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I feel I have given hybrids enough of a chance but these things don't work for me. I'm at a loss as to why. Perhaps I just need a fitting but I've tried small head hybrids; larger, almost fairway

get a 64' wedge that's something that can do damage to anyone's game.

I was on the range the other week hitting one of my Mac Custom 5 woods. THis kid beside me got curious and real politely asked me "Sir when did they start making hybrids out of wood?" He was sincere.

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Not sure how you can correlate lie angle to player ability. Clubs are fit to the player. If a club is too upright when the player takes his stance the toe will come off the ground and close the face making pulls more likely. Too flat and the heel comes up and the face points right. There is no standard for lie angles from club model to club model much less from manufacturer to manufacturer.

 

See this demonstration, when a player lowers and raises the handle to setup to the ball. The lie angle doesn't change, just how the club is positioned

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfIvm8jF0iz/

 

Speaking in generalities I would say the draw bias if hybrids is more related to the head design to counter the fade most players have with longer irons. From what I remember when looking at hybrids a while ago most had a closed face angle. As hybrids have become more popular you are seeing more models with a square face.

Yes - "Pro" model hybrids generally have an open face angle compared to the standard/non-pro versions (and generally come with a heavier shaft, too).

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I don't know if this help you, my 2cents. I changed my hybrid to steel shaft that's from my iron set(KBS tour 115g), it now works like a dream, within 5 yards variation. Use to be wild. 

 

my misses use to be wild hooks.

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I have been back and forth on hybrids

 

I hated them for awhile, then I got a set of Bridgestone J40 hybrids...a 2 and a 4 and those were "magic wands"...nothing but high straight shots with them.

 

I added an XR 5 hybrid a few years ago and hit it pretty good too

 

now I have a Cobra 4 hybrid that I am hit and miss with it......I tend to pull hook it off the planet when I miss it.

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now I have a Cobra 4 hybrid that I am hit and miss with it......I tend to pull hook it off the planet when I miss it.

I'm really surprised to see you say that. The F7 hybrid has been a total game changer for me and absolute money in the bank.

 

Before I got the F7, I was extremely hit and miss with any hybrid/driving iron for the past 5 years (before that, it was a 2 iron).

 

 

 

Here's my contribution to the thread: If you're having trouble hitting hybrids, you probably just haven't found the right one.........yet. Don't give up the search!

 

 

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I have a hybrid that rotates in and out of my bag. I probably need to look at a new one, but have yet to fall in love with one. I find I'm more consistent with long irons, but as I said they rotate in and out depending on the day and the course!

I do have a old burner rescue that other then needing to be regripped has worked well in the past... maybe it will make a return this season!

 

 

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I am ready to get to Austin in the next few months and go through a fitting for the upcoming Edel driving iron. I hit my hybrid VERY well, but I think the Mizuno MP-18 driving iron is creeping near the distance of the hybrid. I need to get the right gaps, and have the right clubs. Who knows, maybe I'll be ditching a hybrid!

 

 

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Hadn't heard about the Edel driving iron. Is it single length or standard?

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I'm in the process of moving my hybrid as well. I picked up a g400 3 crossover to put in the bag. I've been to inconsistent with the hybrid and I think this change will help me tremendously.

 

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Same here. My Tour Edge HL3 ironwood should arrive tomorrow. It SHOULD make me more consistent than I am with my current hybrids.

 

I gave it another try with the hybrids at the range yesterday, and I hit maybe 2 out of 10 shots. The rest were all over the place.

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I'm really surprised to see you say that. The F7 hybrid has been a total game changer for me and absolute money in the bank.

 

Before I got the F7, I was extremely hit and miss with any hybrid/driving iron for the past 5 years (before that, it was a 2 iron).

 

 

 

Here's my contribution to the thread: If you're having trouble hitting hybrids, you probably just haven't found the right one.........yet. Don't give up the search!

