hckymeyer Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Official Forum Member Review - Shot Scope V2 mdumble21 Stage 1 Stage 2 JohnSmalls Stage 1 Stage 2 Nunfa0 Stage 1 Stage 2 perseveringgolfer Stage 1 Stage 2 Hi MGS - I completely forgot about a bonus review tester for this one. Forum member Evershady reviewed the original Shot Scope for us last year. You have find his Stage 1 HERE and Stage 2 HERE for that Shot Scope V1 review. Evershady chose to upgrade to the V2 system on his own dime when Shot Scope offered their upgrade program. He's asked if he could also do a review of the new one and give us a unique perspective of being able to compare the original to the new one. So I'm adding him in and once the stage 2 sections start going up he will add his own review as well. So thank you to Evershady for the bonus review and insights to the upgrades from V1 to V2. Evershady (bonus review) Stage 2 fozcycle, golferKen, JohnSmalls and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mdumble21 Posted June 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2018 MyGolfSpy Shot Scope V2 Stage 1 What's my story? I'm a 28 year-old from Perth, Australia. I've been playing this great game of ours on a consistent basis since 2012. My dad introduced (and coached) me to golf when I was at primary (elementary for you Americans) and high school, at the local par 3 golf course. I started playing properly in 2012 when I began playing regularly with some work colleagues. I love the game of golf purely because one day you could be playing absolutely crap, and the next you could be beating your all-time best score. It's a game where you're more playing against yourself than others or even the course itself, and it's a game for anyone - be they young, old, man or woman or unspecified gender. The Golf Questions I play off a 6 handicap, with my average score being roughly 80. I tend to hit driver about 270-280yd and 7-iron about 160-170yd. For the most part, I base those numbers off what I've seen on the course (ignoring wind, ground conditions and other factors of course). And in terms of tracking performance, I normally have a rough mental idea of what went wrong/right during my round. Whenever something does go catastrophically wrong (i.e. poor putting/chipping), I'll usually spend a good portion of my next range session focusing on this aspect. However, because I work FIFO (Fly In, Fly Out) at a mine site for every second week, I don't have as much time to focus on my golf. The main weakness of my game is my short game & bunker play, which I don't always practice. Occasionally, my driving will give me grief as well, with my miss tending to be a push right off the tee. My main strengths are my ball-striking and iron play, which are things I do tend to focus on during practice sessions. Whilst I'm not the most tech-savvy guy around, I do know my way around computers. I grew up using Windows software as a kid, and I use computers a lot in my current line of work. My current club set-up is: Titleist 915 D3 driver - had this in the bag for 1.5 years now, and I'm thinking of upgrading! Callaway Epic Sub Zero 3 wood - enjoy the feel off the face, and how easy it is to shape off the deck & tee box Callaway Apex 20 Degree Hybrid - swap between this and my 3 iron for different course set-ups. PING i200s (4-PW, Yellow dot) - tested these for MyGolfSpy last year and haven't looked back! Titleist Vokey SM6 50 degree wedge - replaces my 5 year-old Callaway MD2 wedge Callaway MD4 & MD2 wedges - 56 (MD4) & 60 degree (MD2) Taylormade TP Collection Soto - great feeling putter that often gets mistaken for a Scotty Newport! First Impressions In terms of first impressions, I liked the functionality of the packaging as it did indeed tell me what the Shot Scope was capable of with regards to its compatibility with Apple, Android and its library of worldwide golf courses. I hate packaging that has too many facts and graphics on them, whereas I found the Shot Scope's packaging to be smart and not overwhelming. Initial set-up and registration were easy thanks to the handy User Guide included in the package (which I've now lost, but more on that later), and it only took me an hour to get the online registration, my preferences, and the club tags fitted. After I completed my profile on the Shot Scope app and website, I did notice two things that did bug me a bit. The first of these was the size of the Shot Scope watch itself. When I put the watch on for the first time, I did notice that it was a bit big for my wrist, and that the wristband was a little bulky. I know people who use GPS watches that are the size of an Apple iWatch (and smaller), whereas the Shot Scope is roughly double that size - which could possibly be attributed to the additional club tracking chips and software. Whilst the size of the watch will take a bit of time to get used to, I know that the next generation or so will streamline this design in the future. The Shot Scope system uses assigned tags (labelled D, 3W, H1, H2, 3i-9i, PW, GW, SW, LW, P(utter), X1-4) for particular clubs in your bag. During the registration process, you come across My Bag in the dashboard, where you simply identify the club that a particular club tag goes to. When I put the tags onto their assigned clubs, I noticed that the screws they use to hold onto the top of the club were bigger than the holes they go into. Whilst this means that it's going to be hard for the tag to come loose mid-swing, I fear that the top of the grip could be ruined if you try and pull the tag off. This situation could arise from simply re-gripping the club or when you need to buy a new club. I firmly believe that the Shot Scope will be a helpful tool for an amateur golfer like me. I've been using a dedicated GPS unit (not a watch) for a few years now, which has been working well most of the time. Whilst a GPS unit would give me relevant distances, the Shot Scope can give me post-round club data (i.e. club distances), whereas previously I'd be getting calculating distances in my head. Once I get a decent idea of my club distances using a combination of the tracking data and my personal experiences, I can use this information to better plot my way around a golf course. Whilst Stage 1 has focused mainly on my first impressions of the Shot Scope product, I will be using Stage 2 to see how it compares with my GPS unit on the course. At the time of writing this article, I've only used the Shot Scope once for 9 holes at my home course, so by the time that I've uploaded Stage 2, I should be used to the gadget. During my review, I will be focusing on the ease of use of this product. Considering the fact that I'll be using this watch during a round of golf, how much more time will it add to the round? How convenient is it? Will the post-round data be useful? And considering its size, will I be aware of its presence during a game? These will be the questions, and more, that I will be addressing throughout my Stage 2 review. If any fellow Spies have any questions you'd like me to answer in my Stage 2, please feel free to write them down in the comments section below. ole gray, Nunfa0, MDGolfHacker and 9 others 12 Quote Driver: Cobra F9 Speedback (9.0) with Fujikura Atmos 7X (Avalanche White) 3 Wood: Callaway Epic Sub-Zero (15 degrees) in Rogue Max 75g stiff shaft Hybrid (not in play): Callaway Apex 20 degree with Kurokage 80g Stiff Shaft Driving Iron: Wilson Staff Utility Iron 18 degree with KBS Hybrid Stiff shaft Irons: Wilson Staff CB 4-PW in KBS 120 Stiff shafts Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 - 50; Callaway MD4 - 56; Vokey SM9 - 60 Putter: Taylormade Rossa CGB Golf Ball: Srixon Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdumble21 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Shot Scope V2 Stage Two Review {20/8/2018} By mdumble21 (Matt Dumble) Well, it's been 2 months since I got the Shot Scope V2 watch, and so far it's been an interesting relationship. I've played 6 rounds with the watch over this period of time. Normally I'd play 2-3 times a week, but the weather's been atrocious (it's winter over here) and I work half the time, so I've been struggling to find the time to play. Whenever I do find the time to play and test out the watch, I've been focusing on 3 main things - how the watch feels on my wrist, its ease of use and how it compares to my GPS unit. Looks & Feel (5 out of 10 points) When I first saw the Shot Scope V2 watch in the plastic flesh, I was a little unimpressed with its overall look and size. I was expecting something closer in size to a Garmin GPS running watch (which I own and use on a frequent basis), whereas the V2 watch was about 20% bigger. In terms of feel, the watch felt as big as it looked. Where the Garmin watch had a shape that tried to conform to your wrist, the V2 increased size and stiff (in comparison) band made it difficult to fit to my (quite thin) wrist. Hopefully in the future, the watch will become smaller as the technology produces smaller chips, etc. The overall bulk and look of the watch would make it a nuisance to wear on a daily basis - I don't usually wear a watch anyway. Build quality is somewhere that the V2 goes gain some points, as I have yet to see any cracks or scratches anywhere on the watch over the past 2 months. Whilst I do think that the watch will get a bit dinged up over time, it won't be happening for a while. Setup (9 out of 10 points) I found the Shot Scope V2 watch to be quite easy to initially set-up. Whilst it wasn't straightforward, the instructional guide made it extremely easy to set-up your Shot Scope account, My Bag, as well as syncing your watch with your favourite courses. The only problem I had with the set-up was when I lost the Quick Guide out on my first round with the watch. Fortunately the Shot Scope Set-Up and FAQ were easy to understand and answered any of my questions. Installation on my laptop was fairly easy, although it did struggle to download as it's an iMac rather than a traditional laptop (I've had that problem with other apps so I don't mind it). Downloading it onto my iPhone was much easier and very quick. On-Course (8 out of 20 points) Out on the course, I found that the watch didn't really affect my swing, although it would occasionally put me off as I never worn a watch whilst playing golf before. Most of the time the V2 didn't really impact my game, apart from when I had to do the Pin Collect. Pin Collect is the system that Shot Scope uses to measure your putting stats, and in order to accurately enter your putts and the location of the hole. There were quite a few occasions where I simply forgot to enter my putting data and would have to edit it on the computer post-round. I can see this being an issue if you are playing with certain kinds of golfers, as they will view the action as you wasting time on the course. Whilst the above problems can be annoyances, I can easily see me getting used to them over time and I will have to incorporate them into my usual golf routine. There are 3 modes that you can activate in the Shot Scope V2: GPS - Just gives you distances to the green, bunkers and hazards Pro - Only tracks your club distances GPS + Pro - Gives you distances and tracks your club distances as well I've only used the GPS and GPS+Pro modes as I was comparing the distance accuracy of the watch versus my GPS unit. Overall, I found these modes quite easy to use, with the only problem being that the watch took a little bit longer to find tracking satellites than my GPS unit, but only by a minute at most. In terms of a comparison, there are a few differences between my GPS and the V2 watch: My GPS gave a detailed map of the hole, whereas the GPS only gave me numbers for the green, bunkers and hazards. The GPS is bulkier than the watch (obviously), meaning I have to pull it out of my bag rather than just glancing at my wrist. The GPS had access to more courses, particularly in Australia as well as having a few specialty courses already uploaded (e.g. Augusta and Le Golf National) However, both the GPS and the V2 had the option to ask for additional courses via their respective websites so this isn't really a deal breaker. One thing to note is that my home course is a 9 hole course with 2 separate tee boxes on every hole, which is fine for if I use the V2 watch's GPS mode. However, one of the holes has 2 separate greens (for the 5th and 14th holes respectively) making it look like the letter Y from above. Neither my GPS unit or the V2 watch recognise the 14th hole as a separate hole, which isn't a problem on GPS mode as there are distance markings on sprinkler heads. Unfortunately, in order for me to properly record an 18 hole round at my home course, I'd have to record 2 separate rounds (one for each 9), as well as edit in the stats for the 14th hole when I finish which is fairly inconvenient. Accuracy (9 out of 10 points) In order to measure the accuracy of the V2 watch, I've compared it with my GPS unit, as well as a friend's rangefinder. In terms of accuracy, the V2 watch produces numbers that match my GPS unit, and are similar to the ones given by a rangefinder. In the case of the rangefinder, it was giving numbers for the pin position, rather than the front and back of the green like for the other two. Dashboard Interface (7 out of 10 points) I found the Dashboard interface to be interesting to say the least. The set-up for both the desktop and my mobile was extremely easy and straightforward. The desktop app did work well for a while, but it soon starting not being to recognise me plugging my watch in to upload any new rounds. This was becoming a big problem for me, as at one stage I had 3 rounds of data on my watch that hadn't been uploaded correctly. Luckily for me, the mobile app got around this problem by simply using a Bluetooth interface rather than the physical cable. The Dashboard on the mobile app was better than the desktop one as you could accurately view and change your information. This precision became in particularly handy whenever I needed to enter in the correct pin position for my putting data (this happened a few times). Whilst the desktop app is quite immersive, it would be better off with the editing feature as it's something that a lot of customers would use. Apart from that little issue, the Dashboard presented any and all of my data in an easy-to-understand fashion and with some brief explanations when needed. Data Usefulness (12 out of 20 points) Diving deeper into the various features of the Dashboard, it quickly became obvious that you needed to be quite knowledgeable of how the stats were calculated in order to understand them properly. I found the charts and graphics to be a bit overwhelming in some cases - this isn't really a criticism, but rather something to keep in mind when you properly analyse your data. One thing I did notice is that the majority of my club distances were out by a measure of 10m (11yd), which I quickly worked out was due to the fact that I play a lot of hilly golf courses resulting in lower average distances. Whilst the watch is great for measuring distances, it still doesn't take into account a 10 degree incline, for example. Apart from that, my club gapping seemed to be fairly accurate, with 10m gaps between the irons. Whilst the Dashboard feature was well-presented, and gave brief explanations on the stats, I don't think it's something I would be using on a routinely basis. I'm simply not that much of a stats guy, so viewing the sheer volume of data that the V2 watch produces very quickly goes over my head. Play it or Trade it? (7 out of 20 points) The Shot Scope V2 watch is a device that I see being used by the kind of golfer who knows what his stats are, and how he can use them to his advantage. Unfortunately, I'm not one of those golfers. Whilst I do see the benefits of knowing my Greens in Regulations and number of putts per round, the sheer volume of data and stats produced by the watch through its Dashboard interface can easily go over your head. As a result of this, I would likely trade the V2 watch for something else. Not because it's a bad device (because it's not!), but rather because it's not something I can see myself using on a round-to-round basis. Conclusion The Shot Scope V2 watch is a fantastic device that enables the average golfer to gather helpful information on not only their club distances, but their accuracy and misses as well. Whilst the V2 watch is a great device, it isn't without its flaws. The overall size of the watch is a tad bulky; the GPS tags can be a bit difficult to secure to your clubs (and you could risk damaging your grips if you try and remove them); the Dashboard interface can be overwhelming to the average hacker; and you may need to change your routine in order to properly use the watch whilst out on the course. Despite all this, the V2 watch is quite accurate, and the Dashboard interface can be helpful if you know what you're doing. Therefore, I would recommend the V2 watch to the golfer who can properly use the Dashboard to improve their overall game (unlike myself, who simply gets overwhelmed by the data overload). Final Score: 57 out of 100 perseveringgolfer, Har in the Hat, Golfspy_CG2 and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: Cobra F9 Speedback (9.0) with Fujikura Atmos 7X (Avalanche White) 3 Wood: Callaway Epic Sub-Zero (15 degrees) in Rogue Max 75g stiff shaft Hybrid (not in play): Callaway Apex 20 degree with Kurokage 80g Stiff Shaft Driving Iron: Wilson Staff Utility Iron 18 degree with KBS Hybrid Stiff shaft Irons: Wilson Staff CB 4-PW in KBS 120 Stiff shafts Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 - 50; Callaway MD4 - 56; Vokey SM9 - 60 Putter: Taylormade Rossa CGB Golf Ball: Srixon Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Hi, I am John! This is an incredible opportunity! Thank you MGS mods for entrusting me with a chance to be an official tester and provide the best knowledge I can to the forum. Thank you also to ShotScope for finding value in the work that MGS does to even offer this opportunity. Most importantly thank you to the forum spies that have been active and made this a respected place to read reviews and for the high quality of work that you have done for these opportunities to continue to exist. I am a retired baseball player and one of “those millennialsâ€. I currently live in York, SC and play most of my golf at Spring Lake CC. Outside of golf, I am very, very blessed to spend my days working my dream job in the financial world at a firm that is ironically full of golfers. I am from a family of Clemson graduates, hence the AVI. But, I broke family tradition and took my studies to Erskine College. Bonus points if you have heard of the name of the town Erskine is in (before looking it up). Growing up I enjoyed keeping an eye on golf and loved the Tiger Woods video game franchise, gave golf a try in my very early teens but never really enjoyed playing. My clubs didn't so much as get taken out of my bag through my late high school years but I kept them for the social aspect and played maybe two rounds a year in college. Though I did not care to play I did read about golf a little bit and watch the major tournaments through all of those years. Fast forward a few years into my adult life I find this website called MGS with a really interesting article on ProV vs KSig golf balls (turns out to be more than an article). A few more months go by and I end up playing golf with a client on our annual Feb/March Hack-a-Round. For the first time in my life, I enjoyed a round of golf. After that golf outing, I remember MGS, go to read more articles while deciding to play more golf. The bug bit by March 2017, I joined the forum soon after, managed to notch 40 something rounds last year and now I spend every last second I can trying to learn more about this crazy sport. My personal game is a mixed bag of tricks. Stubbornly I thought that I could teach myself and after refusing lessons for 8-9 months I finally gave in. I spent this winter and now spring in the midst fixing bad habits and learning about the actual golf swing. Post “rebuild†I currently play to a stabilizing 25, and it finally appears to be trending downward again. My miss is still a huge balloon-ey slice or a fat iron that digs halfway to China, with the occasional toe-y dead duck hook when I am getting tired. Long clubs have become a much greater asset and am generally hitting these well. Off the tee I have been around 255-260. I am beginning to see how to flight the ball low and high, but for the time being I am working on being a consistent ball striker. My irons have become a huge weakness but through the lessons and video review, I have learned the main reason of why my irons are a remake of Jekyll and Hyde. A good 7 iron is in the mid 150s and sometimes finding the low 160's. Full swings with my wedges have made a dramatic improvement and have become a strength, but around the greens has been a weakness. I think a little lefty imagination and practice will fix that. Flatstick performance is pretty average. I tend to hover around a 2 putt. A seemingly rare good day will leave me in the low 90's with the typical mixed day hovering right around 100, and add 10+ strokes for when all *&$# breaks loose (bad decisions and bad ball striking are a deadly cocktail). With this new and improved swing to go with data tracking, I am aiming at hitting or breaking 90 by October. Last year was largely an MGS most wanted bag, but my current WITB is a Nike Tribute (after I realized they actually made good clubs). All shafts except wedges are Reg flex---this might need to change. Nike Vapor Fly Pro @10.5 Diamana Blue Nike Covert 2.0 fairway metals, Kuro Kage Black Nike Vapor Speed Irons 4-PW, Ping Glide 52ss,56es,60ss, Nike Method Origin B2-01 Counter Balance I currently track my yardages loosely with a Garmin Approach S3 and log my stats with a flawless system (written on scorecards/locked in my beartrap memory). The tech geek in me really likes the idea of detailed shot tracking/analytics. Although, I have not implemented shot tracking into my game yet because I have been wary of: the fear of slowing the pace of play, having to remember to tag clubs before every shot(game golf), the perceived bulkiness of a “satellite†on your wrist (ShotScope), the detailed putting inaccuracy with Arccos, always having to have a fully charged phone on you (Arccos)---two year old iPhone batteries are about as useful as a two legged chair, and quite honestly I thought I was not good enough for shot tracking to help me (the utter brilliance in that thought). Stupid fears aside, getting ShotScope in the mail was like having Christmas in June. I am still this excited. I have had a few instances speaking with ShotScope support via email (home course not listed in their database for one), and it seems like they reply before I even click send on my email to them. Even with the predominant use of plastic in the watch and all of the sensors, the overall quality of the product is first class. Initially I was worried about the size being larger than my Garmin, but come to find out it takes up the same real estate on my arm and the ShotScope is a hair thinner. The band is more robust and the ShotScope is a more comfortable device than the Garmin. The additional clip on the end of the band just cleans up the strap and keeps excess length out of the way. I can't say enough about how well the ShotScope fits. Setup is very simple and well outlined in the provided documentation. Charge the watch, connect it to