I have played the TPC of Scottsdale a couple times. Nicely manicure and in great shape but does not have much pizazz I guess you could say. The last 4 holes are the most fun on the course. I played once a few years back on the Tuesday after the WM Phoenix Open and that was really cool to play 16 with all the grandstands still up and the Sunday pins. Really quiet though...lol.