PMookie Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just saw these on Instagram Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 The “Rogue†iron is a twin to the AP3, I believe... Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 The “Rogue†iron is a twin to the AP3, I believe... Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Design looks similar, but in terms of size it looks much closer to the ap1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaskanski Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 As far as aesthetics go, they're certainly not the ugliest clubs Callaway has ever produced.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I tend not to be to judgey when it comes to looks, and maybe they look better in person, but the cavities in the irons just seem very "busy" I guess nothing is screaming "man I want to hit those" like it does when I see the P790, JPX 900 or even the Cleveland CBX irons. Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiro Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I've never been a big fan of Callaways aesthetics on their irons. That being said, these are cleaner than some other offerings of the past. Wonder if these “ap3†tweener models are going to be a thing this year with the OEMs. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Launcher HB Driver 10.5* | Launcher HB 5W | Launcher HB 3H and 4H | Launcher CBX Irons 5-PW | CBX Wedges 50*, 54*, 58* | TFI 2135 Cero Putter | Q Star Balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I was thinking they look like most cavity back irons all of which work for me. I've never met a Callaway Driver that I could hit so I have no interest there. I have gamed their fairway woods and a hybrid but I have a closet full of those types of clubs all of which work fine when I'm swinging well. If I hit my SLDR fairway much farther I wouldn't need a driver. Sadly I'm not as good off the turf as I'd like to be with it so it only goes in the bag on certain courses. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 I tend not to be to judgey when it comes to looks, and maybe they look better in person, but the cavities in the irons just seem very "busy" I guess nothing is screaming "man I want to hit those" like it does when I see the P790, JPX 900 or even the Cleveland CBX irons. Total agreement on the busy cavities! The “pro†looks like it has a piece of plastic or metal that could fall off... Or, doubles as a bottle opener. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 The irons remind me of the old RBZ models which were pretty stout imo. They're definitely on the busy face side however if she dances good enough, there could be a party afterwards. Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 The irons remind me of the TM Burner line. Would agree that they look busy but that doesn't mean they don't look cool either. The driver, in stark contrast, has a much more muted/classy look IMO. I don't mind the way either offering looks on their own but I like it when there's more "consistency" in the appearance of clubs throughout a line. You know, make them look like they belong together. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I suppose they will play just fine, but I prefer simpler, cleaner aesthetics. I know...... if they work, who cares what they look like? ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I can't really say. But my first thought is they look chunky in those two photos. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 I can't really say. But my first thought is they look chunky in those two photos. I agree. Looks like they'd have a decently thick topline. I'm still curious if a new Apex line is coming. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Very similar “bottom†weighting design as in the CF16, with a little more protrusion of the center part in the Rogue Pro... Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I was thinking they look like most cavity back irons all of which work for me. I've never met a Callaway Driver that I could hit so I have no interest there. I have gamed their fairway woods and a hybrid but I have a closet full of those types of clubs all of which work fine when I'm swinging well. If I hit my SLDR fairway much farther I wouldn't need a driver. Sadly I'm not as good off the turf as I'd like to be with it so it only goes in the bag on certain courses. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Agreed 100%. However the goal with this line of clubs and others like it is all about visible technology + marketing story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 You people slay me sometimes, these are no more busy than any of the other similar models from the other manufacterers, wouldn't it make more sense to say you don't like Callaway than to make up crap about their clubs. Look at the AP2 716's that have more crap in the cavity than these do. Hilarious. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Not what I was expecting from this line at all. The "Pro" model looks awfully thick at the bottom for a pro model. The non pro Definitly looks AP3'ish but with too much else going on. Driver is meh based only on that shot. But interested to here the tech behind it. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfinnut Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Very similar to these I would say so more than the AP3s. These had not so thin top lines nor soles for "Pro" irons. Not to point fingers or say 1 copied the other, I don't think Callaway copied Titleist or vice versa. I doubt the tungsten weighting is the same either. Just my .02 Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk WITB: Do I like Titleist or what? Driver: TSR3 9* UST Mamiya Proto LIN-Q Blue Fairways: TSi2 UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 13.5* Driving Iron: U500 17* Blue Ventus HB Velocore Irons: T350 4 & 5, T200 6 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Dart F4 105g Wedges: SM6 48*, SM9 52*, SM8 56* Modus Tour Wedge Putter: Newport 2 w/ Garsen Ultimate grip Ball: *ProV1 Left Dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Well, I love the way the look. But, it would be about 5 years before I could afford them. