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Resurrecting this thread.  I'm currently in a putting funk.  Lag putts fine, but an absolute S&%^show inside 4 feet. I haven't consciously changed anything in routine or stroke, but my make percentage is down a healthy 30% 🤬.  Just wait it out, or?? 

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Resurrecting this thread.  I'm currently in a putting funk.  Lag putts fine, but an absolute S&%^show inside 4 feet. I haven't consciously changed anything in routine or stroke, but my make percentage is down a healthy 30% 🤬.  Just wait it out, or?? 

There are some great books on putting - I'm currently reading one called "the lost art of putting". The first half of the book deals with the "head" part of putting issues.


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There are some great books on putting - I'm currently reading one called "the lost art of putting". The first half of the book deals with the "head" part of putting issues.

From a technique side I found the metal ruler is a great and inexpensive putting aid. $7. at your local big box hardware store - just make sure the 3' ruler is on a level surface.


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20 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

Resurrecting this thread.  I'm currently in a putting funk.  Lag putts fine, but an absolute S&%^show inside 4 feet. I haven't consciously changed anything in routine or stroke, but my make percentage is down a healthy 30% 🤬.  Just wait it out, or?? 

Something has changed in your stroke.  You need to find out what it is.  Also. since you're now in AZ, the grass is different.  That may be affecting how you stroke the ball.  I know that when I go to AZ in 2 weeks, it will take me a few days to get used to the different grass.

I assume that your reads are correct, so spend an hour doing nothing but 2-6 foot putts.  Vary the speed; die it into the hole and ram it in.  Which works better?  I'm just guessing of course, but a die-in-the-hole putt will break out of the hole unless it's dead straight.  More speed will work better, but you might have a tendency to push/pull when trying to hit it harder.  Need to get a feel for it.  When they start going in, the confidence builds.  Good luck!!

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11 hours ago, Kenny B said:

Something has changed in your stroke.  You need to find out what it is.  Also. since you're now in AZ, the grass is different.  That may be affecting how you stroke the ball.  I know that when I go to AZ in 2 weeks, it will take me a few days to get used to the different grass.

I assume that your reads are correct, so spend an hour doing nothing but 2-6 foot putts.  Vary the speed; die it into the hole and ram it in.  Which works better?  I'm just guessing of course, but a die-in-the-hole putt will break out of the hole unless it's dead straight.  More speed will work better, but you might have a tendency to push/pull when trying to hit it harder.  Need to get a feel for it.  When they start going in, the confidence builds.  Good luck!!

One of my playing partners thinks its just a head-game issue. I'm even joking with the group that we have a better chance of drinking "birdy juice" if my ball is further from the hole. Presently, I feel more confident standing over a long putt than short ones 😬.  I'm playing 3x/week here in Yuma, on 4 different courses, for 2 months now. Yes, the greens are different but I don't think that's the issue at this point. I don't think (feel like) I've changed a thing in stroke.  This short-putt-itis just started and won't go away.  

My pre round putting routine is lag putting 3 balls from about 15-20 feet.  Then 3 putts from the ball furthest out.  I'm seeing the same issue on the practice greens.  I'm going to try and find some popular YT videos on short distance putting.  Toward the end of our round on Thursday, my partner suggested just walking up and more quickly/casually putting them - more like a tap in.  Maybe I am just over thinking.  Once you get started feeling like your going to miss them... ugghh!

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Put balls around a hole in a circle at 3 feet and just keep making them.

Make after make after make

It really works - once you’re on the course it becomes just like the drill if you’ve made enough of them.

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19 minutes ago, revkev said:

Put balls around a hole in a circle at 3 feet and just keep making them.

Make after make after make

It really works - once you’re on the course it becomes just like the drill if you’ve made enough of them.

Good luck

I like this drill too.  If you want to add a little pressure, putt these until you make 10 in a row.  Make 9, miss one, start over, those last few do start to put some pressure on you.  

Another drill, go to your local hardware store and buy a metal yardstick.  Put a ball in the little hole at one end, and practice at home until you can roll the ball off the end every time.  

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35 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

.  Once you get started feeling like your going to miss them... ugghh!

Yup just ask Jordan Speith! 

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Oh, something else I've found in my own putting, I have an occasional tendency to let my eyes follow the putter as it swings back and forward.  That seems to cause my body to move just a little, which makes my line control very erratic.  You might try to concentrate on a specific spot on the ball, or a point ahead of the ball, or even the hole itself, anything to keep your eyes from following your putter.

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37 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

I like this drill too.  If you want to add a little pressure, putt these until you make 10 in a row.  Make 9, miss one, start over, those last few do start to put some pressure on you.  

Another drill, go to your local hardware store and buy a metal yardstick.  Put a ball in the little hole at one end, and practice at home until you can roll the ball off the end every time.  

The first drill sounds like high school basketball free-throw practice. Coach required us to make 8/10 before heading home.  The yardstick technique is interesting.

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4 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

Oh, something else I've found in my own putting, I have an occasional tendency to let my eyes follow the putter as it swings back and forward.  That seems to cause my body to move just a little, which makes my line control very erratic.  You might try to concentrate on a specific spot on the ball, or a point ahead of the ball, or even the hole itself, anything to keep your eyes from following your putter.

I too have the same issue. Putting a bit here last night even, this problem reared up. The second I began looking at the back end of the ball all the way through the stroke and keeping my head down and focused on that spot long after the ball was away...MAGIC!

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21 minutes ago, PING Apologist #9 said:

I too have the same issue. Putting a bit here last night even, this problem reared up. The second I began looking at the back end of the ball all the way through the stroke and keeping my head down and focused on that spot long after the ball was away...MAGIC!

