Home Field Advantage for NCAA Championship?

[Comemonday]

I don't think it's fair Bama lost to OSU on their home course where OSU have putted those greens hundreds of times. Is that a thing in NCAA golf where one team gets a home crowd, living normally with no time change and a tv show?

 

I'm not a Bama fan and I honestly could not have cared less but because of “driven” on the golf channel. Makes me wonder how it all came together really. Like it was scripted almost. Hmmmmm.

 

 

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[Comemonday]

How weird would it be if Ricky won this week?

 

 

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[evershady]

I saw Snedeker posted on twitter its time for a neutral site. When he played there in 2003 or whatever shot an 80 and wondered why they all hit 1 iron off every tee during practice. Golf is one sport where local knowledge is king both teams should have limited access to the course though out the year to be fair. But that is how some college sports work. My sister in-law was on the equestrian team at the University of Minnesota. Her senior year the made team sectionals to go to Nationals had to go to Ohio States back yard with the horses they used everyday for practice. It a lot different getting a horse you've never rode to do the same thing as a horse you ride every day.  Also judged sports are crap.

[BigtazzGolf]

Home crowds and home team advantages are part of sports.

What was the reason they played in Oklahoma?

 

 

 

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[Undershooter]

I cannot believe I'm saying this.... But I whole heartedly agree.

 

Btw, yes I am a Bama fan. Although it matters little here.

 

I've made this same argument for years on this same forum. Playing your home course, and sleeping in your own bed around your same friends make things much more normal in pressure situations.

[revkev]

I don't think it's fair Bama lost to OSU on their home course where OSU have putted those greens hundreds of times. Is that a thing in NCAA golf where one team gets a home crowd, living normally with no time change and a tv show?

 

I'm not a Bama fan and I honestly could not have cared less but because of “driven” on the golf channel. Makes me wonder how it all came together really. Like it was scripted almost. Hmmmmm.

 

 

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I am no fan of the NCAA but the only conspiracy here would be economics. Who can host this thing and make money?

 

That's what the group cares about.

 

 

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[RickyBobby_PR]

They played there in 2014 and Augusta won it that year. How many times has the home team not won it on their home course. Let not forget OSU was one of the best teams all year. They beat #2 ranked team in the quarterfinals

[Golfspy_Lukes]

Scripted? So all of the other players from other teams decided to throw all of their matches? Cmon dude

[palvord]

Hosting does not equate winning. Since 1939, only one other time has the host team won (2016 Oregon).

 

There are many championships, at all levels, that are not decided at a neutral location. Fair may not have been the best word choice to describe the situation.

 

Karsten Creek has been open since 1994. It's not a secret venue that only OSU's golf team is allowed to play. Members and guests alike are allowed to play the course. It also has hosted the NCAA championship two other times (2003 and 2011). This is not a hidden, secretive, exclusive course.

 

Also, scripted is a loaded word to use. You are insinuating that every other team, coach, and school threw their matches. Words matter.

 

Serendipitous could be a better word choice. Or incredible. Or unprecedented.

 

 

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[MaxEntropy]

There are many championships, at all levels, that are not decided at a neutral location. Fair may not have been the best word choice to describe the situation.

 

 

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I attended the 2017 Men's Volleyball National Championship between Ohio State and BYU (hosted by Ohio State). Was it unfair to BYU? OSU certainly had home court advantage, but had OSU not made it to the finals, the match was still going to be played in Columbus. In many sports, the host site is picked long before the season is played (currently, volleyball sites have been picked through 2022), so it has a very good chance of being a "neutral" site unless the home team happens to be good. I like @palvord's word - serendipitous.

 

Does NCAA golf work the same way? I'm not sure, but I would guess it does.