 

 

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Same here. My Tour Edge HL3 ironwood should arrive tomorrow. It SHOULD make me more consistent than I am with my current hybrids.

 

I gave it another try with the hybrids at the range yesterday, and I hit maybe 2 out of 10 shots. The rest were all over the place.

Maybe this will work better.

 

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Same here. My Tour Edge HL3 ironwood should arrive tomorrow. It SHOULD make me more consistent than I am with my current hybrids.

 

I gave it another try with the hybrids at the range yesterday, and I hit maybe 2 out of 10 shots. The rest were all over the place.

Sounds like my experience with hybrids. I've tried several times to move to one, but none of them have managed to kick my 2 iron from my old Eye2 set out of my bag. I'll take a little shorter and lower, but straighter, all day long.

 

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Sounds like my experience with hybrids. I've tried several times to move to one, but none of them have managed to kick my 2 iron from my old Eye2 set out of my bag. I'll take a little shorter and lower, but straighter, all day long.

 

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It's too early to know if it will be my solution. But I hit the ironwood at the range last night and it is definitely an improvement over my 3h. Can't wait to try it out on the course, hopefully this weekend.

 

 

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:srixon-small: Z355 22° 7 wood w/Miyazaki Jinsoku shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 19° 3 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 22° 4 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft

:tour-edge: HL E521 25° 5 hybrid w/Fubuki HD55 shaft

post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg Sti2 6 iron w/UST Recoil 660 graphite shaft
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It's too early to know if it will be my solution. But I hit the ironwood at the range last night and it is definitely an improvement over my 3h. Can't wait to try it out on the course, hopefully this weekend.

 

 

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Nope. Back to the hybrid. I just can't hit the ironwood. It has been benched.

 

 

 

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:srixon-small: Z355 22° 7 wood w/Miyazaki Jinsoku shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 19° 3 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 22° 4 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft

:tour-edge: HL E521 25° 5 hybrid w/Fubuki HD55 shaft

post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg Sti2 6 iron w/UST Recoil 660 graphite shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 Tour+ irons 7-PW w/UST Competition Series graphite shafts

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I feel I have given hybrids enough of a chance but these things don't work for me. I'm at a loss as to why. Perhaps I just need a fitting but I've tried small head hybrids; larger, almost fairway wood sized hybrids; both stiff and regular flex shafts and I've not found one that I am consistent and fully confident in. I have full confidence in my 3-wood as well as my 4-Iron, but that spot in the bag between the two I'm lost.

 

 

How many of you have switched from a hybrid to one of the new driving/fli hi irons that seem to have become pretty popular in the last few seasons?

 

For now, I'm just shafting up the 3-Iron again and it's going back in the bag.

 

 

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I'm with foreverdank.

 

When hybrids didn't like my game, a lofted fairway wood and a forgiving driving iron worked out best for me.

 

Nothing wrong with hybrids, of course, but if they're always going to be fighting you, there are alternatives.  We played a long time before TaylorMade introduced those orange FireSole Rescues.

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I ordered the 3 & 5 Hybrids with Recoil 660 shafts t9 match my irons. My issue is I tend to pull or hook these. I experimented with weakening my grip and was successful in straightening out the flight. I also tried open club face. Both worked.

 

 

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I ordered the 3 & 5 Hybrids with Recoil 660 shafts t9 match my irons. My issue is I tend to pull or hook these. I experimented with weakening my grip and was successful in straightening out the flight. I also tried open club face. Both worked.

 

 

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The problem, Foz, is that we're supposed to do those things to play a "golf shot," not to hit a straightforward routine shot. 

 

My perpetual gripe about modern equipment--what good is advanced technology if they can't do much about fit?

Fit isn't just what shaft to choose from launch monitor data.

Fit is correct lie and face angles...first.

 

The major OEMs have no interest in following the lead of boutique clubmakers who do offer changes to lie and face angles...and loft as well.

 

 

 

 

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