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On 11/19/2018 at 3:01 PM, NiftyNiblick said:

Calamity Jane replicas are still available.

How can you beat the Calamity Jane?

LOL I have several that style different brands different shafts. I like playing one in my vintage rounds when it has been wet and they have not been able to cut the greens or on a Goat Track type course with questionable greens. I have a Mac M2 from the 40s with gasp a brass insert that I love

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If you want a�name� go Scotty If you want sweet milling and style go Betty If you want unique check out Xenon If you want form and function check out Kronos If you want super clean and awesome

IMHO and this is bottom line straight at you. Does not matter the brand or cost. Find a putter that feels good and looks good to you. You get those 2 things going then you have confidence. I have seen

My EvnRoll is as premium as most anything else I have played. It doesn't have the same mystique as a Scotty but it rolls the ball so true. You can tell by the build and look it is quality as well as

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For top end type putters: to name a few

Betts,

Scotty

Piretti

Toulon

when getting one just get a fitting to ensure it stays a friend once purchased.

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15 hours ago, McGolf said:

For top end type putters: to name a few

Betts,

Scotty

Piretti

Toulon

when getting one just get a fitting to ensure it stays a friend once purchased.

What makes these top end type putters?   Cost?  Milled heads? Name?   I agree with the fitting approach, but  the question is can you meet your fitting needs with most of the manufacturers?   

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Save your money for lessons and purchase the new Cleveland Huntington Beach SOFT. Terrific double milled putter that is under $130!
 
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I second this advice. After testing out just about every putter in the universe the other day, regardless of the price, Cleveland’s line of putters are fantastic on merit alone. The price of them is extremely tempting to pass up on. If I truly wanted a replacement putter the Cleveland would be at the top of my list.


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1 hour ago, GSwag said:


I second this advice. After testing out just about every putter in the universe the other day, regardless of the price, Cleveland’s line of putters are fantastic on merit alone. The price of them is extremely tempting to pass up on. If I truly wanted a replacement putter the Cleveland would be at the top of my list.


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Yeah, they are really solid putters. I think they have kind of priced themselves as a bargain brand though. Being on a golf forum, we know that they make high quality equipment, but I think the everyday consumer might precieve Cleveland putters as cheap, and therefore inferior. 

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On ‎11‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 2:42 PM, cnosil said:

What makes these top end type putters?   Cost?  Milled heads? Name?   I agree with the fitting approach, but  the question is can you meet your fitting needs with most of the manufacturers?   

You could meet the needs of most golfers with most makers, To me for top end is more about quality, The Bettinardi folks have established certain quality standards as allowable,  Toulon does testing and gather acceptance from professionals as does Scotty. 

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You could meet the needs of most golfers with most makers, To me for top end is more about quality, The Bettinardi folks have established certain quality standards as allowable,  Toulon does testing and gather acceptance from professionals as does Scotty. 


Depending on the approach you take for fitting, you would struggle to find some ideals for a player in any putter line.

Bettinardi, Cameron, Ping, evnroll, Odyssey, Wishon, KZG, boutique makers, etc. all make quality putters. With the use of CNC milling machines almost
all putters are made to tight tolerances. There are some subtleties that can make differences but almost all putters are high quality.

I am not a big supporter of what is good or acceptable for a pro is good for me. My stoke is mine and I need to find the putter that works for me. Many Pros are just as fickle about clubs as amateurs, most are paid to play a particular brand, and they spend considerable time practicing to ensure the putter works for them or it is a style they have used all their life.

Not saying my opinions are what everyone should believe, but generally when providing a brand opinion I like to see a reason why. Is there a technology reason or is there something the club promotes over others. Help us understand the details of why you think that is the best option.

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2 hours ago, Middler said:

Best putter I’ve ever owned in 54 years. But it’s a personal choice, so all I ever ask when others solicit suggestions is to include an Evnroll among putters under consideration. With 11 different head shapes, necks, lenghths, weights - there’s something for almost everyone.

IME the Evnrolls are as good as any with respect to look, feel, quality, alignment, etc. but what sets the Evnrolls apart is consistent distance. That’s been worth a few strokes here and there for me, you’re not going to get much more from one putter over another.

