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I'm in the market for a new putter this year and considering a ping sigma g anser or tyne, a Cleveland tfi #1, or an evnroll slant neck e5 (was told one is coming). As a lefty, it's hard to demo these clubs, so any feedback regarding sound, feel, and mishit correction from those who game these specific models would be much appreciated. In essence, is the evnroll that much better than the other 2? How effective is the Cleveland technology?

There's surprisingly little in the way of reviews of that line.

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I can't speak on behalf of the Evnroll, but I have both the Sigma G Anser and the first edition TFI 2135. They are both fantastic putters, and imo, the technology behind both of them work. I have not compared the two side by side, however.

 

The Sigma G promises consistent distance control no matter where the ball is hit off the face, and it does just that. I do not think the feel remains constant throughout the entire face, but that does not mean it's not soft off-center, it's just not AS soft as hitting center.

 

I haven't played my 2135 in a year or so, but I enjoyed it. The alignment tech is no joke, and for me it was buttery smooth. I'm not sure which model you're looking at, but I was not a fan of the stock grip, and had to immediately change it. Ping, on the other hand, have some fantastic PP60/61 grips that come stock on their putters. That is unless you already plan on swapping them out for whatever you prefer.

 

Hope that helped at least a little.

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I'm not good at posting links but I would suggest you view Adam Beach's blog video about putter technology.

 

I reviewed the ER5 for MGS. Here's what I can tell based on your question.

 

The feel is different from other putters that I have had. Not bad, just different. The good news is that the different gives good feedback, I do know where I'm striking the ball on the putter face.

 

The sound takes some getting used to. It's very reminiscent of old Pings. It also varies based on how the ball is struck.

 

Most important it really doesn't matter where the ball is struck on the club face - there is a great deal of forgiveness built into it.

 

Good luck whichever you choose and don't forget to get fit first

 

 

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Thanks for the helpful information. I definitely want to take advantage of putter technology. That's why I'm looking specifically at these three models. From what I gather, they all have face technologies that eliminate distance loss on off center strikes, while the evnroll also keeps the ball on line. I'm convinced that the evnroll and ping technologies work; however, I can't find much about the Cleveland satin line and it's effectiveness.

I guess ultimately I'm wondering how big the gap is between evnroll and the other two so I can determine whether or not it makes sense to spend roughly $200 more for the evnroll.

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Thanks for the helpful information. I definitely want to take advantage of putter technology. That's why I'm looking specifically at these three models. From what I gather, they all have face technologies that eliminate distance loss on off center strikes, while the evnroll also keeps the ball on line. I'm convinced that the evnroll and ping technologies work; however, I can't find much about the Cleveland satin line and it's effectiveness.

I guess ultimately I'm wondering how big the gap is between evnroll and the other two so I can determine whether or not it makes sense to spend roughly $200 more for the evnroll.

Well Evnroll did win most MGS Most Wanted Putter in the blade and mallet category... if that helps with anything.

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The 3 putters have the same basic face technology.  I have tried all three as part of the MGS most wanted testing.  I would agree that the sound/feel on the Evnroll is a little bit different that the other putters.  My preference on putters is knowing where on the face the ball impacts and I can accept any feel but prefer a little bit more of a clicky feel/sound.   i think the Evnroll tech works the best of the three.  The Ping has the same technology and if I remember correctly had to tweak it due to patent stuff with evnroll.    I have only tried one of the Cleveland putters so far.  They went with a very deep milling pattern on the face and it feels similar to the huntington beach line of Cleveland putters.   If I were picking,  I would probably go with the Evnroll.   

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I'm not good at posting links but I would suggest you view Adam Beach's blog video about putter technology.

 

I reviewed the ER5 for MGS. Here's what I can tell based on your question.

 

The feel is different from other putters that I have had. Not bad, just different. The good news is that the different gives good feedback, I do know where I'm striking the ball on the putter face.

 

The sound takes some getting used to. It's very reminiscent of old Pings. It also varies based on how the ball is struck.

 

Most important it really doesn't matter where the ball is struck on the club face - there is a great deal of forgiveness built into it.

 

Good luck whichever you choose and don't forget to get fit first

 

 

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I had the E5 for the testing as well. I remember Mr. Rife telling me, that he had fixed the sound in the 2017 version. I would assume the new ones coming out this year woukd have the improved sound as well.

 

 

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In my area I can't find anyone that carries Cleveland putter.  I am interested in the new TFI #1 with the new face tech but want to try it first.  It is a great value at $150 and Cleveland putters have been doing well in the MGS most wanted testing.  

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I bought the Satin 2135 Elevado near the end of last summer. The first couple of rounds I used it were not good. I ended up pulling the standard grip and replacing it with a SuperStroke Flatso 1.0.

 

With that change (and some practice), the Cleveland beat out all the other putters in my collection in a contest I set up (details here: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/21620-basement-green-and-putter-shootout/).

 

I suspect that, minus the kind of testing MGS is capable of doing (weeks or months and thousands of putts), it is very difficult to demonstrate the stroke-saving benefit of putter technology. It's not at all to say that I'm a tech skeptic; rather, I doubt that rolling an Evnroll or a Cleveland in a store will be a convincing display of the tech, any more than the immediate honeymoon effect that we've all had picking up a new stick.

 

As to the differences between the Cleveland and the Evnroll: I don't believe that the Cleveland claims to have any effect on putt direction, which is a claim of the Evnroll face. The Cleveland should help even out putt distances on off-center strikes. Assuming that there is something to that claim from Evnroll, that might be reason to pony up the additional $100+.

 

That said, the Cleveland is definitely my first-string putter now. The tech makes sense to me, though (again), I can't prove that it is the reason I made more putts with it. The fit and finish are top notch, and even more impressive considering the price point. The deep milling produces (for me) the exact feel I'd be looking for: very soft, a very dull (non-clicky) sound.

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For those interested, Mark Crossfield just put up his thoughts using the 2135:

 

 

While not an in-depth review by any means, the video is useful because you can get some confirmation of what I've said already: this putter has a really soft feel. Mark says it himself, and even the audio on the putts gives a good indication of the kind of feel that this provides.

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:755178188_TourEdge: C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S
:touredgeexotics: CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0
:Sub70: 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW
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