your phone via Bluetooth to the provided app OR to your PC via provided USB cable, download the courses you play to the watch from your phone or PC, screw the sensors into the bottom of your grips and off you go. Once you get to your course, press the top right button on the watch/choose your data collection mode, your course and shot scope gets to work. I worried about the tags coming off in the bottom of my Ogio Silencer since my clubs “clip†into the bottom of the bag, but the sensors don't so much as wiggle—perfect! Despite the initial high praises, I came across a problem with playing a counterbalance putter because there is no hole in the grip for the sensor. Remedy: cut the threaded screw off and use an adhesive to stick the sensor on the club OR just don't use a sensor. I learned from ShotScope support that you don't need a putter sensor. The watch automatically knows you are on a green and asks to “pin collect†or ShotScope lingo for how many putts did you have? (You will have to go in after your round and edit putt distances if you don't use a sensor). This for now is a minor annoyance. This system is going to get a workout from steady diet of penalty strokes, lost balls, and whatever other way my crazy golf game throws at it. I wonder if it will call home if I get lost in the woods? I have 100% faith in data analytics in helping teach me about my game and understanding where I can improve. But can ShotScope truly track data without you noticing? Has ShotScope built a device that is intuitive and easy to use on the course? What about the online display of statistics? Is it simple and easy to use off of the golf course? What does ShotScope do well? Not do well? Will the ShotScope system be able to provide answers to help improve a seasoned scratch player AND a high handicap newbie? Stay tuned! *This is a live look at your four testers over the next month. mdumble21, HardcoreLooper, TSauer and 6 others 9 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Stage Two - The Review {9/12/18} Shot Scope V2 – Official MGS Forum Review by JohnSmalls Intro And we're back! These past few months have been a whirlwind both on and off of the course; but it has been an honor to test Shot Scope for the MGS community. Thank you very much guys for your trust and patience! I tested the Shot Scope system by the very scientific method of playing golf to a high handicap which equals a lot of swings from less than desirable locations. I tested the system on previously charted courses and courses that had to be newly uploaded. During my testing I tried trick the system by not following directions like: not taking recommended practice swings, playing speed golf and having the watch set up for a “right handed golfer†whilst I am a lefty. I also tried to trick the system hitting numerous provisional balls and inevitably by losing (a lot) of golf balls. Being a high capper and a millennial, I am a sucker for new tech; especially if it will help me better my game. So how did Shot Scope perform with around 1000 strokes from 5 different courses? Did it help a high capper reach my summer goal of playing bogey golf? Looks & Feel (7 out of 10 points)—Points deducted for overall size and clasps being plastic and for looking like a house arrest tracking device, and tags falling out of grips. Describe the following for the watch and sensors: You've heard: YES the watch is big. I wear an Apple Watch, and Shot Scope comes in a touch bigger. But here is where Shot Scope shines. I find Shot Scope more comfortable than my Apple watch. It simply disappears as soon as you start swinging the stick. The rubber grip does an adequate job of locking the watch in place and being lightweight. The build quality is almost entirely a durable plastic or rubber and feels like it will easily make it through 4-5 years of use. However, it is staying on the golf course only and customization doesn't exist. This thing is not for public consumption, unless you are already married, don't care to have anymore kids and aren't looking to make a sale to anyone. The sensors fit well and are built to take a beating in your bag. However, they need to be watched, as they are suspect to fall out over a couple of months of use. Setup (9 out of 10 points)—1 point deduction for having to install individual courses manually Are the instructions clear and easy to understand?Instructions are very clear and easy to understand. Most importantly, they are accurate. How easy was installation? (PC, Phone, or Tablet is needed) Physical installation is very simple and instructions are not really needed. Simply screw the plastic tabs into the corresponding clubs grips, and put a watch on your glove hand's wrist. Setup is a little more delicate but still relatively simple. First, go to shotscope.com and create an account. Next click the “My Bag†link and label all of the club tags with your corresponding club brand and model (if you clubs are not listed, a quick email with a turnaround time within the business day will remedy that problem). Then go to “My Coursesâ€, find the course you are playing download via PC or mobile app, connect Shot Scope watch with the provided USB cable or Bluetooth for mobile app and Sync your devices. You are off to the golf course! Did you need to ask for help or search online for an answer during setup?Nope! Provided paper guide will take guide you all the way! On-Course (16 out of 20 points) Does it affect your swing? Not at all. Did you have to think about or remember anything to use the product The system fairly simple to use. The only time I found myself searching for the correct button was when I hit a ball OB or hit a provisional. The buttons are not well labeled which inevitably becomes a hunt and search procedure no matter how many times you have read the user guide. Using Pin collect at the hole takes thought at first, but becomes an automatic reaction the more you use the Shot Scope system.. Did it interfere with your normal golfing routine?Other than remembering to press pin collect or remembering to label a lost ball, it didn't change a thing. How intuitive was using it on the course?Using the watch was just plug in and swing, and the watch prompts you to pin collect when you are on the green, no problems at all. Again, the watch becomes a little less intuitive and sometimes confusing when losing balls and recording penalty shots, or accidentally hitting that button and trying to get back to the round without adding unnecessary penalties. The buttons need to be physically labelled and a “back†button needs to be added. Did you like using it?It has been a pleasure to use. I have accurate distances and my playing partners continue to ask questions after multiple rounds. Compare and contrast to what you are currently using or have used in the past. My old setup consisted of a Garmin Approach S3 watch, Swing x Swing iphone app, and a Tec Tec Tec rangefinder. The Garmin was my go to device for distance and recording the distance of shots. Keeping score is not easy to complete due to a very unresponsive touch screen (old tech). Shot Scope V2 is noticeably more accurate, keeps score for me, and doesn't have the unresponsive touch screen. The Garmin does allow you to track the distance of any individual shot from point-a to point-b and see the distance real time---Shot Scope does not and I would like to see this feature added. Swing x Swing provides real time GPS, shot tracking, and an overview of the hole. The only feature that is better with Swing x Swing is the course/current hole birds eye view. TecTecTec is accurate enough, but I had trouble locking on to the pin, it takes longer than a GPS watch. The one benefit is to the rangefinder is being able to find the distances to doglegs or random markers that aren't recognized by other GPS based systems. If I had to choose, I am a GPS watch guy. Accuracy (7 out of 10 points)—Points for exceptional on course GPS accuracy, putt tracking accuracy, penalty shot scoring and tracking. Deductions—Phantom shots, missed shots around the green, amount of time for round edits. Are the yardages given by the watch accurate? I have had the pleasure of playing with a few members (Kor.A.Dor and BigStu) who use Bushnell and Precision Pro rangefinders, as well as a few other guys who use newer GPS based watches from Garmin. The Shot Scope was dead on the money with the laser based systems and I found them to be more accurate than the other GPS based watches. Does it track every shot?Unfortunately NO. This is my biggest gripe with Shot Scope. Short touch shots around the green with anything other than a putter are not recorded more times than not and require post round editing to be added. On newly added courses, Shot Scope also has a problem with registering phantom strokes. My home course is the worst culprit for this. On the par 4, number 9, the tee box is back to back with a tee box from an earlier hole. Number 9 is always a mid to short iron off the tee. Without fail, Shot Scope records a driver being struck from the cart path going to the tee box and then the actual tee shot with the mid or short iron. Other phantom shots have been recorded but have been extremely rare to the tune of 11 in about 1000 strokes (most on same hole)—***fix has been found: delete course from watch and PC/phone, download again and reinstall How does it handle when you go OB or punch out?I have tested this feature more than most, and I can confidently say as long as you remember which button to press, the system does admirably recording punchouts, provisional and lost golf balls. Punchouts need to be correctly labeled as a “positional†shot in an after round edit so that the distances don't get averaged into your club stats. Do you have to spend much time editing?YES, the total time is a problem. Shot Scope is supposed to function behind the scenes with minimal input from the user. Most of the time it does this well, but I end up spending 10 minutes or so per 9 holes. The worst part about editing is having to add shots or try to edit shots recorded on the green. Dashboard Interface (8 out of 10 points): Points gained for ease of use and overall performance. Points deducted for editing frustrations using mobile app Be sure to spend time navigating the desktop/web interface as well as the mobile app. Try your best to explore every feature. Is the overall experience intuitive? Yes, the desktop/web interface is simple to understand and use without instruction. It takes all of logging on and clicking around to work and edit on a computer. Mobile application is smooth operationally and easy to view stats but I prefer the larger screen of PC. Editing rounds on PC is easy. Editing rounds on a mobile device is maddening, especially around the green. On both PC and mobile, the software does not zoom in nearly enough around the green. Then trying to select a specific putt is heroic test of patience, especially when the pin moves instead of your putt. The desktop is much easier especially using mouse and a larger screen. However, the view of the green still does not zoom in enough on either application. Best Feature / any missing options? The GPS watch is stellar. Distances are spot on and immediate, and distances to the front/back of major hazards is easy to see and very helpful. Shot Scope's proprietary system of adjusting distances to front/middle/back of the green depending on the direction of the shot is a game changer and just adds to the accuracy of the product. I love the raw stats of Shot Scope, but the feature that I would most like to see is an Arccos style trending handicap system so that the data can be better used to improve your game. Battery life has been as advertised, when starting at 100% (27 holes on one charge). However, it takes AGES to charge (roughly 5 hours for 