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGolfore Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Not in the market for irons but will be very interested in that driver. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Callaway Rogue 9* FW: Sub 70 Pro 4 wood Hybrid: Sub 70 949 Hybrid 19* Irons: Sub 70 659 CB 4 - 6 Black 639 MB 7 - PW Wedges: Sub 70 JB - 50* 54* & 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot #2 Ball: Titleist Pro-V1x Handicap index: +3.9 Instagram: joshandersongolf Twitter: @jacustomgolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhartmann34 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Very interesting. Still think the CF 16's are my favorite. Look great and definitely perform. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk Driver: G400 (8*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Fairway: G400 (14.5*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Irons: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft AP3 (4/5) and AP2 (6-PW) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Putter: Pro Platinum Newport 2 Midslant Handicap: 3 Location: Illinois...until i can get my wife to move to a warmer climate Right Handed: Although sometimes I wonder if left handed would suit me better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooremikea Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 The irons just look OK to me. From the looks alone I bet they are high launching and low spinning like the last few GI/SGI irons Callaway have pushed out. More interested in hitting the driver than the irons. Driver - Ping G410 Plus 10.5 - Ping Tour 65 Stiff 4 Wood - Callaway Rogue - Project X Evenflow blue 6.0 Hybrids - Titleist 818 H2 - 3(c-1) and 4(c-4) - Tensei CK Blue 70 stiff Irons - Callaway Apex CF 16 5-AW - True Temper XP 95 Steel Stiff Wedges - Ping Glide 54 SS, 58 TS Putter - Edel e1 Torque balanced Indianapolis 5.5 Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC70 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 CF16's and Rogue Pro's Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Atmos Blue 6S Atmos Red 7S Atmos Blue 8S Apex CF19 4-AW C-Taper Lite S SM7's RAW 50F - 54S - 58M - 62M Nike 006 Paul Casey Proto (Oven) Nike 006 Rory Proto (Oven) Pro V1 / Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Those are the regular CF-16's, it's just another cavity back. I would like to see the difference of the the rogue pro vs. the CF16 forged. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Those are the regular CF-16's, it's just another cavity back. I would like to see the difference of the the rogue pro vs. the CF16 forged.I'm pretty sure there was only one version of the CF16, which were forged. I'm not aware of any mom forged CF16, but I could be mistaken. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I'm pretty sure there was only one version of the CF16, which were forged. I'm not aware of any mom forged CF16, but I could be mistaken. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy It's kind of misleading, they are the Apex Pro 16, it's the same as the cf16 just a smaller head, and thinner top line. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 It's kind of misleading, they are the Apex Pro 16, it's the same as the cf16 just a smaller head, and thinner top line.OK then yeah I'm with you. I just had never heard the pros referrd to as CF16'S. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC70 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 It's kind of misleading, they are the Apex Pro 16, it's the same as the cf16 just a smaller head, and thinner top line. The CF16's are Forged. The whole name is Apex Cup Face 2016. The Apex Pro's are the smaller ones and forged also. Atmos Blue 6S Atmos Red 7S Atmos Blue 8S Apex CF19 4-AW C-Taper Lite S SM7's RAW 50F - 54S - 58M - 62M Nike 006 Paul Casey Proto (Oven) Nike 006 Rory Proto (Oven) Pro V1 / Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC70 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 OK then yeah I'm with you. I just had never heard the pros referrd to as CF16'S. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy There is two sets Apex Pro's and Apex CF16's, both are forged. The Pro's do not have the Cup Face technology. Atmos Blue 6S Atmos Red 7S Atmos Blue 8S Apex CF19 4-AW C-Taper Lite S SM7's RAW 50F - 54S - 58M - 62M Nike 006 Paul Casey Proto (Oven) Nike 006 Rory Proto (Oven) Pro V1 / Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I own the Apex Pro 16s and absolutely love them. It's going to be a long time before I give them up. Unless there is a real tech break through. I think club manufacturers are hurting themselves with how much the pit to market these days. I get you want a new release every year to keep the brand fresh, but club tech doesn't change that much. I would think doing more of a 2 year cycle with 3-4 varieties of clubs on different cycles would be a better approach for the industry. We still get new shiney pops every 6 months or so and they get to keep there brand fresh. Win Win for all. Sean - New Lenox,IL Play RH HDC 7 What's in the Bag: Driver Callaway Great Big Bertha Fairway Nike Vapor Fly Hybrid Nike VR-S Covert 2 Tour Irons/Wedges:Callaway Apex Pro 16 Volkey SM5 50/55/60 degree Putter Benttinardi Studio B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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