I did a fair amount of testing of the Evnroll on Friday night at the PGA Superstore and came away unimpressed honestly.  I also had a bias in my head, because everyone here has spoken glowingly about their putters.  But considering I spent several hours trying just about every putter out there the Evnroll didn't stand out to me in any regard.  Honestly, I thought the Cleveland putters were better overall, at least for me.  And when all things are equal if you are gonna have a choice between a $100 putter and a $350 putter and you can't tell the difference, I'm gonna pull the trigger on the cheaper option.

Now with all that said, I did my fair amount of testing with the Scotty's that were out and available to test with, and I can see why everyone loves them, as there is just something unique about the Scotty Cameron overall, at least as compared to everything else.

I guess it all comes down to feel for me, as I am a feel player, and after hitting so many putters, from the cheapest Tour Edge or Wilson, to a Scotty Cameron, if I would have had to pick one from the entire selection I would have bought a Cleveland putter.

I will also say that I spent a LOT of time trying out the new PING putters, and I loved the feel on those babies.  But I couldn't justify spending twice as much on a PING putter, when the Cleveland putters felt just as good or better for half the price.

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I’m probably the odd man out anyway. I think Scotty’s are beautiful, but they don’t do anything for me in terms of feel, alignment or consistency. .


I don’t think you are odd man out. Scotty’s are beautiful putters. I have had some throughout the years and continually try them. Based in my fittings and what I have been taught about putter fitting and how to putt there isn’t a model that fits my stroke very well. Since I don’t improve my putting with them I don’t buy them.
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3 hours ago, Middler said:

^^ If you didn’t like the Evnroll, I wouldn’t try to twist your arm. Whatever you like best in your price range is what you should have.

I’m probably the odd man out anyway. I think Scotty’s are beautiful, but they don’t do anything for me in terms of feel, alignment or consistency. I’d buy a PING at half the price and be happier with that. For whatever reason, the Evnroll stood out for me and I’ve been pleased with it on course. I’ve also test driven other Evnroll shapes vs other putters since buying my ER2, and preferred other Evnroll putters.

Could be all in my head, but it works for me.

No, I really don't like Scotty's either. They just don't feel like they have the right weighting for me. They all feel unstable. I really like the way PINGs are weighted and they always come out on top during fittings, so I play PING. 

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Am I the only one that cant get over how a putt feels with a milled face compared to something with an insert or odyssey micro hinges? Anytime I am at a store or club house I always gravitate to the putters and mess around with a handful of them. No matter what brand I try, I just dont like the feeling of a milled putter striking a ball when putter. 🤷‍♂️

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4 hours ago, patrickleeleep said:

Am I the only one that cant get over how a putt feels with a milled face compared to something with an insert or odyssey micro hinges? Anytime I am at a store or club house I always gravitate to the putters and mess around with a handful of them. No matter what brand I try, I just dont like the feeling of a milled putter striking a ball when putter. 🤷‍♂️

Everyone is different and we have our preferred sound/feel when the ball comes off a putter face.   I prefer more of a clicky sound and generally prefer milled faces;  though a milled face can be made to feel soft with deeper grooves and thicker topline.  

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1 hour ago, cnosil said:

Everyone is different and we have our preferred sound/feel when the ball comes off a putter face.   I prefer more of a clicky sound and generally prefer milled faces;  though a milled face can be made to feel soft with deeper grooves and thicker topline.  

I love that plush feeling when you strike a putt well. But the adverse part of that I think is mishitting a putt with a face that has inserts or whatever else, it will react differently trying to get it roll. 

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I love that plush feeling when you strike a putt well. But the adverse part of that I think is mishitting a putt with a face that has inserts or whatever else, it will react differently trying to get it roll. 


Depends on the insert. Ping TR face, Bobby Grace HSM and Edel pixel face are some examples of inserts that are all advertised to help with distance control on off center hits. Even with these insets I am pretty sure that the feel/sound can be enhanced by putter design.
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Hello my fellow spys and friends, I plan on treating myself to a Scotty, Bettinardi or something that is a bit more expensive than I'd ever imagine spending I'm only 25 so I really shouldn't buy one with other priorities but I want to save up and purchase something nice... anyone with either kind of putter or something else please give me any feedback you can and some info on the brands. I know I use my putter probably more than any other club so it's my favorite...
 