100%). My unit will not hold a charge over the course of a week even while powered off. Meaning if I don't charge the unit the night before, I don't have enough juice for 9 holes the following week. Club tags need some work to stay screwed into clubs. Is the data presented straightforward or do you have to search for what you're trying to find? The data is straightforward and very easy to access. Talk about any Customer Service interactions you've had: My home course was not listed when my Shot Scope arrived, so I sent a quick message to customer service, problem solved in one day. I brought up the battery life issues that I have been having, customer service replied in one day stating this is an isolated problem and will be replacing my watch. Data Usefulness (18 out of 20 points)-No hidden meanings here. The system tells you where you are accurate, where you miss, and how far your clubs make a golf ball travel. Do you play better or worse now that you've started tracking every single detail?Better! I still have meltdown holes. But, my club selection is better because of these stats, my misses aren't as bad as before, and honestly I am just playing better golf. How are your club gaps now that you've got real data?My wedge setup is spot on and appropriately spaced and have been the best and most consistent performers in the bag since data collection. Woods are a close second out of the fairway. My driver dispersion and irons gaps have been Jekyll and Hyde and need a lot of practice. Are you able to identify areas of your game for improvement? Yes!Driver dispersion and mid-long irons absolutely suck. These need lots of work! Is there any instruction offered?None at all, and that is by design. Shot Scope wants to give you pure vanilla numbers and let you/your swing coach decipher what needs to be worked on. Were you able to bring the handicaps for those parts of your game down?Yes, my short game is money and shorter irons are getting better! My next big step is driver dispersion. Is there any information that was surprising to you?Driver distance and consistent wedge distance/gapping Most/least useful metric presented? Club distances, I can trust my swing and club now and that is leading to more greens hit. Least: Club usage percentage, I don't use this at all. Play it or Trade it? (19 out of 20 points) PLAY IT! Despite the shortcomings, this is a good product. I am a fan of GPS watches anyway, and this is one of the best on the market, with a very competitive price to boot…and you get shot tracking included. If I was in the market for a new GPS watch, I would certainly give Garmin a look, but Shot Scope is getting my money. From knowing the distances on my wrist are accurate to knowing my club distances, I am hitting greens more often and have now played bogey golf for the first time ever. This product is for any golfer that is serious about improving their game or a golfer looking for the most accurate GPS watch on the market. Conclusion Shot Scope is a big watch, but it disappears into your swing like it is a part of you and is one of the best GPS watches available. At $200-$250 it is a well-built product that will withstand years of use. It tracks rounds without much manual input. However 10-20 minutes of editing is required after the round to check accuracy and add or delete 2 or 3 strokes and the club tags can fall out over time if not checked. The PC interface is straightforward and easy to use for those that are either tech-savvy or allergic to computers. The statistics are displayed logically and clearly. As a high handicap golfer, I had my sights set on playing bogey golf before the end of the summer and with the help of data analytics, mission accomplished. Shot Scope may not be perfect and neither is my golf game; but Shot Scope does exactly what is asked of it and has helped me become a better golfer—for me it is a YES. 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Popular Post Nunfa0 Posted June 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2018 First off I have to say a massive thank you to MGS and Shot Scope for giving me this fantastic opportunity. I am hoping to grab this with with both hands and not bore the pants off everyone. What's your story?So my name is John and I am very much a golf addict. I have always lived in Christchurch, New Zealand. Yes we have had a couple of little quakes over the past few years but we are fine now.I have been a member of The Templeton Golf Club for 36 years, which is not bad considering I am 46 years old. My father introduced me to the game when I was 10 after I had to give up Rugby League (think rugby but more aggressive) due to injury. I still have the first club he gave me which just happens to be a left handed hickory shafted lofting iron that is now about 113 years old!! From the very first day I was hooked and wanted to play more and more. I also remember watching The Masters, The PGA, The US Open and The Open with Dad and I think that is a massive part of why I love the game. . I also have the pleasure of playing golf with my older brother as he is a member at Templeton as well. We lost Dad 21 years ago after a long illness and the day he died my brother and I went to the club and played a few holes. We felt like he was with us and I feel his presence every time I am there. So like I said Dad gave me a left handed club to learn with and the gave me his old blades that were also left handed. The only thing is I am right handed but it was too late to change. Besides, if it's good enough for Phil it's good enough for me.I have been lucky enough to have been Junior Club Champion, played match play for my province a couple of times, played inter club match play for Templeton many times and had one hole in one. My lowest handicap was 5.9 and my current is 10.9. I like to think that I average 250 metres with the driver and 145 metres with a 7 iron but I have a funny feeling that my reason for being in this test will show me a painful and shorter truth!I have always been a good putter with the occasional outbreak of brilliance but chipping can make me break out in cold sweats. I currently play a Callaway Fusion driver that I love, a Ping G 3 wood that I some times get on with and sometimes we argue, an M1 hybrid that is like an Emo teenager, sits in the back brooding and every once in a while does something amazing, a set of Mizuno JPX900 Hotmetal Irons that are beautiful in every way, 50, 55 and 60 degree SM6 Titleist Vokey wedges that are fabulous and a Rife two bar hybrid putter that never lets me down and will always forgive me for looking at other putters. Right to business, **Do you consider yourself to be tech savvy?** I am what you could call averagely competent when it comes to tech, able to work my way through things but don't ask me to write code. **How do you currently get your yardages?** Until recently it was markers on the course, ie 135 metres to the front of the green, and the mark one eyeball but I very recently bought a laser range finder that has already made my club choices better. **How do you currently Track Performance?** No, it was never something I had thought of doing. I was always too keen to play and didn't worry about anything but my score. Then I saw what could be done with the arccos system and now the Shot Scope V2. I think this will have a massive positive effect on my game, who doesn't want to know exactly how far they really hit each club and what your bad miss really is? First ImpressionsMy first move once I received the glorious email was to download the app on my android phone and register. This was easy and quick to do. I was then able to download my local courses to the app so I was ready to play once I received my new toy. Once I had set myself up it was time to set my clubs up. Again this was easy to do but I feel there should be an option to add a set of irons all at once instead of individually. When it came to my putter they didn't have it listed so I contacted the support team and they had it done within 24 hours! So my first impression of the site, apps and service was excellent. The apps and site are easy to use and intuitive and the service is second to none. It was then time to wait for the system to arrive. After about a week of bouncing off the walls, I contacted Shot Scope for shipping details. This time I had my answer within 12 hours and I was able to trace the package all the way to New Zealand. In fact it was due for delivery the next day! One sleepless night later I had the treasure in my hands. Oooo sooo pretty.... The packaging looks very nice and the outer sleeve has plenty going on. Inside was a black box that is secured magnectically. Inside the box was the watch, twenty tags, a bag to hold the tags, the charging/connection cord and a user guide. So I was pretty excited at this stage and just wanted to get set up and PLAY!!(be calm John, be calm...). Installing the tags was quick and easy, it only took between 5 and 10 minutes. I did notice that on some of my clubs the top of the grips are rounded so the tags don't sit flat but that is just my tiny bit of OCD firing up.The watch itself is a well made and quality product. It looks good and has some nice touches on the outside. It did look a little large and I felt it might take some getting used to as I don't wear a watch. Over all my first impression is this thing is fantastic and I can't wait to use it. Of course you have to wait to see how that went...Oh one last thing. In the package was a nice letter from Gavin Dear, Chief Commercial Officer for Shot Scope and a brochure. In the brochure I found this quote... That's a big call and we shall see..... Reesedw, JAGolfore, HardcoreLooper and 8 others 11 Quote In my cart Bag: Driver: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg Z U85 2 Iron Irons: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300 T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300 Wedges: Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts Putter: 2 Bar Hybrid Ball: Pro V1x Testing: Haywood CB/MB Combo Iron Set, 4-7 Cavity backs, 8-PW Muscle Backs, True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff, 2 Degrees stronger lofts. Tracked By: Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nunfa0 Posted June 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2018 Stage Two - The Review 01 August 2018 Shot Scope V2 – Official MGS Forum Review by Nunfa0 (John Hampton) Intro Well here we are, my fellow golfers, nearly two months later, after 15 rounds of golf and 1063 recorded shots, it's time to give a verdict. The initial excitement has not diminished and this has been a great experience. Again I have to say a massive thank you to MGS and Shot Scope for this opportunity. My whole approach to this test has been simply to play as much as I could and let the numbers do the talking. I wanted to see if it was a simple as Shot Scope said and if it really doesn't intrude too much when you are playing. I was hoping to see what this type of technology could do for my game. I wouldn't say that I have spent hours in a darkened room studying the data that I have produced but it has been fun to see what is truly going on with my game. I was able to use my Callaway range finder to check the accuracy of the GPS and took a few photos of the pin positions to check as well. One thing I have found is that now when I get ready to go and play, the watch is one of the first things I reach for. It has truly become an integral part of my game and I would feel naked without it. So without further ado, here is what I really think of the Shot Scope V2 GPS watch.Looks & Feel (8 out of 10 points) General Shape / Size / Fit The watch itself is quite large, some would say chunky, but the shape fits my eye. The screen is a really good size and all of the