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Now here's one of the best irons ever made. Mr. Ben Hogan always had his clubs built to the highest tolerances. I'm not sure if that's why they failed of if tradition just went out the window as the winds of changes have arrived for this sport. but to get back to the irons my first set of irons that I actually bought were Ben Hogan Edge CB's. All I can remember when I was playing with my buddies who were all using Tommy Armour 845's the difference in sound and ball flight was tremendous. My friends all thought I had an advantage. Now I was a younger man at the time I was either playing a Maxfli HT 100 or a Titleist Professional 90. They were my two favorite golf balls. But I can remember playing short par 4's hitting 5 iron off the tee and hitting the ball 220-230. My friends would try the same thing with there irons and be 30 yards behind me. They were so solid. The guy frequency matched the shafts pinned the shafts in the hosel which was always exciting if you didn't know what was happening when you tried to pull your first Hogan shaft. My point is HOGAN represented quality when it came to irons. Now they were bought up by Callaway and I think they just watched MR. Hogan ROLL OVER in his grave so to speak! It's very Sad. I think the last guys out their playing HOGAN are/were Bernhard Langer and Justin Lenard. I just miss seeing their presence on the TOUR! OK I'm done!! :angry: :(

 

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I will admit that by virtue of my age and my coming to the game of golf a bit late, I was never really aware of the Hogan brand as a top shelf manufacturer. That said, I am very involved in many golf forums now and have been overwhelmed by how passionate so many people are about their Hogan irons. If even half the stories that I've read about the quality of the Hogan brand are true, then it is very sad that it has gone down in the way that it has.

 

Slightly OT: I'm reading "Ben Hogan: An American Life" right now and it's pretty interesting. It's a bit hero worship-y at times, but that's to be expected in a sports bio. The man overcame very serious adversity to rise to the heights that he did.


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I am 25 but have been avd playing since i was 5 tournaments in the summer sometimes 10-30 from 8-18 but i remember kids having them and wanting them for myself, lefty and lets say used what i was given, but ur right kinda like an old friend diasappearing from existence.


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Kind of how the equipment game seems to go though. Some lines/names gain strength while others fade. Using the Hogan name with junky equipment is shady though. I have probably watched his swing on youtube 1000 times. That fluidity and grace deserves a better legacy imho.


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playing a Maxfli HT 100 or a Titleist Professional 90.

 

Oh yeah..I miss those days. I had a set of Hogan blades and played the Tour Balata and then the Professional 90 and that is a "feel" I would love to have back. Nothing like it in the world.

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Back in the mid 80's, I had several friends who played the Hogan Apex irons.....and they were awesome clubs....both in looks & feel.

 

I must admit, I have not heard or read much about the Hogan line in the past few years.

 

If Callaway did purchase them, then maybe they also can resurrect them in the future.

 

I know Golfsmith purchased the McGregor line and they hope to make it more than a basic ctore brand line.


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Callaway never had the intention of restoring the Hogan company to its former glory. I think Callaway basically bought the name thinking they could turn out some so-so blades and generate cash behind the Hogan name and many customers knowing that Callaway was backing them financially. That probably didn't turn out like they expected. They also may have just bought the company in fear of a competitor buying it and using it well and boosting their sales.

 

 

 

 

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Callaway never had the intention of restoring the Hogan company to its former glory. I think Callaway basically bought the name thinking they could turn out some so-so blades and generate cash behind the Hogan name and many customers knowing that Callaway was backing them financially. That probably didn't turn out like they expected. They also may have just bought the company in fear of a competitor buying it and using it well and boosting their sales.

 

 

 

 

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I'm not sure that Callaway had any fear of Hogan. There were far stronger competitors in the marketplace than Hogan, even when the Hogan name was at its recent peak. I do, however, believe that Hogan offered a quality line of forged irons to compliment Callaway's then-current products. Callaway had the financial ability to take Hogan to the next level in terms of marketing. In the end, Callaway must have decided that the name recognition in their branding was stronger than Hogan and focused its effort on the Callaway line and, unfortunately for us, let the Hogan product slowly die out. They initially did try to put out some drivers and woods under the Hogan monicker but we all know how poorly that turned out.


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Hogan is as dead as MacGregor and Maxfli. I can see the name being used to sell box sets in Walmart or Dicks


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Hogan is as dead as MacGregor and Maxfli. I can see the name being used to sell box sets in Walmart or Dicks

Ouch. Seeing that would bring more tears than usual as I am dragged through Walmart.


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Not saying I like it. I hated typing it as much as you hated reading it. I just don't how it can go any other way, if Callaway aren't going to invest any time of R&D in the brand.


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Not saying I like it. I hated typing it as much as you hated reading it. I just don't how it can go any other way, if Callaway aren't going to invest any time of R&D in the brand.

it is a shame. I just finished the book where the player wanders through the fog to a golf Valhalla where Hogan is blasting balls trying to find his moment. (Title escapes me.)

That is how I see Hogan, not in Walmart.


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Obviously the Hogan brand was synonymous with excellence 15 years ago. Today, it is a defunct club company whose name has been purchased by an industry behemoth, and bastardized. Unfortunately, today there are plenty of really good irons out there that will function better that an old set of Hogans with the golf ball we use today. There is just no reason other than nostalgia to play a set. JMO.


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Callaway never had the intention of restoring the Hogan company to its former glory. I think Callaway basically bought the name thinking they could turn out some so-so blades and generate cash behind the Hogan name and many customers knowing that Callaway was backing them financially. That probably didn't turn out like they expected. They also may have just bought the company in fear of a competitor buying it and using it well and boosting their sales.

 

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True that. Callaway killed the Hogan line. They treated it like a read headed step child and didn't pump any marketing dollars or R&D into the brand. Basically, they left all Hogan fans to twist in the wind.


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I agree, it's a shamed what they did to the line, they should have sold the rights to someone or a company who cared. Keep it small scale, custom, and attention to detail.


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What really sucks is that they had BenHogan.com which was nice and gave good info on all of the old Hogan clubs. They shut it down for a week and came back and just made it part of the Callaway pre-owned site. Jackals.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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What really sucks is that they had BenHogan.com which was nice and gave good info on all of the old Hogan clubs. They shut it down for a week and came back and just made it part of the Callaway pre-owned site. Jackals.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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That I did not know. At least they could have used the address to make a "About Hogan" page or something. Plaster it with adds for Diablo and whatever to get people to the Cally product.

Could be worse though, it could be a new line for QVC.


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Could be worse though, it could be a new line for QVC.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit..


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Driver -   Ping G410 Plus 9° Tour 65 S
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2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: Z785  TTDG IT S400 3,5-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX4 Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

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I've got 3 sets of Hogans ('63 IPTs, '67 Percussions and '83 Apex PCs)...I've been thinking in the future of buying a set of each of the good vintage blades and measuring their specs and putting the info on my blog. Hell, if Callaway doesn't care to, I'll do it myself.

 

 

 

 

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