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I here you, but you all should be aware, the most recent testing Precision Pro NX7 was open to International, and there wasn't one International entry that met the basic requirements.   So while we will continue to keep them in mind when the OEM opens it to International, the chances of it being all international are pretty slim.    Just my current .02, not an official declaration. 

 

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No they were all US, well One HI, but that still counts as the US.  There was indeed  an  Australia tester selected however in the  G700 irons,  previous to this one. 

 

Ah...that might have been it.  I knew that it recently happened....  and I think a while back Kanoito (or something like that) was selected in Germany for something....

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Greetings gang ...

 

I want to place this thread up here so we can clarify a few things about our Community Forum Review program, particularly when it comes to international testing. 

 

We sincerely wish every review opportunity could be open to the entire planet, but often the OEM's have separate and individual divisions around the world, and one marketing department has different plans and goals from another. For example - Wilson Golf in North America ISN'T Wilson Golf UK, which ISN'T Wilson Golf Germany. Even though it's essentially the same company, they have their own sandbox in which they play, with their own goals and marketing programs.

 

We wish it were different, but alas, it's not our call.

 
Some have complained that we ignore the rest of the planet, which isn't really accurate. We've had several worldwide review opportunities over the past few years, ranging from PING to Bettinardi to ShotScope to ACCRA to many others, and we'll have more in the coming weeks. 
 
Lastly, and this one's kind of important - applying isn't the same thing as chosen, and entering doesn't mean you will be chosen. We'll get well over 1,000 applicants for the Mizuno driver review opportunity, for example, with only 4 drivers available, so....do the math!
 
Thanks for being a loyal reader and I very much hope you'll keep reading. We firmly believe - and I'm confident many of you will agree - there's more to MGS than just a .004% chance of being chosen to test a driver.   ;)

 

 

 

a neat thing might be to have an "international only" / "non-US" testing opportunity.

that way the overseas guys & gals don't feel cheated and we get some different - and maybe unique - testing results here in the US.  Just an idea.

 

Then the people in the US would just complain. You can't satisfy everyone, and that's not MGS' job.

 

I agree with you, but do you know how many people in the US would whine and complain. e.g There is no reason to discriminate against people living in the US.

 

I can't get stuff shipped to Hawaii that I'm WILLING TO PAY for, that's a real complaint. Whining that you're not eligible to be selected to be a forum tester, just makes it clear that you're only here for free gear. The fact that this thread had to be made is crazy in itself. Byproduct of the best MF forums on the internet blowing up I guess?

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Ah...that might have been it. I knew that it recently happened.... and I think a while back Kanoito (or something like that) was selected in Germany for something....

Indeed. My last review was the Shot Scope V1 :) last year though...

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This thread is almost as funny as the 'win an Odyssey putter' thread. Mods can we merge both of them into the 'what's your best joke' thread??

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No they were all US, well One HI, but that still counts as the US.  There was indeed  an  Australia tester selected however in the  G700 irons,  previous to this one. 

 

 

And I know for a fact he's still got a smile on his face.

 

My problem has been I'm too stupid to read the intro properly, and don't see if it's limited. The Precision Pro thread was really obvious that it was an international opportunity, which was great. 

 

I don't see any need for international only opportunities, mind you,something like the Cobra Connect Challenge in a Ryder/President's Cup type split could be fun to watch.

 

I imagine the vast majority of forum participants are from the USA. Maybe we can get MGS Stud to mine some data (now there's a challenge) to show where active members are from. I'm pretty sure there are more from Ohio than everywhere outside USA/Canada.

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I imagine the vast majority of forum participants are from the USA. Maybe we can get MGS Stud to mine some data (now there's a challenge) to show where active members are from. I'm pretty sure there are more from Ohio than everywhere outside USA/Canada.

That may be a little bit outside of my access to the forum. Would need to be able to extract. I'd bet Big Tazz may be able to whip something up with his member map. Can't imagine there's too many inactive entries on that bad boy.

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(Good stuff snipped)

 

The fact that this thread had to be made is crazy in itself. Byproduct of the best MF forums on the internet blowing up I guess?

Yep, when you get 30,000 people together the are bound to be idiots, complainers, obviously some people here for free stuff.

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Yep, when you get 30,000 people together the are bound to be idiots, complainers, obviously some people here for free stuff.

60,000!!!

 

 

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60,000!!!