numbers are very clear. The strap is comfortable and holds very well but, as I have been testing in winter, I am yet to see how it feels in the heat. Already I have noticed that once the temperature gets into the teens (Celcius) I begin to sweat a little under the watch. The watch sits well on my wrist but if you have a larger wrist it may not be so good. The back of the watch is rigid and has no give so could be problematic. Also if you don't have the strap tight enough the plastic latch doesn't sit flat. You do have to be careful of how close to your hand the watch sits on your wrist because if you wear a glove like me, it can actually press the buttons when you swing if the watch is too close. It's quite annoying to try to pin collect and the thing has gone back to the previous hole. The tags are solid and the perfect size for the top of the grips. They sit really well on the the flat topped grips but do sit above the rounded top grips on some of my clubs. Would you wear it in your daily activities? The simple answer is no. It really is a bit of a one trick pony but that's ok, it doesn't pretend to be anything else. There has been an update that gives the time and date on the main screen but I can't see myself ever using it just as a watch. Durability or build quality The build quality is excellent but I do have a couple of reservations. The strap is made of rubber and I have seen similar ones split after just one years use. Hopefully this one will last. Also where the strap attaches to the watch can be a weak point but it all looks fine so far. On the back of the watch is a small rubber cover that slots in where the cord attaches. The little screw that holds that in place has rusted. It's more annoying than anything else but I thought they would have made sure parts exposed to sweat would have been rust proof. ( then again knowing my luck I got the only one in the world that will do that) The top of the tags are scratched but there is no surprise in that. I don't think it will have any adverse effect on them. The tags are still all solidly in place. Setup (10 out of 10 points)Are the instructions clear and easy to understand?Yes they are. The set up took no time at all. All I had to do was go to the website, download the app and register. Everything was intuitive and very quick to do.How easy was installation? Very easy, as stated above the computer and mobile installation was quick and simple. Installing the tags was even easier and only took five minutes. The longest part of set up was setting up "my bag" and even that only took 10 minutes. All you have to do is choose the tag, assign the club and then drag it to the correct position. All the tags can be used for any club except your putter. For that you have to use the putter tag. (see my awesome stage one for photos) Do you need a phone/computer/tablet to setup the product? You really need a laptop for the initial set up but once that is done you can do everything with you mobile device. Did you need to ask for help or search online for an answer during setup? No, the only issue was caused by my poor internet at the time. (An issue that has now been fixed.)On-Course (20 out of 20 points) Does it affect your swing? Not at all. I was a little concerned about how I would get on with the watch but after a couple of holes I had forgotten it was there. As for the tags, they don't even register even though I hold the club right at the end of the grip. Did you have to think about or remember anything to use the product?Yes, you have to get used to "pin collect" at the greens to mark how many putts you had but after a couple of rounds it became automatic for me. Also if you hit a ball out of bounds, have to take a drop or penalty, you need to remember to add it by selecting the right option on the watch. Did it interfere with your normal golfing routine? Nope, it is literally hole the putt, press a button on the watch and pick the ball out of the hole or hit the ball in a lake, play your next shot, press the menu button, select the type of penalty and carry on. How intuitive was using it on the course? Very intuitive, everything is almost spoon feed to you. All of your options are at the push of a button. To start a round you turn it on, press the button at the top right by the flag icon, select the mode you want and it searches for the GPS. Then check it has you at the right course, press the button by the tick and off you go. With pin collect once you are on the verge of the green it automatically comes up. The main screen has 0, 1, 2 or 3 putts as the options. You can press the menu button and on the second screen find 4 putts or pick up. Any more than 4 putts and its time to go home I think. Did you like using it? I love using it!! It has become like a personal challenge for me to try and beat my longest drive or closest approach. I am always trying to improve my playing average for each club and get the proper gapping. I wouldn't know what to do now without the GPS giving me the front, middle and back of the green no matter what angle I have managed to find. Compare and contrast to what you are currently using or have used in the past. Well compared to my mark one eye ball and slightly warped brain, this thing is the greatest super computer ever made and could give us the question to go with the answer "42"!!Accuracy (7 out of 10 points) Are the yardages given by the watch accurate? As accurate as can be expected. Actually I was surprised by how close it was compared to my range finder. Each time I checked there was maybe a metre or two in between. It is a little out when you get on the green and may not put the pin exactly where it was but thats easy fixed in editing. Being a couple of metres out can also be the difference between being in a bunker and being beside a bunker. Again the magic of editing fixes all. Does it track every shot?This is where it loses points. Some of the shorter shots don't register from time to time and occasionally it will register a shot when all you have done is move forward with the club in the watch hand and hit the ground with it. It has also registered "ghost" shots that never happened but a quick email to the help desk exorsised that demon How does it handle when you go OB or punch out?OB is fixed with the push of two buttons, menu to get to the second screen and the OB button to add the penalty. Punch outs can be changed in after round editing. You just select the hole, then the shot and change it to a "positional shot". This will take it out of the averages for the club and will help give you a true number for it.Do you have to spend much time editing?Personally no, I spend maybe 5 minutes after each round just tweeking the positional shots, pin placements and checking the tee shots.Dashboard Interface (8 out of 10 points) Is the overall experience intuitive? For me yes it was. The dashboard for both computer and mobile were very easy to understand and navigate. Is the dashboard easier to use through desktop or mobile? and why? I wouldn't say the either was easier to use but you get more in depth information from the website and it is presented in a better way. Is it easy to edit rounds? Very easy. Go into the dashboard, select the round, press the pencil icon to edit then just start at the first hole. The rest is almost childs play. Best Feature / any missing options? The best feature for me is the fact that when you look at your round you can see where you hit your shots on a satellite image of the course. It's great for sharing on social media and showing off to friends. It also gives a permanent record of your triumphs!! I would like to see some sort of handicap system or comparison with other players. Is the data presented straightforward or do you have to search for what you're trying to find? The data is presented really well and takes no finding at all. The graphs are easy and look like a driving range or target depending on what you are looking at. It's fun to use and easy to see when you are improving. I love that you can look at the current round, last five rounds or your whole season to see your stats. It really lest you see if your getting longer and straighter off the tee, or closer to the hole. Oh and the never up never in irks me but I love it!! Talk about any Customer Service interactions you've had. I have contacted customer service 3 times and each time they have addressed the problem and apart from my own internet problem fixed the issue within 24 hours. They have been brilliant!!Data Usefulness (15 out of 20 points) Do you play better or worse now that you've started tracking every single detail? Well, to be honest, I feel that there is no difference in my game but I am choosing better clubs for shots and I feel that come summer I will see a vast improvement. How are your club gaps now that you've got real data? If you go by the average there is very little between my hybrid all the way down to my 7 iron but when you get to the 8 iron down its about 10 to 20 metres between each club. I think it has helped a lot but again summer will tell the true story. Are you able to identify areas of your game for improvement? Yes and it's very simple. I just need to hit more greens!! It really did show just how many I miss. Is there any instruction offered?Ummm, no. Is there any information that was surprising to you?The usage really shows just how much I use my driver. It's no wonder that I go through so many!! Most/least useful metric presented? Most useful would be playing averages. It gives me a better idea of how far I can actually hit the ball, not how far I think I hit the ball. Least useful is the Never up, Never in. I already know that I leave the ball short more often than not when I putt, so it feels like Shot Scope is laughing at me. Or is that with me? (Still love it though) Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points) This product has won me over and I will be using it from now on. I love having the stats to check how I am performing and am looking forward to adding to them.Every round I am trying to improve my longest drive, longest holed putts, GIR and up and down average. It has made each round important and adds to the challenge on the course. The information is really helping me make better club choices and having the GPS distances on my wrist confirms it. I love how I don't need to have a score card to keep count of my score and I think this is showing how we will work in the future. I feel this is for the type of golfer that wants an accurate GPS and to know how far he or she hits each club, what the gapping between clubs are, how accurate they are at hitting greens, percentage of up and downs and just how good or bad their putting is. Final Score: 88 out of 100 Conclusion Shot Scope V2 and I have started a relationship that should be long lasting but it is not for everyone. If you are looking for a great GPS with that extra selling point of shot tracking and statistical analysis then this could be the system for you. I have found it very easy to use, it has great customer service and the updates seem to improve it very nicely. Personally I like having all of the stats at my finger tips but I can't see how it can shave two shots off your handicap in a year.It is not the be all and end all that will fix your game. It's great that it can tell you that you hit 35% of your drives to the right but it can't change your swing to fix that, only you can do that. It is not perfect but is the beginning of the future of golf. I can see all golfers using this type of system in the future and having live scoring and stats for every golfer on every course around the world. Imagine being able to run an MGS tournament with players from every continent, with live scoring and longest drive competitions built in!! Shot Scope and the