DannyDips 100 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 3:44 PM, RickyBobby_PR said: Jordan hasn’t really changed much from inside the 10’ range. He’s not making nearly the amount of putts in the 20+’ range like we are used to. He has/had a setup issue and from what I understand it has to do with what eye is dominant and if his setup/alignment is off so is his putting. He tried to fix it last year with his coach and they got it somewhat straightened out. hes a good example of how that part of the game affected other parts I think I had heard the same exact thing about it being an alignment issue. Last weekend he basically tore up the easier North Course on Thursday for a -7 and was E the last three rounds on the harder South Course. From what I watched it looked like he sprayed his tee ball all over the place. His 2019 stats seem to back that up, Shots gained putting (0.262) and Shots gained approach the green (.137) are the only areas where he's gaining strokes on the field. I'm hoping he's getting it figured out and with anything like the yips that might be more mental than physical, a good dose of good play will wipe all those bad mental thoughts out. Confidence kills doubt. Quote Location: Golf Capital of Tennessee G410 LST 9° Mitsubishi Kuro Kage Silver Dual-Core TiNi X-Stiff G410 17° hybrid, X stiff M1 20.5° hybrid, X stiff JPX-921 Tours 4 iron thru PW, Modus 105 X-flex S18 50°, 56° & 60° Single Stock #3 34.5" putter 2019 MSG Forum Tester- Bridgestone e12 Link to post Share on other sites
Charli 913 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Spieth stinks... that is all. He’s beyond the yips. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny B 24,215 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 He is next to last in putts from 4 feet; misses more than 1 out of every 4 putts. IF he makes the weekend, he is over par on Sat and Sun. Can't be him; must be time to fire Greller or McCormick. Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to post Share on other sites
sixcat 3,602 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 "Nothing is as good as it seems, and nothing is as bad as it seems. Somewhere in-between lies reality." ~Lou Holtz~ I think Spieth is closer than the numbers suggest. He has a mind that is constantly going. He needs to get back to shutting his mind off and letting his game come to him rather than trying to force the action. When he does that, the results will follow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bardle 2,187 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 They didn't show much of him today. But what they did show was him missing putts in a big way. I mean missing 5 footers and leaving 3 ft comebacks, It wasn't even close. I'm not sure what's going on with him but it's not getting better week to week...they didn't show any of him from the tee or fairway so I'm not sure about that part of his game. Quote RH: Driver: F9 9.0º - 14g Low - Evenflow White T1100 75G X Woods: F9 3W - Evenflow White T1100 75G X Hybrids: F9 3H - Aldila Green X Irons: F9 One Length 4-PW - Modus3 Tour 105 S Wedges: King Wedges 50º/54º/58º Versatile Putter: Sigma G Tyne 35" Ball: Srixon Z Star XV #cobraconnect19 Link to post Share on other sites
tony@CIC 17,445 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 10 hours ago, bardle said: They didn't show much of him today. But what they did show was him missing putts in a big way. I mean missing 5 footers and leaving 3 ft comebacks, It wasn't even close. I'm not sure what's going on with him but it's not getting better week to week...they didn't show any of him from the tee or fairway so I'm not sure about that part of his game. I think he's lost all confidence and is now questioning every chip and putt. He needs to step away for a while and spend some time with a sports psychologist. Quote Left Hand orientation G410 SFT driver Cobra King F-9 5 wood 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter NX9-HD - 4 Wheel - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Snell MTB-X 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to post Share on other sites
bens197 6,195 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 He’s getting married. Different priorities. He’ll be back. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote PING G400 LST 8.5 Evenflow Black 65g 6.5 Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S Ben Hogan PTx Combo Nippon Modus 3 120S Maltby TSW 52, 58 Nippon Modus Wedge Bettinardi BB8 Wide Oncore Elixr Western, NY 5.7 Index Link to post Share on other sites
tony@CIC 17,445 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, bens197 said: He’s getting married. Different priorities. He’ll be back. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy They got married last November. Honeymoon and holidays are over! I know he'll be back then question is how long it'll take. 2 Quote Left Hand orientation G410 SFT driver Cobra King F-9 5 wood 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter NX9-HD - 4 Wheel - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Snell MTB-X 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to post Share on other sites
Shankster 25,700 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 It will take 10 years. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny B 24,215 Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Shankster said: It will take 10 years. Nope. The average length of a marriage in the US is 7 years. 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to post Share on other sites
GB13 7,778 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Kenny B said: Nope. The average length of a marriage in the US is 7 years. +3 years to finalize the divorce... 10 years 1 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to post Share on other sites