 

 

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thats a lot of folks expecting “free stuff”

 

 

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thats a lot of folks expecting “free stuff”

 

 

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Yea and the thing being its not exactly free.   There is a great deal of work that goes with "free stuff".  

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I here you, but you all should be aware, the most recent testing Precision Pro NX7 was open to International, and there wasn't one International entry that met the basic requirements. So while we will continue to keep them in mind when the OEM opens it to International, the chances of it being all international are pretty slim. Just my current .02, not an official declaration.

I would have applied but I was already blessed with the Shot Scope V2 test. Don't forget that there are three international tester for that one.

 

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Yea and the thing being its not exactly free. There is a great deal of work that goes with "free stuff".

100% right on but all that is seen or expected is Free Stuff.

 

 

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You guys are killing it.

 

Barbajo should send out a prize for the best response.

 

 

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I don't see any need for international only opportunities, mind you,something like the Cobra Connect Challenge in a Ryder/President's Cup type split could be fun to watch.

 

 

 

Count me in for a Presidents cup style test!!

 

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Yea and the thing being its not exactly free.   There is a great deal of work that goes with "free stuff".  

 

Yep lots of work but also a great excuse to play more golf. "I have to play Honey, the forum is expecting quality and I can't let them down"

 

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Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :srixon-small: Z U85 2 Iron
Irons:     :titelist-small: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300
  :titelist-small: T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300
Wedges:               Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: 2 Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1x

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Yep lots of work but also a great excuse to play more golf. "I have to play Honey, the forum is expecting quality and I can't let them down"

Ideas man!

 

I'm only playing for the benefit of others. It probably won't fly, but I'll try it anyway.

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Ideas man!

 

I'm only playing for the benefit of others. It probably won't fly, but I'll try it anyway.

Try it you might be surprised.  My fiance is HUGE on people meeting their obligations, so everytime I'm chosen to test something, she's checking up on me to make sure i'm doing enough testing for it and meeting the stage deadline...ha  

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Oh Steve you don't know how to read do you?

 

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Me Nõ Habla Inglés, Espanõ solamente!

Is that Spanish for Odyssey putter?

 

 

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Is that Spanish for Odyssey putter?

 

 

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Please direct him to the odyssey putter thread!

 

 

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Steve

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103 mph

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No possible way this can be for real.  Even my 8 year old nephew knows international means not in the USA. 

 

I fear for the future.

 

 

 

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Well at least when I'm down I can always pull up a few of these testing threads to get a good chuckle.

 

I'm guessing Steve in Florida is probably going to be complaining about not ever winning these darn testing opportunities pretty soon.....

 

 

 

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Hi 

As an international 'independent' forum I think you should not be allowing the manufacturers any say in the testing process...otherwise this potentially taints the results, IMHO. While the golfing companies may try to skew the results for their own marketing bias, you could point out that, at least for most of the medium to large manufacturers, they are selling clubs globally, not just the USA.

Golf is an international sport played around the world and continually for the 12 months of the year. I would challenge you on the number of 'international' tests vs USA (or mainland America) tests.

While I appreciate the enormity of the numbers regarding testers vs equipment available the up front rule is the issue...not the fact that for example only 4 clubs are available for 1000 requests...I don't expect to get picked, but I would at least like to have the oppurtunity.

If shipping is the issue you could offer testing to international testers with a deal where they would pay for all or part of the shipping cost.

As an Australian golfer we play year round in many different conditions and I would have thought getting as many differences into your test data would only improve your results.

Please consider you international readers for your testing

Regards
Chris

 

 

 

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Hi 

As an international 'independent' forum I think you should not be allowing the manufacturers any say in the testing process...otherwise this potentially taints the results, IMHO. While the golfing companies may try to skew the results for their own marketing bias, you could point out that, at least for most of the medium to large manufacturers, they are selling clubs globally, not just the USA.

Golf is an international sport played around the world and continually for the 12 months of the year. I would challenge you on the number of 'international' tests vs USA (or mainland America) tests.

While I appreciate the enormity of the numbers regarding testers vs equipment available the up front rule is the issue...not the fact that for example only 4 clubs are available for 1000 requests...I don't expect to get picked, but I would at least like to have the oppurtunity.

If shipping is the issue you could offer testing to international testers with a deal where they would pay for all or part of the shipping cost.

As an Australian golfer we play year round in many different conditions and I would have thought getting as many differences into your test data would only improve your results.

Please consider you international readers for your testing

Regards
Chris

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