Sam1492 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Hi Everyone, Just recently joined MyGolfSpy as a member, having read online for a long while! Hoping some people can give me some advice/guidance after just realising at the weekend what a waste of a club my current hybrid is... I currently play a Cobra F7 3 wood (15.5 degrees) then have an RBZ Stage 2 5 Hybrid which is 25 degrees, then into my irons 4,5,6 etc. So I probably have too big a gap between my wood and hybrid. Then, I play mostly links golf, so a high-flying hybrid isn't really much use in the constant wind of North East England and it doesn't fly as far as a well-struck four-iron either. Does anyone have any guidance on what hybrid might be the best fit between a 3 wood and a 4 iron? Would there be enough distinction between a 3 wood and a 3 hybrid? Cheers, Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome Sam most of our members will tell you a fitting to find the right gap distance wise and the right shaft for your ball flight is the way to go. It's not easy to suggest such a thing since a shaft can make the same club play totally different. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgDaddy Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome to MGS! tommc23 gave you some great advice. Driver - Rogue ST Max Woods - Rogue ST Max 3, 5 & 7 Woods Irons - Rogue ST Max Wedges - Zipcore RTX 6 50° CBX2 54* & 58* Putter - Evnroll ER2 Rangefinder - NX-10 Slope Ball - Pro Tour Drip Bag - Xtreme Cart 7.0 Bag Heather/Red/White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome to MGS. There are hybrids that go down in loft to the 16* range and can easily fit thengal you need to fill between 3 wood and 4 iron. I have a 3 hybrid that fills my gap. Best to go try a few and see what works best for you. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome aboard and you will get great info here to help you with equipment choices! Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1492 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Yeah, I think maybe a 3 hybrid would probably bridge the gap for me too, just been stuck with the 5 for so long think I've been kind of overlooking it! Welcome to MGS. There are hybrids that go down in loft to the 16* range and can easily fit thengal you need to fill between 3 wood and 4 iron. I have a 3 hybrid that fills my gap. Best to go try a few and see what works best for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1492 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Yeah, maybe I just need to go and find out my numbers to make the decision! Cheers Welcome Sam most of our members will tell you a fitting to find the right gap distance wise and the right shaft for your ball flight is the way to go. It's not easy to suggest such a thing since a shaft can make the same club play totally different.Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPattGolf Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome to MGS! tommc23 is 100% correct that a fitting will do you best. For me personally and how I like to use a hybrid, I have an 18* Titleist Hybrid that is turned down to 17.25*. Its maybe a little strong for some people but I'm more comfortable choking up to make some gap yardages work instead of having a shorter hitting hybrid * Staff Professional* Driver: Stealth Plus+ (7.25*) - Fujikura Ventus Black 6X Tipped 1" 3 Wood: Stealth Plus+ (14.25*) - Fujikura Ventus Blue 7x Tipped 1" Driving Iron: P790 UDI 2 iron - HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 100 6.5 4 Iron: P790 - KBS C-Taper 130 X Irons (5-7) P7MC - KBS C-Taper 130 X Irons (8-P) P7MB - KBS C-Taper 130 X Wedges: MG3 Black 50.09 / 55.11 - KBS TOUR FLT 130 X 60* Wedge: High Toe Raw - KBS Tour 130 X Putter: Custom Black ER2 or Custom Black Del Monte Bag: FlexTech Stand Bag Glove: Tour Preferred Glove Ball: TP5X #11 RangeFinder: R1 Smart Rangefinder Instagram: @dpattgolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PING Apologist #9 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Greetings from Idaho USA! Yup, set an appointment for a bag evaluation and you'll see where your gapping needs help-Cheers! In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome to the forum, Sam. Personally I don't get along with hybrids, but the rare event I do hit it well, my 3 hybrid fills the gap between my 3 wood and 4 iron. With that out of the way, the others in this thread have left you some great advice. I am going to echo their sentiments and say go get a fitting from a reputable club fitter. We're glad you have joined us on the forum. Keep asking questions on the threads, there are a lot of great guys in this community who are willing to help and lend some words of wisdom. Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome and kudos for coming straight out with a good question. Not sure what your irons are but the loft on your 4 iron and your RBZ hybrid sound about the same. I think a "typical" 4i loft is around 24 degrees, so if that's the case it seems you have 2 clubs with identical lofts, which probably doesn't help in your gapping. I have the same F7 3 wood and you can adjust the loft on that a bit so that gives you some flexibility there. If you plan on sticking with your 4i at around 24 degrees I'd suggest trying for something in the 18-21 degree range for a hybrid. This would hopefully fill that gap between the 3w and the next club. Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome! By design, hybrids are made to fly higher and a bit further than say a fairway wood. Switching to irons would be ideal but long irons are harder to hit. Maybe a 5w or 7w that fill in the gapping? MDGolfHacker TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome, and the advice you've been given so far is excellent. Not much to add other than not discounting a 5w in place of the hybrid based on the lofts you need. You have a lot of options available to you. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 A 3 hybrid/iron or 5/7 wood would theoretically fill in the distance gap you have. Welcome to MGS, Sam! Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kardboard.kid Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome the group. As you can see there is a wealth of knowledge here. Couple that with friendly advice and no negative comments and you will realize you have found golf heaven. F7+ w/Fujikura Pro XLR8 Graphite Shaft 3-I MPF H-Series3B2M graphite Shaft w/Winn Dri-Tac grip mid STi Irons 5-SW KURO KAGE 70IR Flex-R Lamkin Grips King F6 Hybrid Matrix Red Tie HQ4 Graphite Shaft Forged FGT 60* wedge KURO KAGE 70R SS cross Comfort grip O-Putter 1W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poprocksncoke Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome to the forum!!! SLDR 10.5 Oban HB R11s Rip Phenom Ft. Worth Black Irons 588 RTX Rotex 2.0 54 CG10 58 EV 5.3 Duo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesedw Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome for the Pacific Northwest.. Dave- Follow me on twitter @GolfCrazyWA and on Instagram @GolfcrazyWA WITB: Cobra Ultralite Cart Bag Titleist TSR3 Hzrdus Black 65g shaft Cobra F8+ 3wd Hzrdus Red 65g shaft Cobra 3 hybrid Rogue Pro 75g Shaft Cobra 4 hybrid Rogue Pro 75g Shaft Cobra F8 irons 5-GW KBS tour 90 stiff shafts Cobra King Black Wedge 54* Cleveland RTX Zipcore Wedge 58* Snake Eyes Viper Putter. Ball: Taylormade TP-5X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I play an X2 Hot Pro hybrid between my 4 iron and 3 fwy and that gives me plenty of room between the two. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808nation Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome fellow spy, looks like you got some pretty good advices already Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk WITB: Driver: Sim2 Max w/ Fujikura Motore X F3 shaft FW Wood: F9 wood 14.5* Hybrids: Sim2 Max 3 Hybrid & Vapor Flex 4 hybrid Irons: Z565 - 7 thru PW & ZU85 - 5 thru 6 with Recoil ZT9 F4 shafts Wedges: RTX4 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Scotty Cameron M2 Newport Ball: Black & Pro V1 Bag: 2018 MyGolfSpy stand Bag & 2021 Greenside Golf stand bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palvord Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Welcome to MGS from Metro-Detroit. And I second what tommc23 said. Get a fitting specifically geared towards gap testing. There are many variables that they can help you consider when choosing how to close that gap. For me, I went with an Adams Red hybrid between my 3 wood and 4 iron. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy In my Ultralight Stand Bag: Driver: Rogue 10.5° - LH - Project X EvenFlow 60 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff King F9 - LH - 5/6 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff Irons: King F9 - LH - 5-GW - KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° - KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Stiff Putter: - Impact No. 3 Ball: Maxfli TourX Rangefinder: LX5 Watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 The good news is there are a lot of great hybrids out there and they're super affordable! Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1492 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Hi, Thanks for the response. I play Cleveland CB16 Irons, and they're quite strong lofted, the 4-iron is 21 degrees, so less than my hybrid... but if I'm striking the ball well, I'd kind of just ignore my hybrid all together, so yeah, maybe a hybrid around 18 degrees would fit the gap between my wood and iron. Think I'm definitely losing yardage in this area, so think a fitting to work out my distances and looking for around 18 degree hybrid might be the answer! Cheers, Sam Welcome and kudos for coming straight out with a good question. Not sure what your irons are but the loft on your 4 iron and your RBZ hybrid sound about the same. I think a "typical" 4i loft is around 24 degrees, so if that's the case it seems you have 2 clubs with identical lofts, which probably doesn't help in your gapping. I have the same F7 3 wood and you can adjust the loft on that a bit so that gives you some flexibility there. If you plan on sticking with your 4i at around 24 degrees I'd suggest trying for something in the 18-21 degree range for a hybrid. This would hopefully fill that gap between the 3w and the next club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1492 