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As I age every year I am trying to maintain my club head speed. I do a golf specific workout and have maintained my flexibility well. My question is what is better? Is it better to swing a heavy club and try to build swing speed or is it better to swing a lighter club? I could see Ben if it's from both just wanted to see what everyone's thinks.

 

 

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I switched to a lighter club trying to help keep my SS up, but it caused the ball to go all over the place, I felt like I was swinging well, but one shot would go Left the next right, I switched back to a much heavier shaft and now it's much better, I tend to miss left instead being all over, and I didn't lose very much distance, maybe 2-3 yards.

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Kit.A.Door that makes sense but I'm looking for more of a practice element and not the actual shafts I'm playing

 

 

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FW: Callaway Steelhead Plus 4 wood

Hybrid: 19*

Irons:  Sub 70 

659 CB 4 - PW

Wedges: Sub 70

JB - 50* 54* & 60*

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I switched to a lighter club trying to help keep my SS up, but it caused the ball to go all over the place, I felt like I was swinging well, but one shot would go Left the next right, I switched back to a much heavier shaft and now it's much better, I tend to miss left instead being all over, and I didn't lose very much distance, maybe 2-3 yards.

This is exactly my findings. Light = all over the planet and heavy = fighting chance

 

 

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So how about for working out? Heavy club to build the golf muscles or just a shaft to train the body to swing faster.

 

 

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FW: Callaway Steelhead Plus 4 wood

Hybrid: 19*

Irons:  Sub 70 

659 CB 4 - PW

Wedges: Sub 70

JB - 50* 54* & 60*

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Check out superspeedgolf.com.  I've never tried it, but they have a pretty decent tour staff using it and I've read good things.

 

Basically they have 3 different weights.  You start lighter to learn to swing it faster, then increase the weight and try to keep the speed.  This is from their FAQ section...

 

Overspeed Training works by getting the body to move at a faster than normal speed during a known motor pattern. Essentially the brain has a set range of speed for the neuro-muscular response when a golfer makes a golf swing. We first need to increase the response speed from the body by reducing the “load” or in this case the weight of the club. We then need to gradually increase this load to teach the brain that the body is capable of running the motor pattern faster. In our application to golf, we use a club that is about 20% lighter than a driver, one that is 10% lighter, and one that is 5% heavier in order to achieve maximum results from overspeed training.

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As I age every year I am trying to maintain my club head speed. I do a golf specific workout and have maintained my flexibility well. MyGolfSpy

For what I think you're asking : heavy, just like baseball, they'll use heavy (weighted balls, bats) to help with strength & flexibility. I have & use off and on a weighted 5 iron. Don't try to swing hard with it & yes you can hit balls with it. You'll notice a difference when you go back hitting your normal irons.

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Check out superspeedgolf.com. I've never tried it, but they have a pretty decent tour staff using it and I've read good things.

 

Basically they have 3 different weights. You start lighter to learn to swing it faster, then increase the weight and try to keep the speed. This is from their FAQ section...

 

Overspeed Training works by getting the body to move at a faster than normal speed during a known motor pattern. Essentially the brain has a set range of speed for the neuro-muscular response when a golfer makes a golf swing. We first need to increase the response speed from the body by reducing the “load” or in this case the weight of the club. We then need to gradually increase this load to teach the brain that the body is capable of running the motor pattern faster. In our application to golf, we use a club that is about 20% lighter than a driver, one that is 10% lighter, and one that is 5% heavier in order to achieve maximum results from overspeed training.

I've see a couple of other guys mention these in different parts of the forum. I will have to look into these.

 

Thanks Meyer

 

 

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FW: Callaway Steelhead Plus 4 wood

Hybrid: 19*

Irons:  Sub 70 

659 CB 4 - PW

Wedges: Sub 70

JB - 50* 54* & 60*

Putter: Odyssey 2-Ball Ten Arm Lock
Ball: Callaway Chrome Soft X 
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As I age every year I am trying to maintain my club head speed. I do a golf specific workout and have maintained my flexibility well. My question is what is better? Is it better to swing a heavy club and try to build swing speed or is it better to swing a lighter club? I could see Ben if it's from both just wanted to see what everyone's thinks.