like are the first step towards that goal. Thanks for reading my waffle, John. Jon Brittan, Reddotter, HardcoreLooper and 13 others 16 Quote In my cart Bag: Driver: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg Z U85 2 Iron Irons: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300 T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300 Wedges: Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts Putter: 2 Bar Hybrid Ball: Pro V1x Testing: Haywood CB/MB Combo Iron Set, 4-7 Cavity backs, 8-PW Muscle Backs, True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff, 2 Degrees stronger lofts. Tracked By: Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post perseveringgolfer Posted June 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2018 Reserved Stage 1 About me as a golfer First of all thank you MGS and Shot Scope. I'll do my best to keep up the standard of honest testing. Secondly, I'm old……there….I've said it. I'm starting my sixth decade on this planet and I've chased the small white ball around it for five of them, and it still eludes me. A long long time ago… on a planet we all live on, I was a teen……my uncle took my brother out to try golf, I said I'd tag along as it was summer, school was out and I was bored. He hated the game, I was hooked. The chance to smash a ball as hard as I could in any direction was too good an opportunity to pass up as my body was bursting with energy (those were the days) 😊 I played the local muni as much as I could over that hot summer – I mention it was hot as Scottish summers are usually mild and damp – the 9 hole muni had it's usual type of players, it ranged from kids who hit the ball and ran after it, ladies and old guys with all the gear and a scattering of ‘gangs' who would either nick your ball or ask to see your driver then walk away with it calmly surrounded by their ‘henchmen'. The smaller and less brave thugs would just sit near a tee and shout abuse that Richard Pryor would have blushed at. I say ‘gangs' but they were kids my age but street smart. Needless to say I became adept at playing quickly and ‘ready to run' golf. I gave the game up after that as I discovered girls, snooker/pool, alcohol and hanging out. Started back again at 20, joined a club, handed in my three cards and got my first official handicap of 18. Hooked again I played and practiced in all conditions as I was going to be the best I could. I got down to a 5 in my first season and capped it by winning a comp with a sub par round and coming 6th in the club championship. Roll on a few years and the handicap hovered between 3 and 5 but I could also have a swing breakdown for weeks and couldn't work out why. I'd never had a lesson and knew nothing about the technical side of the game. I had bought a set of Titleist blades off the shelf and adapted my swing to suit what I had – (decades later I looked at them in the garage to see they were regular lite shafts! Who needs fitted 😉) – So I started getting lessons and finding out about shafts, kick points, swing weights, launch angle blah blah and my game got consistently worse as I chased my swing issues through club tweaking and changing. I call this period of the last 20 years my ‘talking golf era'. I could talk knowledgably about the tech and my head was full of the latest swing thoughts, top pro's books and youtube golf gurus that guaranteed sure fire ways to fix my game and play like the pro's. When I knew nothing I practiced until I found a way it worked. Now that I was armed with an encyclopedic knowledge I tried everything, usually at the same time. It's a bit like going to the gym and straddling multiple machines while holding weights instead of working on my arms, then quads, then legs etc Jump forward to present day and my love/hate relationship of the game is still as strong as it always was, but now just a tad more realistic. I have succumbed to the lure of new clubs as my very old Mizuno T zoid pro's weren't forgiving enough and the forgiveness promised by todays OEM's was surely the only reason my 85 could have been 75, in my head! So I tried many fittings with many major names, settling on Titleist 718 AP2's trying to capture my Titleist youth, they didn't suit, so I traded and bought Mizuno MP18 SC's with Modus 3 tour 105 in ‘S'. Happy with them for looks, feel and sound and will probably last me a long time. Driver is a Titleist 910 D3 9.5 (cant find anything to beat that…yet), old Callaway Steelhead 4+ wood that is as precious to me as Stensons 3 wood. I use the Sky Caddie watch as I only want F/M/B yardages as I can see any hazards ahead. I still have a decent SS of 89mph with a 6 iron and around 103mph with driver, I just have to keep the body fit now as distance is definitely shrinking. I'm still competitive and I still envisage a sub par round when standing on the first tee, 4 hrs later I sign for ‘another' 80-85 while muttering “there's always next timeâ€. I go home and self analyse from memory but it usually gets foggy, not because of age (I think that's the reason but can't remember lol), but playing the same course a lot it's easy to mix up the poor drive on 4 with the great drive on 4 I played last week. This is where the Shot Scope V2 comes in (at long last I hear you cry). I've never been interested in golf gadgets that take lots of prep and even more attention on the course. I see people tapping their club to a phone prior to each shot, checking on their phone it recorded that stat or spending ages deleting the ‘false' shot or moving their GPS onto the right hole as that bunker surely isn't 794 yards away! I do like tech though, that's why I have the Skycaddie watch with F/M/B yardages, quick check and pull the right club. Stats I do like, my club puts up basic stats in your profile of rounds completed and it shows me weak scoring holes but that's it. The Shot Scope V2 that promises “Automatic data collection provides Tour-level performance analysis with zero effort and maximum impact on your game†sounds exactly what I didn't know I needed but always craved, make sense? First Impressions Smaller box than I imagined, don't know why I thought that as it's a watch, some sensors, a cable and some paperwork, how big should it be lol The packaging feels of quality, right down to a solid box with a magnetic fold to keep it closed. I always feel if the packaging shows quality it bodes well for the product inside. sensors There was a personalised letter inside which is a nice touch, it might just be for the MGS testers but if they do that for all users its starts the experience of very well. I read the enclosed pamphlet and instruction manual from cover to cover first, that's not my usual style or even very manly as us men don't need instruction literature, right men? But on this occasion and to ensure my MGS test was done properly and efficiently I thought it prudent to learn as much as I could before jumping in. It all reads easily, makes sense and easy to follow. They have a glaring spelling error in the instruction manual, I have informed customer support so they can correct it before their next published batch, but they failed to acknowledge or reply. Now to set it up. There are sensors with names for every club in your bag, if you have extra clubs or a ‘special' club there are 4 additional sensors to use, all you do is map that sensor to that club within the online ‘my bag' set up in your account. See pic below for my bag set up. Two of my clubs were not in the drop down list online but an online support email had them added within hours. Started adding the appropriate sensor to the appropriate club, it takes some small downward force while twisting and I did find my fingers getting pretty sore after the first half dozen. My grips are midsize with extra tape, the tape seems to be ‘bunched' at the butt end and I think this made it harder to screw the sensors in, I would think normal grips with a couple of layers of tape should be easier. Due to my set up the butt end of my grips are slightly raised, this meant the sensors didn't sit flush with the grip which I found annoying and not pleasing to look at and I did wonder if they could pop off easily with the clubs going in and out the bag. Another quick email to support assured me they would stay secure and won't affect performance. The sensor on my putter though has the hole off centre so the sensor overhangs the putter, also annoying and distracting but short of changing my stock Ping grip there's not a lot you can do to change it. all sensors attached Not flush on midsize grips Offset on standard Ping putter grip view from address position The watch is quite large (compared to a skycaddie watch) but I assume that's due to it having more ‘tech' installed. The strap feels flimsy and quite cheap, however once you put it on it's very comfortable and the strap system works well and doesn't ‘feel' cheap. A point to note with the watch, you cannot wear any other tech or metal on the same wrist, such as ION magnetic bands or metal bracelets etc as this can interfere with the data collection. The watch must be within 10cm's of the sensor while playing a shot so you cannot have it on your bag or buggy, it must be on your wrist. It does look larger than other GPS watches but it's actually thinner than a Skycaddie for example but takes up more real estate on your wrist. Length: 65.0mm Width: 39.0mm Depth: 14.4mm Registration of your product doesn't take long, setting up your clubs with ‘my bag' can take about 20 minutes. looking through all the potential information you can glean online in your account had me salivating to get started out on the course. online info The manufacturers promise of a hassle free round and tour level stats at the end as every shot will be recorded, had me literally going out that evening for my first round under ‘exam' conditions like an excited schoolboy on Christmas eve. I couldn't wait to find out exactly how long I hit each club, how accurate my Drives were, how close my approaches were, where my weaknesses really are as opposed to what I think they are. It was a lovely summers evening, the course was quiet and I was ready to be put under the microscope. Bring it on! STUDque, fozcycle, russtopherb and 8 others 11 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post perseveringgolfer Posted June 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2018 Stage 2 Intro Its now been about 2 months of testing. I've used it for 18 hole practice rounds, 9 hole practice rounds and for official competitions as that's where I feel the real stats are, as we all mostly play better under no pressure, so I felt competitive rounds at my home and away courses would really show my strengths and weaknesses. I didn't use the iPhone app as I wanted less to no involvement during my competitive rounds as that's what the makers claim the system is ideal for i.e set up and play. The watch itself is large but unobtrusive once it's on. It connects to GPS signals very fast, way faster than my skycaddie watch which can be up to 5 minutes to acquire contact. Shotscope averaged well under a minute. As a glasses wearer I found the size of the digits a joy to look at as I wear distance glasses so when I look at my skycaddie I have to screw up my eyes to focus on the middle distance, with Shotscope I could easily read front middle and back with no eye pain. The accuracy of distances I felt was also better than skycaddie but I have no real evidence to support this apart from comparing with fellow players gps systems and lasers on the same hole. I have known two skycaddies side by side to have a +/- 3 yards on some holes. First issue I had with using the system for a lone practice round is I could only hit one ball and play like it was a medal round. Normally I would tee off then hit 2 balls