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I've been on the receiving end at least 3 times I can recall while playing with my wife. One time was harmless - similar to your situation where a guy hit a monster drive and it rolled up behind us near the green.

 

But 2 other times I almost felt like pummeling the guy .. and I am NOT a confrontational person. Both times we were in clear sight in the fairway waiting to take our second shots (while each person in the group on the green does their extended green reading and looking up routines), and in both cases a tee shot landed dangerously close to my wife's head.........

 

So yeah it really sucks to be on the receiving end.

I actually hit a woman in the head once. It was probably 25 years ago. I was on the left side of the fairway and behind a tree and they putted out and were moving about 20 yards left of the green heading toward the next tee. I was trying to sling a hook around this tree so was looking away from them trying to start it way right and I didn't see them stop to write down their scores. I accidentally pull hooked it through the tree and right at their now stationary group I went "oh sh*t, fore FORE FORE LEFT!!" Everyone in their group ducked except the wife. She looked around to see who was yelling and it ricocheted off her shoulder and into the side of her head and she went down like a sack of potatoes, I took off running toward them to see if she was ok and her husband was screaming obsenities at me the whole time. Once she realized she was ok and it just glanced off her everyone cooled off but he was understandably not interested in my explanation. Yes, she should not have looked. They probably should not have stopped off the side of the green to mess with the scorecard. But I was the one in the wrong. I should have waited until they were safely out of range instead of just probably out of range, particularly since I was trying to hit a big curve. I've never hit it within 20 yards of anyone I can see since then and I never will. Scared me half to death in that moment where I might have killed someone because I was careless.
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It happened to me a few years ago. The group behind had been on our 6 for quite a while, but the course was crowded and there was no where to go. One of the trailing group hit up, and the ball rolled right next to me as I was ready to take my second shot. I stopped, looked at the guy then picked up his ball and chucked into a creek. No more problems, and when I saw the guy at the 19th after the round I sent him a drink.

 

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Recently I was playing a round and I hit up on a couple, I truly couldn't see them, maybe they were near a tree when I struck the ball. They were on a green 345 yards away. I hit it 314 short of the green 30 yds.

 

My question to all of you is, how far out there should you let people get before you feel it's safe, without being that guy/girl, that says, “I can hit them, I better wait.” —> then shank. Wouldn't you think that 300+ yards is plenty? It sucks to hear people complain when you hit a great shot and your up near somebody else by accident.

 

I'm having a hard time picturing this...they were behind a tree yet on the green at the same time? 

 

Regardless of them being outside your "average" drive, if you have ever hit a drive close to that far, you should wait out of curtesy. If you really want to hit and keep moving, play a different shot as BigtazzGolf suggested. 

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I've hit into people, also. It was never on purpose. Most of the time it's because I/we just don't see the them because they are over a hill that isn't visible from the tee box or they have spent an extraordinary amount of time in the woods looking for a ball, and I/we thought they were already on the next tee.

 

I wait on par 4's if they are anywhere around 300 yds. (I've gotten lucky a few times) total. Long par 4's of 350 and longer I/we go ahead and hit. Even on my best day with a 40 mph. wind at my back I can't hit 350...lol.

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I always wait until the group ahead is "out of range". However ironically in a tournament yesterday I was jacked up because I was having a great round and hit the longest drive of my life and it sailed right over the group and landed 10-15 yards passed them. They were pissed but I'm usually a 240 carry and they were at least 270-280 away from us. No way I thought I could carry 290 EVER, unless it was seriously windy. I guess now I know it can be done with a little adrenaline, lol. I was super apologetic and bought them drinks afterwards. (Birdied the hole though lol)

 

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I'm having a hard time picturing this...they were behind a tree yet on the green at the same time?

 

Regardless of them being outside your "average" drive, if you have ever hit a drive close to that far, you should wait out of curtesy. If you really want to hit and keep moving, play a different shot as BigtazzGolf suggested.

I think this is a hypothetical situation, he's asking how far away do you let the group in front of you get before hitting a tee shot.

 

I this situation, the hole is 345 and they group in from is on the green, I would hit. Chances are if it does reach them it will be rolling up, then you apologize with a goofy smirk for hitting a 345 yard drive.