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Have you hit any of these putters? Personally I use a Ping anser 2 and I love it. It’s the closest I can get to a replacement for my method that burnt in a fire. A putter is the Best Buy in my eyes however the more expensive doesn’t mean the better for your game. Find out what works for you. Hit a bunch until you find what you like, looks,style, length, grip, feel, and a lot more all go into a putter.


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10 hours ago, Mizuno_fan said:


Have you hit any of these putters? Personally I use a Ping anser 2 and I love it. It’s the closest I can get to a replacement for my method that burnt in a fire. A putter is the Best Buy in my eyes however the more expensive doesn’t mean the better for your game. Find out what works for you. Hit a bunch until you find what you like, looks,style, length, grip, feel, and a lot more all go into a putter.


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I tried loads, you name it I've tried it, including mallets but my eye suits a blade (its important you like the look of what you see at address and it sits square without gripping).

I eventually went to a Ping Anser 2 that has no inserts and when my stroke is working its a great putter that sounds sweet and very consistent. With most putters it's the Indian not the arrow, but get a good arrow and confidence improves.

As Mizuno fan states, expensive doesnt mean better.

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(its important you like the look of what you see at address).

. With most putters it's the Indian not the arrow, but get a good arrow and confidence improves..


I always see people say that it is important for the putter to look good. What evidence is available to show that this is true other than people making the statement? MGS tests have shown that looks are subjective and most times don’t line up with objective results.

Players can adapt themselves to a putter, but having the right combination of stroke mechanics and putter design can drastically improve performance. A mismatched combination can work in the short term but will often have issues in the long term or in pressure situations when a player falls back to natural stroke tendencies instead of the manipulations they make for the mismatched putter.

You can fit a player to a putter or fit a putter to a player. For me, I want the putter that fits my stroke.
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I always see people say that it is important for the putter to look good. What evidence is available to show that this is true other than people making the statement? MGS tests have shown that looks are subjective and most times don’t line up with objective results.

Players can adapt themselves to a putter, but having the right combination of stroke mechanics and putter design can drastically improve performance. A mismatched combination can work in the short term but will often have issues in the long term or in pressure situations when a player falls back to natural stroke tendencies instead of the manipulations they make for the mismatched putter.

You can fit a player to a putter or fit a putter to a player. For me, I want the putter that fits my stroke.

 

My point, and opinion, is only related to it looking good at address, not just looking good.

For example I sourced the exact same Odyssey #7 that Luke Donald used as I really liked the look, but at address it sat closed -to my eye- which gave me no confidence and probably had me manipulating the head during the stroke.

I agree looks are subjective and so is confidence, neither can be measured and certainly I dont think theres any evidence either. 

It's more a state of mind and we all know a huge part of golf is in between the ears.

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On 11/26/2018 at 8:23 AM, GSwag said:

I did a fair amount of testing of the Evnroll on Friday night at the PGA Superstore and came away unimpressed honestly.  I also had a bias in my head, because everyone here has spoken glowingly about their putters.  But considering I spent several hours trying just about every putter out there the Evnroll didn't stand out to me in any regard.  Honestly, I thought the Cleveland putters were better overall, at least for me.  And when all things are equal if you are gonna have a choice between a $100 putter and a $350 putter and you can't tell the difference, I'm gonna pull the trigger on the cheaper option.

Now with all that said, I did my fair amount of testing with the Scotty's that were out and available to test with, and I can see why everyone loves them, as there is just something unique about the Scotty Cameron overall, at least as compared to everything else.

I guess it all comes down to feel for me, as I am a feel player, and after hitting so many putters, from the cheapest Tour Edge or Wilson, to a Scotty Cameron, if I would have had to pick one from the entire selection I would have bought a Cleveland putter.

I will also say that I spent a LOT of time trying out the new PING putters, and I loved the feel on those babies.  But I couldn't justify spending twice as much on a PING putter, when the Cleveland putters felt just as good or better for half the price.

I plan on doing the same thing this weekend, I'm really excited to hit the Ping Sigma 2's and the Huntington Beach SOFT's... Based on your  experience, which one did you fee was Softer coming off the face?

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