the Srixon U45. I love the super smooth forged feel of the Srixon. Actually just picked up a 20* head as well to complement my 23*.

 

 

... In my opinion they are the best feeling of all the DI's I have hit and played. Both are very similar with a hollow forged feel that is really pretty dense feeling and sounding for a thin face. The U45/65 is my second favorite DI.  

Driver:     :taylormade-small:  Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R
Fairway:  :cobra-small: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:  :ping-small:      430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy 
                  :taylormade-small:  DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r 
Irons:       :titleist-small:         '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:  :taylormade-small: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:     :cobra-small:  Sport-60 33" 
Ball:           Maxfli     Maxfli Tour

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I've put the g400 3 crossover in my bag to replace my hybrid recently. I'll tell you that for my swing it's much easier to hit and have more consistent strikes. I have a more aggressive angle of attack whereas I find hybrids are better for someone that can sweep the ball off of the ground... And that is not me.

 

Great feel and gets the ball up in the air easily. Does add a little spin, but that's fine by me. I just need it to fly the same distance every time and be in play.

 

 

 

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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 (8*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff

Fairway:   :ping-small: G400 (14.5*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff

Irons: :ping-small: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft

            :titelist-small: AP3 (4/5) and AP2 (6-PW) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts

Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts

Putter:  :cameron-small: Pro Platinum Newport 2 Midslant

Handicap: 3

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Just replaced My MP-18 SC 4-iron with an MMC Fli-Hi Utility 4 iron, much easier to hit......  Like the higher ball flight, go to club for narrow par-4's and punch shots....

Driver:   :taylormade-small: M3 Tensei CK Pro Blue
3-Metal:: :callaway-small: GBB EPIC, FujiKura Pro Green

5-Metal:  :cobra-small: F-7, FujiKura Pro

Irons:   :mizuno-small: MP-18 SC, KBS Tour 120

Wedges:  :cleveland-small:   RTX-3  52 - 56 - 60
Putter:  EVN-Roll ER-5

Ball :  :bridgestone-small: Tour B XS

Range Finder:  Busnnell Tour-X,  Garmin S20 

 

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I vote for the new Rogue X 7 iron. Same loft, more forgiving head

In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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