There are times when all of us are playing where you think it's safe to hit then as you hit, a cart comes flying up out of a bowl or out from behind a tree. You apologize if it came close, If you know there is a group in front of you, then waiting is the key, at least wait until you see them to make sure. If the landing area is over a hill or something, it's always good policy to wait until you see them. Also a good idea is that if possible is to leave the cart in a spot that can be seen from the tee box.

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How many of you have laser rangefinders?  It serves multiple purposes, beyond hitting the flagstick for your distance.  If I am waiting on the group in front of me to clear, and I am not sure if they are far enough away, I hit them with the laser and until it reads 325 or more, then I wait, pure and simple.

 

My worst experience with hitting into someone came many many years ago on a course and place I can't honestly remember.  But I was waiting for a group to clear a par 4 green, and they were leaving the green, at their carts way left of the green, when I decided to go ahead and let er rip.  Of course, I hooked the shot right at their cart, left of the green.  Luckily the ball hit the tree above them and deflected away, but I learned my lesson that day.  Not only do you wait for the green to clear, but their carts are well beyond the hole before I launch one.

 

My home course has other issues with stray golf balls, as it is an older tighter course, where holes parallel each other many times, and you are often facing a group on an adjacent hole and are playing your ball from your fairway when you get the "FORE" yelled while you are hitting.  I've grown so used to wayward shots that I don't even look anymore or anything.  If I get hit because someone sliced it wickedly, then so be it.

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Forgive me golf gods for I have sinned. This is my first confession on this topic.

 

I hit OVER a group today. [emoji22]

 

Went out as a single. Spent the entire front 9 on the heels of a threesome. Thinking back to this thread, I used the sage wisdom to be patient and not rush them even though they had plenty of opportunity to let me through.

 

Hole 9 (pictured below) is a short-ish par 4 that turns left but the fairway dips into a deep valley at the bend. If you lay up off the tee, it's only like 150y but then 185y to the green. One yard past that and you've got an ugly downhill lie. One yard short and there's a tree in the way.

 

Laying up didn't work so well for me last time I played here so I pulled the big dog. Group leaving the green, wind in my face, I let it fly.

 

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As I crest the hill, I realize my mistake. Group 1, that I had been chasing, was still driving around looking for their balls. Group 2 was the group I saw leaving the green and I had only just become aware of their existence. Oops!!

 

I ran up to group 1 to apologize and (luckily) they had no idea I even hit up. I guess they got me back by accidentally playing my ball.

 

Fortunate enough for me, they were only playing 9 so I didn't need to endure the awkwardness of asking to play through after I rainbowed one over their heads.

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They didn't accidentally play your ball, they had no effing idea!! Just like 90% of the people clogging up the golf courses here. There is no accident about playing a ball that wasn't theirs! If they are driving around looking for golf balls, probably the .15¢ rack, they definitely could tell it wasn't their ball to hit. Especially if you were truvis'n it up.

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I usually trust my instinct on whether or not I feel they are far enough out of range visually. But when in doubt I just pull out my range finder and aim it at them to get a more accurate distance.

 

Even if I do end up hitting it up to them, I just apologize for misjudging.

 

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In answer to the OP, you need to account for your typical best.  In the case you stated, I tee off since 300 yards is beyond my capabilities - downhill with a tailwind.  I suspect all of us however are guilty of a second or third shot that gets close to or runs up onto the green with the group ahead still playing.  As a general rule, I just wait even though 7/10 times it's unlikely I really flush one.  On occasion, a playing partner might say "you should be OK to hit".  If I'm not comfortable with doing so, I don't. It's simply not worth the risk of someone getting hurt.

 

Then there are those who hit into the group ahead in order to send a message - speed up play.  Big no-no.  If I'm the recipient, the ensuing discussion will not be pleasant.

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Ahhh... perhaps I'm missing something. You hit the ball 314 yards and they were on the green 345 yards away. When I do that math you didn't hit into them. You didn't see them so perhaps a comment of "Sorry, I didn't see you," but that's not hitting into them as far as I'm concerned. If they were not on the green than that's different.

 

My group is one of the fastest playing groups on the course. We play ready golf and even without trying we complete a round in closer to 3 hours than 4 if no one is in front of us. This is why most of the other groups pick tee times right after us rather than before. They know we will not hold them up, but they will hold us up.

 

The general rule we go by is we do not tee off until they are on the green and don't hit our second shots until they are at the next tee box, even on par 5's unless it is a definite lay up. There are a number of blind tee shots on our course, and if you know someone is in front of you, you don't hit until you know where they are.

 

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