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Found a set of 59's (3-PW) that have been played like 4 rounds but they have Dynamic Gold R300 shafts...  can get em pretty cheap I think...  :unsure:  :blink:  :unsure:

 

But those DG R300 are heavy (127g) and give a LOW ball flight according to their website.  I seem to balloon the ball with my xp95's though.

 

Would be nice if I knew someone who plays them...


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R300s will feel a lot heavier and definitely produce a lower ball flight with less spin

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:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X
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R300s will feel a lot heavier and definitely produce a lower ball flight with less spin

Coming from someone who has previously stated that they've never met someone who hits the ball TOO high this doesn't sound like a good thing...

 

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You also have to remember that these players style irons are going to launch lower than a game improvement set. So a lower launching shaft and head could cause issues for people that do not generate enough clubhead speed to create ideal launch conditions.

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:ping-small: G410 LST 9* Tour AD BB 6X
:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW Oban CT 115 X(-)
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 49F - 54S - 59D
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As much as I love the Cobra MB's, the combo of the MB and the C-Taper shaft is almost un-hittable, if I were to pick these irons I'd go with the KBS tour, I'd imagine they'd be dang near perfect.

 

 

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You also have to remember that these players style irons are going to launch lower than a game improvement set. So a lower launching shaft and head could cause issues for people that do not generate enough clubhead speed to create ideal launch conditions.

Good point. I hadn't really thought about that.

 

Got this at a demo day a couple years ago. Can't find an 850 forged in my $ range but the shaft is interesting...seems like I'm between a S and R due to the soft step??IMG_20180216_171702102.jpg

 

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As much as I love the Cobra MB's, the combo of the MB and the C-Taper shaft is almost un-hittable, if I were to lick these irons I'd go with the KBS tour, I'd imagine they'd be dang near perfect.

 

 

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C Taper is definitely a big boy shaft. KBS Tour is definitely a good middle ground. Another to look at in that weight range would be the Project X LZ steel.
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:ping-small: G410 LST 9* Tour AD BB 6X
:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW Oban CT 115 X(-)
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 49F - 54S - 59D
Putter ?????
:bridgestone-small: Tour B X
 
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Initial Driver Speed on Provided Monitor: 109 MPH
 

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As much as I love the Cobra MB's, the combo of the MB and the C-Taper shaft is almost un-hittable, if I were to lick these irons I'd go with the KBS tour, I'd imagine they'd be dang near perfect.

 

 

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Yeah...these Z+ aren't CTaper... tried those and knew after 1 swing that shaft wasn't for me...no matter how pretty it looks.

My current shaft is XP 95 and KBS Tour 90 seems to be the closest...

But I really want those Cobras.

 

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:callaway-small:  Apex 23 Catalyst 6.0
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:cleveland-small:  RTX Zipcore 54/58 
:ping-small: Sigma G Kinloch C 
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C Taper is definitely a big boy shaft. KBS Tour is definitely a good middle ground. Another to look at in that weight range would be the Project X LZ steel.

I like the feel of the shaft. Just a tad low when that combo is paired up. I'd probably love them in my current gamers or the iBlade. That might be a deadly combo.

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Yeah...these Z+ aren't CTaper... tried those and knew after 1 swing that shaft wasn't for me...no matter how pretty it looks.

My current shaft is XP 95 and KBS Tour 90 seems to be the closest...

But I really want those Cobras.

 

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Best thing to do when you really want them is to just buy it. That's why I'm still on the fence.

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...I'm wondering if I'm 'ready'...

 

I don't want forgiveness and offset.

I don't want stability, twisting resistance, expanded sweet spots.

I don't want a clubface that is 'expanded' from from heel to toe.

I don't want shovels.

 

I want maximum energy transfer.

I want flush shots that feel like they should.

I want smaller and compact.

I want hammers.

 

When I play a round I'd rather remember it more by the quality of my best shots than the acceptability of my worst ones...

 

At some point when I was learning to ride a bike I felt comfortable enough to take the training wheels off. Yeah, there were a couple of falls, but I got back up and learned to ride.

 

I'm ready to take the wheels off.

I'm ready to grow leaps and bounds.

 

Are you ready to take this journey with me?

Help me ... what's a psychopath to do?

 

 

Perhaps the best of both worlds is a combo set with P,9,8 bladelike and 7,6,5 with a cavity design?

Perhaps I'm also a masochist.

 

Ground rules: It's an experiment. I'm not going crazy here. Budget is 200. I can find an older set of Mizzy MX-23 or MP32 or some combo of something on the bay in that price range. I'm not married to any brand or company..I'll play anything within reason.

Also - I'm not looking for butter knives...masochism only goes so far.

 

 

...and yes, I understand the importance of getting fit and lessons and practice and being a good ball striker and smash factor and all that.

Try to find a set of old Titleist 735s if you can. Very nice split set (blades, mid-cavity and full cavity) and they feel amazing. Had mine for 10 years almost.

 

 

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Best thing to do when you really want them is to just buy it. That's why I'm still on the fence.

