sixcat Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I would say that Spieth had an off day putting yesterday, and he is at the bottom of the leaderboard. However, having played Kapalua, that course will embarrass even the best of putters, especially if it's windy. Maybe, I just don't put much stock in these events. I don't think most players are as prepared as they will be in April. Regardless, anytime the wind does a 180 degree flip from anything seen in 8 years, it's gonna be tough, even for Spieth. But has anybody been as consistent on the greens over the past 3 years? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC70 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I'm with RTracymog on this one. I think the ball strikers have a better shot at #1 than the good putters. Out of the top 15, how many of them are "bad" ball strikers? Koepka is the lowest ranked player SG tee to green last year at 58th in the OWGR top 15 and I consider him a very good ball striker. On the other hand, "bad" putters in the OWGR top 15 include(SGputting): Pual Casey(75), DJ(81), Rose(123), Rory(140), Sergio(168), and Hideki(173). Most of the OWGR top 15 range anywhere from 35-55 in SG putting while all are pretty solid ball strikers. In fact the only ones who were in the top 35 in putting were Rickie(2) and Koepka(12). Wow! That's eye opening. I've never looked at it that way. Great research, I'd give you more likes if I could. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Atmos Blue 6S Atmos Red 7S Atmos Blue 8S Apex CF19 4-AW C-Taper Lite S SM7's RAW 50F - 54S - 58M - 62M Nike 006 Paul Casey Proto (Oven) Nike 006 Rory Proto (Oven) Pro V1 / Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Maybe, I just don't put much stock in these events. I don't think most players are as prepared as they will be in April. Regardless, anytime the wind does a 180 degree flip from anything seen in 8 years, it's gonna be tough, even for Spieth. But has anybody been as consistent on the greens over the past 3 years? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I think Day has actually been the most consistent over the past few years, along with Luke Donald. Spieth's putting gets a little overblown because he makes so many 15-30 footers. It makes it seem like he makes "everything." At the same point his ball striking is very underrated. His iron play last season was unreal. Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Wow! That's eye opening. I've never looked at it that way. Great research, I'd give you more likes if I could. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Thanks man! Glad to be of some service! Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 I think Day has actually been the most consistent over the past few years, along with Luke Donald. Spieth's putting gets a little overblown a little because he makes so many 15-30 footers. It makes it seem like he makes "everything." At the same point his ball striking is very underrated. His iron play last season was unreal. A very good friend of mine is going to be on Lukes bag for 2018. So I hope they have a good year!! G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I think Day has actually been the most consistent over the past few years, along with Luke Donald. Spieth's putting gets a little overblown because he makes so many 15-30 footers. It makes it seem like he makes "everything." At the same point his ball striking is very underrated. His iron play last season was unreal. I agree his ball striking is underrated. But if he makes a 15-30 footer per 9 over the course of a four day tournament, he's gaining strokes on the field. Nobody else is even close to that. That's an advantage regardless of who you are. I also think Spieth is remarkable at rising to the occasion. With the exception of the back 9 at the 2016 Masters, he tends to play his best in the biggest spots. That's a hell of an attribute to possess. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0808 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 The kid in me wishes Tiger would go on a tear and win like 5 times to shoot up there but I don't think that would even get him close. I truly believe it is between DJ and JT... Day and Speith will be not be there. My sleeper pick is Tommy Fleetwood guy has such a solid swing In my bag: Driver: Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS 10.5* (set to 9.5) UST Lin-Q Gunmetal 6f5 Wood: Tsi2 15* Project X RDX Black 70 6.5 Hybrids: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX Irons: Cobra King Tour MIM 4-PW Dynamic Gold 120 X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 3 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400 Putter: Nashville Z1C 34" Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I agree his ball striking is underrated. But if he makes a 15-30 footer per 9 over the course of a four day tournament, he's gaining strokes on the field. Nobody else is even close to that. That's an advantage regardless of who you are. I also think Spieth is remarkable at rising to the occasion. With the exception of the back 9 at the 2016 Masters, he tends to play his best in the biggest spots. That's a hell of an attribute to possess. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy No argument here with the clutch gene. Spieth certainly has it. I just feel that most people (not saying you), tend to overrate his putter and underrate the rest of his game. Back to his putting. Yes, he gains strokes on the field with 15-30 footers. But he actually loses strokes to the field inside 10 feet. Spieth's putting inside 10 feet is actually well below average on tour. Which is why his overall strokes gained putting is not as good as people thinks it is. Spieth's strokes gained putting by year: 2017- 42nd (Jday 39th) 2016- 2nd (to JDay) 2015- 9th (Jday 6th) 2014- 20th (Jday 29) 2013- 60th (Jday 30th) Edit: upon looking at stats, its really Luke Donald that is the most consistent. His putting is so stupid good. Starting in 2009 his SG putting has been 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 13th, 7th, 39th, 67th, 3rd and 14th. That is unreal. Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 No argument here with the clutch gene. Spieth certainly has it. I just feel that most people (not saying you), tend to overrate his putter and underrate the rest of his game. Back to his putting. Yes, he gains strokes on the field with 15-30 footers. But he actually loses strokes to the field inside 10 feet. Spieth's putting inside 10 feet is actually well below average on tour. Which is why his overall strokes gained putting is not as good as people thinks it is. Spieth's strokes gained putting by year: 2017- 42nd (Jday 39th) 2016- 2nd (to JDay) 2015- 9th (Jday 6th) 2014- 20th (Jday 29) 2013- 60th (Jday 30th) Edit: upon looking at stats, its really Luke Donald that is the most consistent. His putting is so stupid good. Starting in 2009 his SG putting has been 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 13th, 7th, 39th, 67th, 3rd and 14th. That is unreal. I can't begin to tell you how often I hear guys at my club say something similar to “ if Spieth putted like so and so, he couldn't beat meâ€. The sad fact is, they believe what they're saying. It's remarkable how underrated his overall game is! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Re-evaluated my prediction after this weekend. DJ will be a major champ this year, and hold the #1 spot when it is all said and done. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 Re-evaluated my prediction after this weekend. DJ will be a major champ this year, and hold the #1 spot when it is all said and done. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy As owner of the poll, I'm allowed to change my vote as well...correct? DJ with the "Not so fast boys, I currently hold No. 1 and have no plans on giving it up" type performance yesterday!! G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 As owner of the poll, I'm allowed to change my vote as well...correct? DJ with the "Not so fast boys, I currently hold No. 1 and have no plans on giving it up" type performance yesterday!! Free country as far as I know. Change your mind as much as you'd like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Re-evaluated my prediction after this weekend. DJ will be a major champ this year, and hold the #1 spot when it is all said and done. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I see nothing that would make me want to disagree. He's just so damned good. I won't change my pick but I honestly should. DJ is hard to beat if he is playing well. Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I'm pretty sure DJ will remain #1. But, I'll add I think Ricky will move up in the top 5. Feeling a good year for that guy. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Re-evaluated my prediction after this weekend. DJ will be a major champ this year, and hold the #1 spot when it is all said and done. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I think I'm with you in this. When he's ON his game like this week no one will beat him. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I would say DJ, but JT, Rickie, Jordan, Rory will all be shooting for it as well. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I think he one thing that can really hurt the longer hitters as the year goes along, it affects everyone really, and that is consistency off the tee, when you hit the ball a long way, and your swing is off just a bit, the ball goes off line a lot. It seems that everyone has a lull in the middle of the year, whoever is #1 at the end of the year will be the one who stays fairly consistent in the middle part of the year. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Does Patrick Reed join the conversation? Maybe. After his Masters win he's arrived. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I'm thinking Jordan Spieth and I'm basing it on his Master's performance. If he continues to putt well and his iron game stays healthy, he'll be winning a few this year including a major. Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Does Patrick Reed join the conversation? Maybe. After his Masters win he's arrived. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Too far out to get to number 1 I do think he cracks the top 5 and makes his comments about being a top 5 player come true. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Too far out to get to number 1 I do think he cracks the top 5 and makes his comments about being a top 5 player come true. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Definitely agree. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I'm still going with Rickie but the room at the top is getting crowded Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I still like Bubba - he'll have a few more wins Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Justin Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I'd like to see Jordan get to number 1 again Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00sportsman Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I'd love to see Bubba got there (lefty bias) but I have to think that Spieth is the one who will be most consistent for the year. I always try to remember that I'm not good enough to get mad! My Bag: G400 Max G30 3W King S9-1 5W Aeroburner 3 Rescue/Hybrid G400 5-UW RTX4 52* and 56* 2Bar Mallet Traverse II Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I'd love to see Bubba got there (lefty bias) but I have to think that Spieth is the one who will be most consistent for the year.Bubba is going to have a good year, he's back!! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I'm thinking DJ. At least I hope. I'm thinking someone will pass him in the next month, or so, and it will be a kick in the pants for him to go on a run and take it back. Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Changed my mind. It will be TW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arobledo1293 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I think it could be JT or Speith. If Jordan keeps playing like he did on Sunday and does it again at another major he has to take the number 1 spot. Winning 4 majors in the last 3 years would just unreal. His major record is already unreal but adding another and maybe completing the slam before Rory would be unbelievable. If Jt wins another one and bags another tour win he'd be a worthy number 1 as well and would start to show signs that he can match Jordan and Rory on the big stage (majors is what I mean by that). Both fun players to watch. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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