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2018 Official Forum Member Review - Shot Scope V2

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I know they took some of the suggestions and improved the V2, but it seems to be just as bulky as the old one... too bad!

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Like we've said it looks bulky but it doesn't "play" bulky. You can almost forget it's on your wrist.

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In my :cobra-small: Ultralight Stand Bag:

Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1

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One of the things I have discovered is that editing is a must if you want accurate stats. Haven't really had any major issues, just getting used to a non analog golfing life.

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In my :cobra-small: Ultralight Stand Bag:

Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1

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One of the things I have discovered is that editing is a must if you want accurate stats. Haven't really had any major issues, just getting used to a non analog golfing life.

Are you finding value obtaining all the stats and has it changed the way you play? For example prior to Shot Scope you would play X club for a shot but now you play Y club.

 

 

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Are you finding value obtaining all the stats and has it changed the way you play? For example prior to Shot Scope you would play X club for a shot but now you play Y club.

 

 

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Yes it has changed what I do and how I think on the course. It has shown me that I always play far to short on approach shots and need to go up a club or two.

It has also shown me that I need to be more aggressive with my putting as I am short 77% of the time when I miss.

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In my :cobra-small: Ultralight Stand Bag:

Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1

Tracked By: :Arccos:

Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 for the #cobraconnectchallenge3

 

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Yes it has changed what I do and how I think on the course. It has shown me that I always play far to short on approach shots and need to go up a club or two.

It has also shown me that I need to be more aggressive with my putting as I am short 77% of the time when I miss.

Interesting how perception and reality can be very different. Thanks for the feedback.

 

 

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Driver - XXIO X Driver 9.5

:cleveland-small: - Launcher Turbo 2 hybrid

:cobra-small: - F9 One Length 3-G

:cleveland-small: - CBX 52 and 56

:EVNROLL: - ER 1.2

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After reading the blog today I thought I would post my current putting performance for the forum to critique...

 

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Those putting stats look solid. Does SS give you strokes gained putting or a putting handicap like Arccos does?


What's in the bag:
Driver - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
3 Wood (16*) - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
2 Iron - :mizuno-small: FliHi (18*) - Recoil 760 ( S )
4i - GW - :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S )
SW - LW - :cobra-small: F8 - N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour105 ( S )
Putter - :ping-small: Craz-e
Bag - :1590477705_SunMountain: 2.5 (Black)
Ball -  :srixon-small: Z-Star XV
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Those putting stats look solid. Does SS give you strokes gained putting or a putting handicap like Arccos does?

No it is straight data, nothing fancy like Arccos yet. Here are a couple more of the stats you get with putting.

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In my :cobra-small: Ultralight Stand Bag:

Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1

Tracked By: :Arccos:

Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 for the #cobraconnectchallenge3

 

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Yes it has changed what I do and how I think on the course. It has shown me that I always play far to short on approach shots and need to go up a club or two.

It has also shown me that I need to be more aggressive with my putting as I am short 77% of the time when I miss.

Changed my approach shots as they are too far from pin, plus putting stats show 88% are short!!! :(  never up never in, explains my average 37 putts.

 

Combined this stat info with a samm putt lesson and I expect now to be getting better, so it has been useful to have this knowledge.

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4 Wood   Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+  :callaway-small: Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex

Hybrid     Titleist 910H 19*    :titelist-small:   Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S'

Irons         Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW   :mizuno-small:  N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S'

Wedges    Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54*  :callaway-small:   KBS Tour in 'R'

Putter        'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5"

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After reading the blog today I thought I would post my current putting performance for the forum to critique...

 

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What your of phone do you have? My interface and stats don't look like that on my phone.

 

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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 (8*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff

Fairway:   :ping-small: G400 (14.5*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff

Irons: :ping-small: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft

            :titelist-small: AP3 (4/5) and AP2 (6-PW) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts

Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts

Putter:  :cameron-small: Pro Platinum Newport 2 Midslant

Handicap: 3

Location: Illinois...until i can get my wife to move to a warmer climate

Right Handed: Although sometimes I wonder if left handed would suit me better :blink:

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What your of phone do you have? My interface and stats don't look like that on my phone.

 

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Those shots are from the website on my phone, the app stats look different. I have a huawei P9 android.

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In my :cobra-small: Ultralight Stand Bag:

Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1

Tracked By: :Arccos:

Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 for the #cobraconnectchallenge3

 

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Are you finding value obtaining all the stats and has it changed the way you play? For example prior to Shot Scope you would play X club for a shot but now you play Y club.

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It's giving me much more confidence when I chose to go for it knowing that my club selection will go the distance.
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2020 MGS Hard Rock Challenge

 

SkyCaddie SX400
OGIO Silencer:  Followed by Arccos
:cobra-small: F9 TL, Atmos TS Blue
:nike-small: Vapor Fly 3, Diamana Blue, Covert 2.0 3H, Kuro Kage Black
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Wilson D7 Irons 4-GW,  Dynamic Gold AMT
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It really is like the proverbial light bulb moment. I would look at where I was on the hole and play from "experience", know I am armed with the right information and I am making much better club choices. It doesn't make me hit the ball better but at least I chose the right club to duff 😎🙃


 

In my :cobra-small: Ultralight Stand Bag:

Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1

Tracked By: :Arccos:

Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 for the #cobraconnectchallenge3

 

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It really is like the proverbial light bulb moment. I would look at where I was on the hole and play from "experience", know I am armed with the right information and I am making much better club choices. It doesn't make me hit the ball better but at least I chose the right club to duff

Does it record all the “duffs”, and then include that infor into the database?

