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As I have been waiting for the snow to melt here in Idaho I have been doing a lot of fine tuning with my golf swing. Yesterday I came across something in my setup that is not talked about much. Hand position. Not how high or low the hands are but how far or close they are from my left thigh. I am a righty. If my hands are towards the middle, like below the belt buckle I noticed that when the club is parallel to the ground in the backswing the club is outside of my hands. If my hands are to far forward, say on top of my left thigh when the club is parallel to the ground in the backswing the club is inside of my hands. The interesting thing is that when I place my hands just inside my left thigh at setup the club is neither inside or outside but perfectly straight when it is parallel to the ground. This is for every club in the bag. I actually went out and struck a few on my simulator and contact was pure, ball flight was straight with a tiny draw. The other thing is that the face angle at address looks dead square now. It seems to also effect shoulder alignment and spine tilt. Has anyone else out there had any experience with this?

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My current teacher uses video and from a variety of angles. I was surprised at my set up. It's much more neutral, as you described, than I thought.

 

I asked my teacher if my hands shouldn't be more forward and his reply was there isn't a think about your set up that I would change. In fact I will use this picture to get other people properly set up in future lessons.

 

It does matter

 

 

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I'm going to assume you had video in slow motion to ascertain these positions with your hands. Especially as you're actually moving through your swing at regular speed. I can simulate my position at various points in my swing. But do I truly replicate that when I make a full swing? Only video or stop action will reveal that to me. 

Matchplay you've made some good points in your post. I haven't in quite some time taken a good look at my swing, setup, etc. using video but I know from the past it's very revealing. As the saying goes... what you feel (or think) isn't real.

For those that might be interested.... Michael Breed has a book titled, A Picture Perfect Swing. It's very good describing how to properly video your swing.

 

Good post Matchplay.

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I'm going to assume you had video in slow motion to ascertain these positions with your hands. Especially as you're actually moving through your swing at regular speed. I can simulate my position at various points in my swing. But do I truly replicate that when I make a full swing? Only video or stop action will reveal that to me.

Matchplay you've made some good points in your post. I haven't in quite some time taken a good look at my swing, setup, etc. using video but I know from the past it's very revealing. As the saying goes... what you feel (or think) isn't real.

For those that might be interested.... Michael Breed has a book titled, A Picture Perfect Swing. It's very good describing how to properly video your swing.

 

Good post Matchplay.

Thanks PlaidJacket

This has everything to do with setup and the position during the takeaway where the club shaft is parallel to the target line. Nothing else. If my hands are positioned correctly at setup the shaft of the club is straight down my stance line from a down the line view not inside or outside. Which I believe helps me set the club correctly at the top.

 

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Thanks PlaidJacket

This has everything to do with setup and the position during the takeaway where the club shaft is parallel to the target line. Nothing else. If my hands are positioned correctly at setup the shaft of the club is straight down my stance line from a down the line view not inside or outside. Which I believe helps me set the club correctly at the top.

 

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This was my teacher's point - good hand position at set up makes it far easier to swing the club properly - good grip, good lines, proper hand positions - of course a good athlete can overcome deficiencies in these areas but why would anyone want to put themselves through that?

 

Great post at the perfect time of the year for lots of guys here - you could actually work on this in front of a mirror.

 

 

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This was my teacher's point - good hand position at set up makes it far easier to swing the club properly - good grip, good lines, proper hand positions - of course a good athlete can overcome deficiencies in these areas but why would anyone want to put themselves through that?

 

Great post at the perfect time of the year for lots of guys here - you could actually work on this in front of a mirror.

 

 

Thanks revkev. I hope it helps someone get back into the swing of things. It sure is helping me.

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Cleveland RTX 54, Titleist SM4 48, Mizuno MP-T4 58

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Nice posts.I also agree that hand position at setup is a huge key to a great strike.Its something I started monitoring on video a few years ago.Ive started looking at two view -dtl + front on.Always makes sure my hands are neve drooping or lowering the handle dtl.Which shows me I'm slouching as well which is one of my faults needed monitoring.From front on I avoid the way forward setup.And actually play my best with hands behind the clubhead giving me that lead lag takeaway I love.

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The guy that teaches my daughters will have them vary their hand position at address. It's amazing how moving the position a half an inch will make a huge impact on the takeaway. It's like night and day.

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