 

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Cobra Fly-Z+ Forged Iron Set 5-PW DynaLite Gold XP S300 Stiff Flex Steel RH

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Did it...

 

Cobra Fly-Z+ Forged Iron Set 5-PW DynaLite Gold XP S300 Stiff Flex Steel RH[/size]

Good for you Stroker. Hope they work out well for you.

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3W: Cobra King F7 3/4 Wood

5W: Cobra King F7 5/6 Wood

Hybrid 3/4: Cobra F7 20.5*

Irons: 5 to PW Taylormade P790

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Good for you Stroker. Hope they work out well for you.

Thanks! Now I just need the snow to move on down the road so I can use them...

 

 

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Did it...

 

Cobra Fly-Z+ Forged Iron Set 5-PW DynaLite Gold XP S300 Stiff Flex Steel RH

I have been looking at these on eBay for about a year.  My Fly-Z+ driver is working so well for me thought the irons would be just as good.  When it warms up let us know how they work out. 

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Driver - Ping G410 Plus 10.5 - Ping Tour 65 Stiff

4 Wood - Callaway Rogue - Project X Evenflow blue 6.0

Hybrids - Titleist 818 H2 -  3(c-1) and 4(c-4) - Tensei CK Blue 70 stiff

Irons - Callaway Apex  CF 16 5-AW - True Temper XP 95 Steel Stiff

Wedges - Ping Glide 54 SS, 58 TS

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I have been looking at these on eBay for about a year. My Fly-Z+ driver is working so well for me thought the irons would be just as good. When it warms up let us know how they work out.

I was on the fence between these, some Mizuno and the Wilson FG Tour. Heard a lot of good things about these so I'm hoping they live up to the hype!

 

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:srixon-small: Z785 KBS CTaper lite
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:ping-small: Sigma G Kinloch C 
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Did it...

 

Cobra Fly-Z+ Forged Iron Set 5-PW DynaLite Gold XP S300 Stiff Flex Steel RH

Impressed. Can't wait to hear your thoughts. I love those clubs.

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Did it...

 

Cobra Fly-Z+ Forged Iron Set 5-PW DynaLite Gold XP S300 Stiff Flex Steel RH

 

.... I think I have posted this before but I think the Amp Forged/Fly Z+/Forged Tours are the best all round players iron ever made. Between regular and mid size, beautiful head shape, nice sweet and soft multi-material forged feel, very accurate and consistent. You can work them as much as you have the ability to do so, both high and low as well as side to side. But they are also pretty straight for the player that just wants a forgiving players iron and does not want to work the ball. They are very forgiving of slight misses but anything worse and you are punished more than a GI. I always said "Everything the better player wants and everything the aspiring better player needs". 

 

... I will add these are a secret gem among those in the industry. When Cobra discontinued the Fly Z+ a year before re-releasing them as the Forged Tours, not only did Cobra get an earful from many working PGA Pro's and Clubfitters, Jose Miraflor Director Of Product marketing and other Engineers staged an internal protest and they were brought back into the line up. I think it is crazy that Cobra has never really marketed them, yet they have a cult like following among better players. Good luck with your new irons! 

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Driver:   Cobra Speedzone Xtreme 9* ... Atmos TS Blue 6s
Fw wood: Cobra Speedzone 14.5* ... Atmos TS Blue 7s
Utility:   TaylorMade UDi 18*  ... HZRDUS Black 6.0 85 hy
Irons:    4-Gw Titleist T100-S ... Kuro Kage 105 Tini s-flex
              4-pw TaylorMade P760 ... Recoil Prototype 95 r-flex
Wedges:  SM6 52* F Grind /SM7D & SM8M 58* ... Recoil 110s
Putter:  Newport 2.5 at 33"
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.... I think I have posted this before but I think the Amp Forged/Fly Z+/Forged Tours are the best all round players iron ever made. Between regular and mid size, beautiful head shape, nice sweet and soft multi-material forged feel, very accurate and consistent. You can work them as much as you have the ability to do so, both high and low as well as side to side. But they are also pretty straight for the player that just wants a forgiving players iron and does not want to work the ball. They are very forgiving of slight misses but anything worse and you are punished more than a GI. I always said "Everything the better player wants and everything the aspiring better player needs". 

 

... I will add these are a secret gem among those in the industry. When Cobra discontinued the Fly Z+ a year before re-releasing them as the Forged Tours, not only did Cobra get an earful from many working PGA Pro's and Clubfitters, Jose Miraflor Director Of Product marketing and other Engineers staged an internal protest and they were brought back into the line up. I think it is crazy that Cobra has never really marketed them, yet they have a cult like following among better players. Good luck with your new irons! 

 

Thank you sir!  Your opinion and advice played a very large part in my decision and I really appreciate you sharing your insight and wisdom.

I can't wait to get them out on the course.

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I have the Amp Cell Pro irons and I think they are hands down the best looking and feeling players irons on the market. I have no intentions of ditching them anytime soon.

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