 

 

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I played baseball and softball for many, many years, and always used heavy to worm up. So for practice, I would swing heavier so that your clubs feel lighter, which would make your swing faster. I am not sure how it would relate to an on target swing, but it should up your swingspeed.
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I've see a couple of other guys mention these in different parts of the forum. I will have to look into these.

 

Thanks Meyer

 

 

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I have used this system for about a year and it has been great.  All of the research this company has done shows that swinging heavy things does not make you faster.  The founders also talk about pre-round warmup.  When there is not time to hit balls before a round I used to swing two wedges to warm up.  Their studies have shown that this will slow down your swing for a couple of holes.  Now I swing my driver to warm up and then turn it upside down and do a couple of really fast swings with the shaft to get my fast twitch muscles firing.  

 

This is one of the training aids that I feel is really worth the money.  

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I think I will be getting this from superspeed. Site is very informational and it might be just what I need.

 

 

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Driver: Taylormade M6 10.5*

FW: Callaway Steelhead Plus 4 wood

Hybrid: 19*

Irons:  Sub 70 

659 CB 4 - PW

Wedges: Sub 70

JB - 50* 54* & 60*

Putter: Odyssey 2-Ball Ten Arm Lock
Ball: Callaway Chrome Soft X 
Handicap index:  +2.1

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Swing the heavier club to help build some up the muscles a little. Swinging lighter helps build the fast twitch. I would do some of both.

 

 

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I took a cue from my putter, and have gone to heavier clubs. I find that if I start with a good back swing they're easier to return to a good position at impact. Faster SS, most assuredly not. Straighter shots, most definitely. FWIW, I'm a perfectly happy bogey golfer and this approach helps keep the doubles and dreaded others off the card.

 

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I have used this system for about a year and it has been great. All of the research this company has done shows that swinging heavy things does not make you faster. The founders also talk about pre-round warmup. When there is not time to hit balls before a round I used to swing two wedges to warm up. Their studies have shown that this will slow down your swing for a couple of holes. Now I swing my driver to warm up and then turn it upside down and do a couple of really fast swings with the shaft to get my fast twitch muscles firing.

 

This is one of the training aids that I feel is really worth the money.

Appreciate your take...something I will start researching...and then want [emoji57]

 

 

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Meyer and the super speed system are correct

 

In long drive we've trained this way for years vs just swinging heavy or medicus heavy head set ups alone

 

Swinging heavy doesn't increase speeds. It's builds muscle memory of swinging slower. Over speed training swinging lighter and heavier in certain reps and methods builds much better speed more memory to swing fast and get balanced doing it

 

Toddo

 

 

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I switched my driver and 3w to 75g shafts and my 3 hybrid came with an 80g shaft. Feels like I have more control with the heavier shaft. Am I'm not reallly sure I lost much distance if any at all.

I don't think the thread is about weight in the clubs you are gaining. It's talking about the use of training clubs.

 

I have nothing to contribute but have been reading along with great interest. Thanks guys

 

 

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Meyer and the super speed system are correct

 

In long drive we've trained this way for years vs just swinging heavy or medicus heavy head set ups alone

 

Swinging heavy doesn't increase speeds. It's builds muscle memory of swinging slower. Over speed training swinging lighter and heavier in certain reps and methods builds much better speed more memory to swing fast and get balanced doing it

 

Toddo

 

 

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+1 more for Super Speed. Our junior director (and coach of both my daughters) uses it. It's finally teaching my little one to swing faster.

 

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I just got fitted and thought i would end up with a lighter shaft, i am 50 and thought lighter would help but ended up with s300 shafts, the lighter shafts only increased my ss by 1 -2 mph but was shorter on carry distance, the s300 i was at 91 ss at 181 carry with tighter dispersion than the lighter shaft. Would have never believed it till i did trackman fitting.

 

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What about the Orange Whip? Shouldn't that help with swing speed?

 

 

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