to a green with several practice chip shots and putts if no-one was behind me, that's how I practice on course but for the sake of the testing I didn't want to jeopardize the stats. It kind of forced me to do a full 18 in 2 hrs when I would normally play around 9 holes with lots of practice shots. A small point but worth pointing out for anyone who practices on course like I do. Second issue on a practice round which was also a much greater issue during a competition, was the fact as soon as you near a green, or walk over one to your chip shot from behind the green, the system automatically goes into ‘collecting your number of putts' mode. Subsequently chip shots weren't recorded so when you entered one putt (chipped stone dead) it recorded a birdie when it should have been par. In one competition it missed both the chip and 3 putts on a par 5 and recorded a double eagle 2! I contacted customer support, who responded quite quickly, to ask if theres a way to stop that or click it back into full course mode but they said the only way is to stay away from the green for a minimum of 30 seconds to let it automatically go back. Not ideal during a competition when pace of play is important. I've kept the categories below suggested by MGS as they are exactly the type of questions we golfers ask, or wanted to know but were afraid to ask It also makes easy reference reading if you have a particular question needing answered. Looks & Feel ( 5 out of 10 points) Describe the following for the watch and sensors: General Shape / Size / Fit – Big on wrist but comfortable. The strap is a bit fiddly to secure and the rubber strap can be a sweat inducer in summer temperatures. Would you wear it in your daily activities – definitely not! Too big for shirt cuffs, doesn't match any outfits and it's only the time you would glean from it. Customization (if any) – none that I was aware of. Durability or build quality (with a prediction on the long-term) – The watch seems good quality but I'm not sure how long the rubber strap would last. Setup ( 7 out of 10 points) Are the instructions clear and easy to understand? – The small leaflet seems clear but I didn't find the actual set up that intuitive at all, it beggared more questions than providing answers and finding answers to my questions meant another email to customer support as the website FAQ wasn't definitive enough. I felt it should be targeted at people who have no tech knowledge who could follow a really basic step by step guide. I'm quite tech savvy and it had me quite frustrated at times with no solution or even a potential solution. How easy was installation? Sensors were tough to install (for me) as I have midsize grips with extra tape. I had to give my fingers a rest in between screwing (oooeerr missus) them in. Most didn't sit flush with the grip. See pics in stage 1. Another email to CS assured me it wouldn't affect performance nor would they come off. So far they have stayed firm but I find myself giving them a reassuring twist each time I take a club out the bag. I'm sure for standard grips it's probably a lot easier and the sensors will be flush. Do you need a phone/computer/tablet to setup the product? Yes, you can only do some parts of the initial set up via a pc and a smart phone for the APP if you want to add data or view stats on the move. Did you need to ask for help or search online for an answer during setup? Frequently and more than I wanted to or expected to for a simple plug in and play type system. CS were quick with responses though but it did take a few emails sometimes to get the actual answers to my questions as they tended to only answer my main question and ignored the ancillary ones which were key from a golfers perspective. Possibly CS are techies and not golfers as a golfer I would have expected not only an answer but a detailed answer and all possible other scenarios that they have experience of related to my issue. That might seem harsh but it's what I would do and what I expect and sets companies CS above the run of the mill businesses. On-Course ( 14 out of 20 points) Does it affect your swing? Not at all, after a few minutes you forget the watch is on your wrist. Did you have to think about or remember anything to use the product? Collecting the number of putts while standing over the hole. This wasn't explained in the set up or FAQ and took an email from CS when my on course analysis showed the pin nowhere near where it actually was. Remembering to walk widely around a green and not over it for any chip shots or the auto putt collection kicks in. Ensuring you took at least 2 practice swings very close to your ball for ALL shots or it might not record the stroke or club. Again another email to CS to be told to do this after I found it missed various shots. Did it interfere with your normal golfing routine? Yes! Refer to the answer immediately above plus I sometimes take practice swings behind the ball to gauge the direction then walk into my set up. I had to change that. How intuitive was using it on the course? For F/M/B yardages I loved it. Also the hazard yardages were very useful and a nice touch. If it didn't automatically go onto the next hole, or I had to add a penalty shot, or put in the wrong number of putts in error it had me pressing the wrong buttons in a trial and error manner to fix it. Possibly just me not fully embedding the watch instructions in my memory but I'd rather it guided me through a ‘correction' clearly especially when your playing partners are telling you you're on the tee. A slight distraction I could do without during a competition. Did you like using it? Yes but only for F/M/B yardages and hazard distances from the tee and to greens. Compare and contrast to what you are currently using or have used in the past. As previously stated it's easier to read than my skycaddie watch, picks up gps much faster and appears to be more accurate for yardages. Accuracy ( 6 out of 10 points) Are the yardages given by the watch accurate? Very! As stated a few times in this stage 2 review and in comparison to other watches and lasers. Does it track every shot? No! annoyingly missing some superb drives (in my eyes), stating a different club (only 3 times), missing putts and chips. How does it handle when you go OB or punch out? Never added an OB in a competitive round. Ending a round early took a couple of button tries but it worked fine. Do you have to spend much time editing? Far too much. I just want to upload the round (on a positive note that takes seconds) and see all my lovely stats, but nearly everytime I uploaded I saw an inaccurate score due to missed shots or errors in recording. Editing is not intuitive and for putt and pin editing it's so tricky I eventually stopped trying as it's not as accurate as it needs to be to accurately state my putting stats. It would occasionally show a long putt that I knew was only a 3 or 4 footer. Dashboard Interface ( 8 out of 10 points) Be sure to spend time navigating the desktop/web interface as well as the mobile app. Try your best to explore every feature. Is the overall experience intuitive? No! takes website hunting, basic FAQ's and CS emails for something that should be simple and all ‘normal' questions and scenarios should be clear on the website, FAQ or leaflet. In the ‘my bag' section when inputting your clubs you have to use a drop down list, if your club isn't there you are stuck with no clear way to continue. Another CS email had them request my club and they would add it to the drop down list database. It should say that on the ‘my bag' page rather than have me searching the pages and FAQ once again. On a positive note they added my ‘missing' clubs within hours. Is the dashboard easier to use through desktop or mobile? and why? Definitely the desktop as you have to keep going back and forward on some pages and typing is easier (for me) on a proper keyboard. Is it easy to edit rounds? No! some editing won't let you take out a shot without replacing it with another club, even a ghost shot. Green editing too inaccurate, the green needs to be much larger and the software needs to show a yardage when you drag a putt line, otherwise it's just a guess and I might as well just mark a guess on my scorecard. Best Feature / any missing options? Yardage display is excellent, accuracy of yardages is excellent. A more intuitive menu on the watch once you are in your round, and the ability to go back to course mode when auto putts kick in would be useful. Is the data presented straightforward or do you have to search for what you're trying to find? The data is all there, easy to find and looks nice with coloured dots for accuracy, yardages for each club, best and worst clubs, longest shots with each club etc etc is all easy to find. However, (there had to be a however, sorry, but it's an honest review) interpreting the data isn't self explanatory, there should be a legend or detailed paragraph to help you understand what the dots in each circle really represent and what it ‘might' mean about your game and potential improvements you should consider. My ‘graphs' had red dots in the inner circle which is great, isn't it? I only assume it's great but what does it really mean? How many are in the inner red circle?, how many outside?, whats the percentage comparisons per round or is this graph for all my shots in perpetuity? Talk about any Customer Service interactions you've had? Overall the CS was fast, efficient but not as empathic as I would have hoped. In one interaction I genuinely asked if I was the only or first user ever to have asked this obvious question as the reply kept referring to the FAQ which didn't have the answer. Eventually I detailed out very simply the question and was told a solution was they could take over my account and make changes or reset which would lose my account data! Data Usefulness ( 10 out of 20 points) This gets into the meat of what this product really does for you as a golfer. Tracking data and pretty charts are neat, but do they help you play better? Do you play better or worse now that you've started tracking every single detail? The biggest ‘revelation' for me was to be accurately told 88% of my putts are short, putting has considerably improved due to this knowledge. How are your club gaps now that you've got real data? Personally it hasn't changed for me as I feel you probably need a years worth of data to glean accurate yardages due to all the variant yardages you can get with each club in different weather conditions i.e hard baked conditions against cold windy conditions, knock down shots on links, flyers from rough etc etc Are you able to identify areas of your game for improvement? As above my putting has improved due to knowing I putt like a little girl sometimes. Also knowing my wedge game isn't accurate, however I knew that without the data. Is there any instruction offered? Not that I was aware of. Were you able to bring the handicaps for those parts of your game down? Still a WIP Is there any information that was surprising to you? Short putts Most/least useful metric presented? Most was putting and affirmation of wedge play, least was the fact I hit a few 320+ yd drives as I average 220yd carry roll out to 240 ish. Play it or Trade it? ( 10 out of 20 points) Does the information provided help you play your best? Or is it just nice to have? Overall it's potentially a very good product, the idea of tour level stats is quite appealing for us run of the mill golfers if presented in a more user friendly way with potential analysis of what you need to improve. An example of what I mean is this, if I get a club fitting I know the fitter has given me a stiff shaft with high kick point and stiff tip, or a regular shaft with low kick but heavier butt. Each gives different ball flight