 

For example, say you hit 10 shot with the 7 iron. You pure hit 3 of those 10 shots, to 150 yds.

Then say you hit 4 shots a bit chunky, to 120 yds.

Then say you duff 3 to 50 yds.

 

Does it take the avg distance of those ten shots, let's say 108 yds, and then when you're 110 yds out, does it recommend you hit your 7 iron?

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Does it record all the “duffs”, and then include that infor into the database?

 

For example, say you hit 10 shot with the 7 iron. You pure hit 3 of those 10 shots, to 150 yds.

Then say you hit 4 shots a bit chunky, to 120 yds.

Then say you duff 3 to 50 yds.

 

Does it take the avg distance of those ten shots, let's say 108 yds, and then when you're 110 yds out, does it recommend you hit your 7 iron?

Great question.  ShotScope doesn't make recommendations, they leave that part up to you.  The software only provides pure data. ShotScope does record almost every shot you hit, whether you duff it, shank it, or drill it right down the middle.  In the software, all of those results are recorded as a pure average distance which can be viewed in the performance section in the "clubs tab".  However, the system is intelligent. In that same section in the software also provides a performance average, or "p-avg." which effectively eliminates those bad misses, and gives you an accurate average of how far you hit individual clubs when they are struck well. 

 

For example, with some absolutely terrible misses including an encounter or two with a tree, my driver is averaging 219.  But my p-avg. is 261 which is much more indicative average of a well struck drive.  Or in another example my PW average is 118, versus a performance average of 130 which is much closer to how it performs when I am not mistakenly using it as a shovel.  

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2020 MGS Hard Rock Challenge

 

SkyCaddie SX400
OGIO Silencer:  Followed by Arccos
:cobra-small: F9 TL, Atmos TS Blue
:nike-small: Vapor Fly 3, Diamana Blue, Covert 2.0 3H, Kuro Kage Black
:wilson-small:
Wilson D7 Irons 4-GW,  Dynamic Gold AMT
:ping-small: Glide  52, 56 ES
:EVNROLL: ER2
:bridgestone-small: BXS

Romans 10:9

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Does it record all the “duffs”, and then include that infor into the database?

 

For example, say you hit 10 shot with the 7 iron. You pure hit 3 of those 10 shots, to 150 yds.

Then say you hit 4 shots a bit chunky, to 120 yds.

Then say you duff 3 to 50 yds.

 

Does it take the avg distance of those ten shots, let's say 108 yds, and then when you're 110 yds out, does it recommend you hit your 7 iron?

 

I've used the ShotScope V1 & V2 iterations and there is a "positional shot" tag option built into the interface that (when appropriately utilized) makes your stats much more relevant

 

Example: You find yourself under a tree, 220 yards from the hole with a creek short of the green. The lie is poor and the tree keeps you from making a full swing. You decide to punch a 4-iron from beneath the tree to a safe spot in the fairway short of the creek (170 yard shot). In the process of editing your round, if you don't tag this play as a positional shot, the 170 yard punch will not only misconstrue your distance average; it will also screw up your proximity stats with that club. In essence, the punch shot was the correct play and you executed it perfectly; but ShotScope doesn't automatically recognize the intent and assumes you made a bad swing that ended up over 150 feet from the hole. Most golfers will experience a similar scenario at least once a round (if not several times).

 

I typically have about a half dozen shots during a normal round that need to be tagged as positional. If I didn't go back and appropriately tag those shots, my data would be a useless mess. Moral of the Data - _anytime_ the hole is not your target (excluding tee balls on par 4/5s), the shot should accordingly be tagged as positional. The nuance of intent requires careful deliberation if you are serious about using ShotScope data to accurately assess your abilities.

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:nickent-small:________3DX 17* - Matrix Ozik Altus Hybrid SG
:adams-small:_Super Proto DHY 21* - Matrix Ozik Altus hX3 S
:adams-small: _Idea MB2 4-PW - Matrix Program 130 6.5
:cleveland-small:_________RTX 52.10  56.12 - DG S400
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With out the "positional" option all of your averages would be wrong. As I said editing is very important.

Also its a great way to show off your round in the clubhouse :D

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In my :cobra-small: Ultralight Stand Bag:

Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1

Tracked By: :Arccos:

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That positional shot is something I really wish Arccos had. Not so much for the yardages because the smart distance removes outliers, but more for handicapping parts of your game. I've had a few excellent punch shots counted as "poor" because it's only looking at club, distance, and distance to hole. The driving handicap isn't affected in these cases even though it's the root cause of missing the green.

 

But I suppose neither solution is perfect on their own. Hopefully the competition between the two helps create better products for the mass population.

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I hope all of the testers have done the firmware update, looks like they have fixed one of the issues I had noticed and we will be able to use it as a watch (possibly)

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In my :cobra-small: Ultralight Stand Bag:

Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1

Tracked By: :Arccos:

Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 for the #cobraconnectchallenge3

 

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I hope all of the testers have done the firmware update, looks like they have fixed one of the issues I had noticed and we will be able to use it as a watch (possibly)

Brownie points for the ShotScope team. That was an issue for me too.


2020 MGS Hard Rock Challenge

 

SkyCaddie SX400
OGIO Silencer:  Followed by Arccos
:cobra-small: F9 TL, Atmos TS Blue
:nike-small: Vapor Fly 3, Diamana Blue, Covert 2.0 3H, Kuro Kage Black
:wilson-small:
Wilson D7 Irons 4-GW,  Dynamic Gold AMT
:ping-small: Glide  52, 56 ES
:EVNROLL: ER2
:bridgestone-small: BXS

Romans 10:9

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