[Eseay32]

I don't have a problem with this. It's not as if they got the advantage as of this year for being so good, it was pre selected. Not much different than Minnesota nearly playing the super bowl at home or the World Series or Anything. I understand the argument that they know ever break and read and strategy but still have to hit shots and play well. Unless you pick courses that no one gets to play, this could always be an issue

 

 

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[Undershooter]

They played there in 2014 and Augusta won it that year. How many times has the home team not won it on their home course. Let not forget OSU was one of the best teams all year. They beat #2 ranked team in the quarterfinals

Bama won it 2014. It was part of their back to back titles. I think it was played at Prarie dunes in Kansas.

OSU is a very deserving champion and I'm not trying to take anything away from them but this is something that really needs to be changed. And yes, they were probably the best team in the country this year. At least for the majority of the season.

 

 

Edit: I went back and looked and I believe you meant 2011 when Reed was at Aug st. 

I also noticed that OK st has hosted 3 times in the last 15 years. Once every 5 years is a lot. 

[Undershooter]

Scripted? So all of the other players from other teams decided to throw all of their matches? Cmon dude

To clarify, I'm certainly not saying it was scripted lol

 

I just don't think schools should host it is all. 

[Wedgie]

When was the decision made to play at OSU? If the Vikings beat the Eagles in the NFC Championship game the Super Bowl is in Minnesota. The decision where to play the SB is made Year's in advance. If that is the case here whatcha gonna do?

 

 

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[Kor.A.Door]

The sites are chosen a year or so in advance. Yes some neutral sites can and probably should be used for the National championships. Why not use pebble beach, Harbortown, or a myriad of different locations for this event. Why are they using anyone's home course for a the national championships. Why not pick a venue and keep it there. They don't play Basketball championships at someone's home court, they don't play football championships at someone home field, they play those at major sports venues. Find a great course in a great location and have it there every year.

[RoverRick]

I am an Aggie fan and OSU beat them in the first round.

 

I, unfortunately, have been home all week and watched most of this once it got to the team match play. At first I thought it was unfair, and admit OSU had an advantage. But it's not like Bama had never seen the course. They played 4 rounds of individual stroke play BEFORE the team match play.

 

OSU have been number 1 all year long and they played like they were number 1.

 

Yes, it would be nice if it was a neutral site, but those Cowboys made some golf shots. And they were expected to win and preformed under the pressure to win.

 

 

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[Undershooter]

Hosting does not equate winning. Since 1939, only one other time has the host team won (2016 Oregon).

 

While it hasn't happened a ton, the host team has won 7 times since 1939.

 

I wonder how many times the team that hosts the national championship have made it through regionals. And how they collectively fared when they got back home. It would be interesting numbers to see. 

[HeathS16]

As a resident Okie I'll say Karsten is a supreme course, high school state is held there pretty much every year. It is a cool experience and great advertising for Oklahoma golf. Big 12 with back-to-back titles . While it certainly didn't hurt OSU to be at their home course I think it's one of the cool things about college athletics to see your school do well and have an opportunity to cheer them on. Pebble and HarborTown get PGA Tour play the NCAA can showcase other courses in other areas by hosting their championships at less high profile places. Honestly I think it's good for golf! Idk, I didn't mind it and I'm an OU fan that says a lot!

 

 

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[palvord]

While it hasn't happened a ton, the host team has won 7 times since 1939.

 

I wonder how many times the team that hosts the national championship have made it through regionals. And how they collectively fared when they got back home. It would be interesting numbers to see. 

I must have missed the other times that the host team won.  Thanks for the updated stats. 

[RoverRick]

While it hasn't happened a ton, the host team has won 7 times since 1939.

 

I wonder how many times the team that hosts the national championship have made it through regionals. And how they collectively fared when they got back home. It would be interesting numbers to see. 

 

I'm not sure you can count all the way back to 1939. This is a different format and only goes back to 2009. That means that only Oregon has won on their home turf.

 

OSU played on their home turf in 2011 and were defeated in the Semi's. So while they had the advantage this week, the bottom line is they stepped up and made the shots.