Kwoodfield 84 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I think we expect too much from guys like that each year. He’s been hot and cold, not the only player to do it. But putting has definitely hurt him of late. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny B 24,215 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Kwoodfield said: I think we expect too much from guys like that each year. He’s been hot and cold, not the only player to do it. But putting has definitely hurt him of late. I know players go hot and cold, but except for a couple of tournaments last year, he has been cold for more than a year. It was supposedly "an alignment issue". There's more going on; maybe physical, maybe mental... probably both now. I'm not sure how he gets back, except by winning a tournament. Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to post Share on other sites
Charli 913 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 But to answer the original post... this is no longer the yips. Yips don’t last this long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny B 24,215 Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Charli said: But to answer the original post... this is no longer the yips. Yips don’t last this long. I posed the question last year because Spieth was struggling. He's still struggling. I don't know if Spieth has the yips, but yips have ruined careers. Hogan had them. Yips are why Johnny Miller gave up the game. Tom Watson was a terrible putter from short range for years. He has said that the yips probably cost him at least one tournament a year for 10 years. When Spieth came out on tour, he was a reasonable short-range putter; not great, but adequate. Something changed in late 2017-early 2018. Whatever it was, it has caused him to lose confidence. He's missing four-footers, and he's not lipping them out; the ball doesn't hit the hole. He can't win a tournament only making 3 of 4 four-footers. Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to post Share on other sites
Charli 913 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Yips is just an excuse at this point. maybe he just stinks at short putts. Was never good and everyone just overlooked it because he was winning. Now it’s affecting the win column and it looks worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 5,269 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Kenny B said: I posed the question last year because Spieth was struggling. He's still struggling. I don't know if Spieth has the yips, but yips have ruined careers. Hogan had them. Yips are why Johnny Miller gave up the game. Tom Watson was a terrible putter from short range for years. He has said that the yips probably cost him at least one tournament a year for 10 years. When Spieth came out on tour, he was a reasonable short-range putter; not great, but adequate. Something changed in late 2017-early 2018. Whatever it was, it has caused him to lose confidence. He's missing four-footers, and he's not lipping them out; the ball doesn't hit the hole. He can't win a tournament only making 3 of 4 four-footers. It’s not the yips and it wasnt the yips. His problem is mental from tee to green. It started with not making putts and now he struggles with the driver and irons. if he could get out of his head and play care free he will be fine. Just look at his last 8 holes last week where he made par on every hole after a disastrous start to the round Quote Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4 Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125 Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
fixyurdivot 9,576 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 11 hours ago, Kenny B said: Something changed in late 2017-early 2018 Cupid's arrow took him from the penthouse to the outhouse. This sudden change aligned with his engagement and his game not been right since. 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver | Official 2019 MGS Tester G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w G410 Irons 4-UW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) B61 Putter Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny B 24,215 Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: It’s not the yips and it wasnt the yips. His problem is mental from tee to green. It started with not making putts and now he struggles with the driver and irons. if he could get out of his head and play care free he will be fine. Just look at his last 8 holes last week where he made par on every hole after a disastrous start to the round Yes, it started with not making putts, but why did he start missing putts in the first place? That was not mental. I agree it became mental when he struggled with the rest of his game, but something started the decline in putting. What causes a decline in 4 foot putting percentage from 95% to 80%? It's a poor read, poor alignment, poor speed, or poor stroke. Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 5,269 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Kenny B said: Yes, it started with not making putts, but why did he start missing putts in the first place? That was not mental. I agree it became mental when he struggled with the rest of his game, but something started the decline in putting. What causes a decline in 4 foot putting percentage from 95% to 80%? It's a poor read, poor alignment, poor speed, or poor stroke. He said he had an alignment issue related to his dominant eye and being right handed putter. He just hasn’t got that right and he wasn’t making the long putts as often and that put pressure on his short putts. He talked about this a few times last year Quote Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4 Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125 Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
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