characteristics but what does that mean to me as a golfer? What's good and what needs improved? I don't know, I'm just a golfer looking for guidance. Finally, what type of golfer do you think this product would fit the best? In my un-expert (is that a word) opinion this would suit golfers just wanting some affirmation of issues they already know they have. Or potentially bragging rights of an eagle captured or a 300+yd drive, maybe a record of a bucket list course they played or just a memory of a great round shot by shot. The golfer wanting to distance gap their clubs would use a trackman or similar device for an hour to gain a much clearer idea of average yardages. Conclusion Consider this your TL;DR (Too Long; Didn't Read). If a member reads nothing but this paragraph, they should be able to get a good idea of your overall thoughts. In conclusion it's a nice fun product to have that shows aspects of your game you either weren't aware of or needed affirmation. It gives a different perspective to your normal game. I've come to the stage I don't trust the whole information I upload due to missed recordings or inaccurate club data but I do find it fun to see how far I actually hit that career best drive or the par 5 I've recorded hitting the green in two for the first time. If you are looking for real tour stats and a system that records everything accurately without human intervention post round I don't think it's quite there yet. If the issues I've highlighted above are improved there is a real market for something like this and as this is only version 2.0 it might not be far away. Final Score 60 out of 100 STUDque, HardcoreLooper, Har in the Hat and 8 others 11 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Should be an interesting review can't wait to read them Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app JohnSmalls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Stage 1 up MDGolfHacker and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunfa0 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Stage one up guys.... MDGolfHacker and JohnSmalls 2 Quote In my cart Bag: Driver: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg Z U85 2 Iron Irons: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300 T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300 Wedges: Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts Putter: 2 Bar Hybrid Ball: Pro V1x Testing: Haywood CB/MB Combo Iron Set, 4-7 Cavity backs, 8-PW Muscle Backs, True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff, 2 Degrees stronger lofts. Tracked By: Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Nicely done guys Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app JohnSmalls and perseveringgolfer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Well done, gents! perseveringgolfer and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downlowkey Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Very nice Stage 1, gents! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy perseveringgolfer and JohnSmalls 2 Quote PXG___0811 X 9* - Mitsubishi Diamana s60 Limited X Cobra___S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S Adams___XTD Forged 3i - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S Adams___CMB 4-PW - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S KZG___Tri-Tour 50.08__54.10__58.12 - Accra iCWT 2.0-95i S Nike___Method Converge B1-01 (copper insert) Maxfli___'23 Tour X "The most important shot in golf is the next one“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunfa0 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Thought I would share one of the features I have been enjoying so far... MDGolfHacker, perseveringgolfer, JohnSmalls and 5 others 8 Quote In my cart Bag: Driver: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg Z U85 2 Iron Irons: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300 T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300 Wedges: Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts Putter: 2 Bar Hybrid Ball: Pro V1x Testing: Haywood CB/MB Combo Iron Set, 4-7 Cavity backs, 8-PW Muscle Backs, True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff, 2 Degrees stronger lofts. Tracked By: Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Great Stage 1's so far guys! As someone who does wear a watch on a day to day basis, I have to agree that the Shot Scope watch does appear to be pretty big and a bit bulky. I'll be curious to see how you all get on with it as you use it. Nunfa0, perseveringgolfer, JohnSmalls and 2 others 5 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Nice start all. perseveringgolfer and JohnSmalls 2 Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhartmann34 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Love the V2. Looking forward to what you all think. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk JohnSmalls and perseveringgolfer 2 Quote Driver: G400 (8*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Fairway: G400 (14.5*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Irons: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft AP3 (4/5) and AP2 (6-PW) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Putter: Pro Platinum Newport 2 Midslant Handicap: 3 Location: Illinois...until i can get my wife to move to a warmer climate Right Handed: Although sometimes I wonder if left handed would suit me better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nunfa0 Posted June 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2018 Thought I would share a couple of early thoughts. 1. Shot Scope is brutally honest. In fact it is like the Sheldon Cooper of golf devices. I walk off the course thinking I have played ok and he says "well actually you only hit your driver this far and you missed this many greens and you are short with this percentage of putts" But that is a good thing. No more rose tinted glasses for me. 2. Winter golf kills my distance more than I realised. I must be 30 metres shorter in the winter but that could be age as well 😠cksurfdude, ole gray, HardcoreLooper and 7 others 10 Quote In my cart Bag: Driver: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg Z U85 2 Iron Irons: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300 T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300 Wedges: Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts Putter: 2 Bar Hybrid Ball: Pro V1x Testing: Haywood CB/MB Combo Iron Set, 4-7 Cavity backs, 8-PW Muscle Backs, True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff, 2 Degrees stronger lofts. Tracked By: Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM11 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Great review! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Thought I would share a couple of early thoughts. 1. Shot Scope is brutally honest. In fact it is like the Sheldon Cooper of golf devices. I walk off the course thinking I have played ok and he says "well actually you only hit your driver this far and you missed this many greens and you are short with this percentage of putts" But that is a good thing. No more rose tinted glasses for me. 2. Winter golf kills my distance more than I realised. I must be 30 metres shorter in the winter but that could be age as well Lol. That was my exact thought last night. I dont usually add my score during a round. Last night. I felt I was hitting the ball very solid and despite ending the night on a triple bogey 6 on a par 3.....ugh. I figured I was somewhere around 43 or 44. Imagine my surprise when I saw 48!! I went back over the hole by hole twice thinking maybe I added a penalty stroke or something by accident. Nope, in reviewing hole by hole I was nodding my head in agreement with each missed 5 footer or the pitch left short I forgot about....etc. I love the Shelon analogy....perfect. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy TSauer, MattF, JohnSmalls and 4 others 7 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Late to the party,but never absent. Stage one is up. Nunfa0, perseveringgolfer and MDGolfHacker 3 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Great Stage 1's so far guys! As someone who does wear a watch on a day to day basis, I have to agree that the Shot Scope watch does appear to be pretty big and a bit bulky. I'll be curious to see how you all get on with it as you use it. That was an initial worry that I had especially before the ShotScope arrived. It does appear to be bulky, but after I put it on and swung a few times I almost forgot I had it on. It is pretty lightweight and doesn't affect my swing at all. russtopherb and Nunfa0 2 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 That was an initial worry that I had especially before the ShotScope arrived. It does appear to be bulky, but after I put it on and swung a few times I almost forgot I had it on. It is pretty lightweight and doesn't affect my swing at all. I would agree with this. I did wonder however when I first looked at it whether it should be round my ankle JohnSmalls, MattF, downlowkey and 1 other 4 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunfa0 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I agree as well, very light and doesn't affect my swing at all. It has the looks of a heavy weight boxer but the presence of a ballerina. mdumble21, Golfspy_CG2, JohnSmalls and 4 others 7 Quote In my cart Bag: Driver: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg Z U85 2 Iron Irons: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300 T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300 Wedges: Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts Putter: 2 Bar Hybrid Ball: Pro V1x Testing: Haywood CB/MB Combo Iron Set, 4-7 Cavity backs, 8-PW Muscle Backs, True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff, 2 Degrees stronger lofts. Tracked By: Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I would agree with this. I did wonder however when I first looked at it whether it should be round my ankle Good thing it doesn't beep when you get to far from home MattF and perseveringgolfer 2 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Two nine hole rounds in with mine so far. It just works. Put it on make sure it's found the course and you have the right mode selected. Then your good to go. As others have said I don't even notice it during the round. It just works. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy MattF, JohnSmalls and GeekingGolf 3 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Two nine hole rounds in with mine so far. It just works. Put it on make sure it's found the course and you have the right mode selected. Then your good to go. As others have said I don't even notice it during the round. It just works. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I've been playing 9 hole mini rounds until today. Squeezed a whole 18 in. It is so unnoticeable I almost forgot to pin collect a couple of times. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy MDGolfHacker and Golfspy_CG2 2 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I've been playing 9 hole mini rounds until today. Squeezed a whole 18 in. It is so unnoticeable I almost forgot to pin collect a couple of times. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Yep. That happend to me as well. Forgot to pin collect on the 2nd hole I think. Monday I'll be possible playing 54 holes. I don't expect it to make it through all 3 rounds. So most likely will play it the first round, charge it up during the second (the golf carts have USB ports for charging) and use again during the third round. Nunfa0, GeekingGolf and MattF 3 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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