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Yeah, maybe a 5 wood would be a useful addition. I like the versatility of the hybrid though. Playing links golf you get lots of nasty lies where you can't get a wood to, but a hybrid can play through it, so they have their benefits! Cheers, Sam Welcome! By design, hybrids are made to fly higher and a bit further than say a fairway wood. Switching to irons would be ideal but long irons are harder to hit. Maybe a 5w or 7w that fill in the gapping?MDGolfHacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1492 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Yeah, think that's a fair assessment haha! My 4-iron is 21 degrees too, so hybrid is up past that. But then the forgiveness it offers is kind of a safe rest-point when I'm not striking the ball great. Think the general consensus is to look for a hybrid around 18 degrees! Cheers for the advice. Sam Welcome to the group.You don't have too big a gap between your 3-wood and your hybrid, you have a chasm (11 degrees).As has been covered, to some extent - your hybrid not only doesn't fit between your irons and your 3-wood, it all but replicates that of your 5- or 6-iron (depending on the lofts of your particular set of irons) or maybe fits between them. ... So without knowing what set of irons you're currently gaming, it's really going to be hard to answer - other than the fact that without ditching one of your irons, yes, your hybrid is useless/pointless.For example, my iron set is: 21* 4-iron, 24* 5-iron, 27* 6-iron, etc.As a result my hybrid (4h) is intended to replace my 4-iron being as it's 22-degrees.So, if your irons are similar to mine, and you want to keep your 4-iron in your bag, you're going to need a hybrid somewhere in the range of 18-degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No3PuttLaLa Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Welcome to MGS from Seattle! I currently use a F6 Adjustable 3-4 Hybrid and it fills the void nicely between my 3W and 4 iron Driver: M4 10.5* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Woods: M6 3W 15* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Hybrid: M4 Rescue 19* / KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 85g Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Irons: Z585 4-AW / KBS Tour 90 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Wedges: CBX - 56* & 60* / KBS Hi Rev 2.0 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Putter: Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum / Superstroke Pistol Ball: Project a Bag: Hoofer 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Welcome from the Pacific Northwest! Glad you joined us. The RBZ is a great hybrid. I played it for many years, and we play in a lot of wind on links-style courses. I found it to be longer than an equivalent iron of the same degree loft. I used a 5H that fit my gap after my 5i, then played a 3H. Since you are happy with your 4i, a 3H at 19* would be a good place to start, but find the correct gap. Not all hybrids play the same by a long shot!! The shaft will make a big difference. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Welcome from Ohio! I don't have anything to offer that hasn't already been said. Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddryan Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Welcome to the Forum! I have enough difficulty keeping my own game in check, so don't want to offer something that might be wrong. The guidance given above is very good, and comes from several MGS'ers with a treasure trove of experience. That is the value and gift of the Forum! Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy What's in the bag? Driver Callaway Mavrik 105 set to 9.5, square, Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60G Stiff shaft #3 Wood Callaway FT Tour 13 degree neutral setup, Fuijkara 370 Stiff Shaft Hybrid 18 Degree King Cobra Baffler pro, Baffler Stiff shaft 4-PW Titlest 714 AP2, Standard loft and lie, MGS S Shafts 53, 57 degree loft Hogan Equalizer wedges 1962 Wilson "Sandy Andy" sand wedge with HUGE bounce! Putter MLA Pro Classic Titlist ProV 1, ProV 1x Currently Gaming "Costco Kirkland Signature Tour Performance" balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Welcome to the forum - sorry can't help you with advice. I've got too many of my own golf issues. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Welcome I will chime in because I'm skimming the replies this one didn't come up - I think (Caveat - a fitting would be the best move) Baring a fitting or other professional consult you have for options - a five wood, a three hybrid (around 19 degrees), a driving iron, a traditional 3 iron. Sounds like you've already eliminated the 5 wood and I would assume the 3 iron as well (even touring pros normally sub out these anymore). So for you the question is hybrid or driving iron. Test some out and see how you hit them - there are tons of different design offerings within the hybrid category and you can pick a wide variety of used hybrids up for a song. IMO there's very little difference between a 5 year old hybrid and a current model. Good luck Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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