You and Dave may have touched on something with the eyes/focus spot.  I'll give that try today and see if this helps.  I told the group Thursday I should be fined for leaving so much trash (aka lost scoring opportunities) on the course. 😂

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4 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

You and Dave may have touched on something with the eyes/focus spot.  I'll give that try today and see if this helps.  I told the group Thursday I should be fined for leaving so much trash (aka lost scoring opportunities) on the course. 😂

I have every confidence that you will work your way out of this funk! Let us know how you progress!

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4 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

I like this drill too.  If you want to add a little pressure, putt these until you make 10 in a row.  Make 9, miss one, start over, those last few do start to put some pressure on you.  

Another drill, go to your local hardware store and buy a metal yardstick.  Put a ball in the little hole at one end, and practice at home until you can roll the ball off the end every time.  

I can be ridiculous sometimes - I started by forcing myself to make 9 from 2 feet, then 9 from 3 and 9 from 4 - tough to do at 5 feet.  When that got easy I made it 18!  (Golf is 9's and 18's after all). 

Today I do 9 - don't have the patience or the nerve for 18 anymore but I do the same thing chipping - I have to make 9 up and downs in a row before I stop.  🙂

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10 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

The first drill sounds like high school basketball free-throw practice. Coach required us to make 8/10 before heading home.  The yardstick technique is interesting.

The yardstick practice is tough at first, but once you do it a few time it's not so bad.  It's a sure-fire way to know if your putter face is square at contact.

I always start my putting practice before a round (well, all putting practice whether I'm playing or not) by making 4 footers with just my right trail hand.  If I can make two balls from all four positions around a clock with one hand, I know I will have a decent putting day.  If I can't, it's usually because my wrist breaks down and I flip.  It's something I have to work on all the time.

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7 hours ago, revkev said:

I can be ridiculous sometimes - I started by forcing myself to make 9 from 2 feet, then 9 from 3 and 9 from 4 - tough to do at 5 feet.  When that got easy I made it 18!  (Golf is 9's and 18's after all). 

Today I do 9 - don't have the patience or the nerve for 18 anymore but I do the same thing chipping - I have to make 9 up and downs in a row before I stop.  🙂

That would have me concerned as to what time they lock the front gates? 😄

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I spent all of my pre round practice time yesterday putting from 3-5 ft.  Just kept working with 4 balls from points around a couple of relatively flat holes.  I didn't find myself (eyes) following the putter head.  My make percentage seemed a little better, but not my usual. I pared the first 5 holes and did so by making putts from within 5 ft. I think getting that first couple to go in boosted my confidence.  As the round progressed, I did slip back a wee bit, but overall a definite improvement.  Worth noting is that this course has by far the best quality greens of any we play. The others are a bit thin in areas and much faster. I think for the purposes of putting practice and adjustments, I'll use that courses facility.

To be honest, I'm not sure what I did in swing change.  I was a little more deliberate on my feet alignment, attempt to be more perpendicular to ball path, but that's it.  One thing I believe is different is my stroke on lag putts vs. close in. I tend to use the Ricky Fowler stroke on lags and (your going to chuckle about this) channel my inner Ty Webb with an audible only to me na-na-na-na. 😂Some time ago, a couple of us were having a putt contest after the round and joking about Caddy Shack. While emulating that scene, I was putting lights out... hey, if it works, go with it. 👍

 

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13 hours ago, Kenny B said:

The yardstick practice is tough at first, but once you do it a few time it's not so bad.  It's a sure-fire way to know if your putter face is square at contact.

I always start my putting practice before a round (well, all putting practice whether I'm playing or not) by making 4 footers with just my right trail hand.  If I can make two balls from all four positions around a clock with one hand, I know I will have a decent putting day.  If I can't, it's usually because my wrist breaks down and I flip.  It's something I have to work on all the time.

Never tried a one handed putting drill. Why/how does putting one handed help?  

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12 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

Never tried a one handed putting drill. Why/how does putting one handed help?  

I use a normal grip; not lead hand low like a lot of players seem to like.  I tried that; can't do it for some reason.  So, my left hand is on the putter with the back of the hand facing the hole.  It basically does nothing except hold the putter.  My right wrist is cupped because the putter is pressed forward and the right hand provides a push down the line as I rock my shoulders.  Really, hard to explain, but it works for me.

I practice one-hand putts with my right hand to make sure the cupped wrist doesn't break down.  If I maintain the wrist angle through the stroke, the ball goes straight with good speed control.  If my wrist breaks down, well I will flip and usually miss left and my speed is off.  I find it very difficult to putt well when my hands get cold.  

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I use a normal grip; not lead hand low like a lot of players seem to like.  I tried that; can't do it for some reason.  So, my left hand is on the putter with the back of the hand facing the hole.  It basically does nothing except hold the putter.  My right wrist is cupped because the putter is pressed forward and the right hand provides a push down the line as I rock my shoulders.  Really, hard to explain, but it works for me.
I practice one-hand putts with my right hand to make sure the cupped wrist doesn't break down.  If I maintain the wrist angle through the stroke, the ball goes straight with good speed control.  If my wrist breaks down, well I will flip and usually miss left and my speed is off.  I find it very difficult to putt well when my hands get cold.  

Good drill to work on right side control. Like any drill it is dependent on what you are trying to accomplish. I am left side dominant and focus on keeping my left hand in same position. Same goal, but since I don’t engage my right side a right hand only drill wouldn’t do much for me.

Just like any tip or drill, you need to make sure it is the right drill for you.
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