Looking for a new driver

[WardenGolf]

Hello fellow golfers! I am currently looking into buying a new driver, I recently bought the Conra F8 but immediately hated it. The person I bought it from took it back for a full return. I am looking into getting either the Taylormade M4 or the Ping G400 Max, does anyone have expierence with either driver? I typically add a lot of spin to the ball, so I would like a drive to cut back on that a little.

[TSauer]

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I think the shaft is the key component of a driver.

If you did not like the shots you were producing with the Cobra F8 driver, the shaft it had was likely not a good fit for your swing. If you are looking for a new driver I suggest making the shaft your primary focus of interest.

Disagree completely.

 

A shaft isn't going to reduce spin more than getting the right head.

 

Any reputable fitter will start by fitting into the right head and then fine tune with a shaft.

[fozcycle]

Disagree.....you need to try several shafts to find the right kick point....if the F8 Head did not work (as it is weighted to elim slight sliced) did you try the F8+? It is made for higher swing speeds.

 

 

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[jaskanski]

Plenty of different opinions (of course lol) but either way, any reputable fitter *cough* would match the right shaft and head to meet your requirements - whatever that may be.

If you've got your radar set on the M4 and/or the G400 the good news is they are both excellent drivers. The bad news is that over 80% of golfers still buy off the rack without getting properly fitted. If you're going down the same route as the experience with the F8 and buying first and regretting later, then I'd say you're in the 80% bracket and a bit of a chump. Do yourself a favour and get yourself properly fitted (and I mean properly fitted) and you'll see an instant improvement in your driving. By being properly fitted, I mean weight, length, loft, bend profile and flex in that order - not by some "expert" swapping shafts in a store until you find a combination that is acceptable. 

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[WardenGolf]

For those who said to try the F8+ or a smaller head. I have only been fitted for a drive once about a year ago. But I forgot my swing speed. I know I am on the fringe of extra stiff/stiff. My 7 iron swing speed hovers around 104-105, which is why i use extra stiff irons.

[cnosil]

For those who said to try the F8+ or a smaller head. I have only been fitted for a drive once about a year ago. But I forgot my swing speed. I know I am on the fringe of extra stiff/stiff. My 7 iron swing speed hovers around 104-105, which is why i use extra stiff irons.

 

 

If you are 104 with 7 iron,  you should be 120-125ish with driver which would be well into X-Stiff, maybe stiffer..   I have seen people say 107ish is the point at which you may be shifting over if you are looking solely at swing speed.

 

If you want spin reduction,  I would suggest M3 with weights forward.    

[newballcoach]

For those who said to try the F8+ or a smaller head. I have only been fitted for a drive once about a year ago. But I forgot my swing speed. I know I am on the fringe of extra stiff/stiff. My 7 iron swing speed hovers around 104-105, which is why i use extra stiff irons.

 

That fringe is highly dependent on many factors, including the individual type of shaft. Each shaft company has a different threshold for stiffness.

[chisag]

Hello fellow golfers! I am currently looking into buying a new driver, I recently bought the Conra F8 but immediately hated it. The person I bought it from took it back for a full return. I am looking into getting either the Taylormade M4 or the Ping G400 Max, does anyone have expierence with either driver? I typically add a lot of spin to the ball, so I would like a drive to cut back on that a little.

 

 

... Inquiring minds want to now. What did you hate about the Conra F8? 

[DPattGolf]

For those who said to try the F8+ or a smaller head. I have only been fitted for a drive once about a year ago. But I forgot my swing speed. I know I am on the fringe of extra stiff/stiff. My 7 iron swing speed hovers around 104-105, which is why i use extra stiff irons.

105?!?! And I thought my peak of 100mph with a 130 gram shaft 7iron was fast!!!

[PMookie]

The guy at Club Champion I worked with said the Ping G400 has been the best driver for fitting that they see. He said they for more to the M3 than M4, due to adjustability.

 

 

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[Freedom85]

I'll agree with everyone that says get properly fitted.  I did this year for the first time and it was a great experience.  I ended up buying something totally different that what I would have bought off the rack and the results (+ 20 yards, about 3 more fairways a round and much less punishing mis-hits) speak for themselves.  A quote from one of my regular foursome (and he didn't know that I could hear him) - "he's out with the big boys now".  Not that it should matter to you but I ended up with the Ping G400 (not the Max although that's what I thought I wanted) with a regular flex Alta CB shaft (thought I wanted the Aldila X-Torsion).  The fitting also included Callaway, TaylorMade, Titleist and Cobra.

[WardenGolf]

... Inquiring minds want to now. What did you hate about the Conra F8?

Every time I miss hit, which for me is normally the heel of the club, the F8 would shred my golf balls. I would pick them up with gouges. I don't know if I'm the only one that has had this happen. I also didn't feel confident hitting it for some reason.

[WardenGolf]

The guy at Club Champion I worked with said the Ping G400 has been the best driver for fitting that they see. He said they for more to the M3 than M4, due to adjustability.

 

 

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So I found out that the golf shop by me (Chris Cote's) does free driver fittings. I brought my F8 in and he got me fitted. I hit a few times and he set me up to test the M4, M3, G400 and Rogue. Swing Speed hovers around 101-102 when I have a good swing. I can tell you right now that the G400 was the most forgiving driver out of the 4. I loved the rouge, but for the price point I feel like it's not $100 better than the G400. The M3 didn't feel right. He had me hit the M4 D Type and I immediately started hitting everything way left. In the end I happily bought the Ping G400, 440CC, Extra Stiff 70G. Best drive I have ever hit.

[JohnnyPenso]

So I found out that the golf shop by me (Chris Cote's) does free driver fittings. I brought my F8 in and he got me fitted. I hit a few times and he set me up to test the M4, M3, G400 and Rogue. Swing Speed hovers around 101-102 when I have a good swing. I can tell you right now that the G400 was the most forgiving driver out of the 4. I loved the rouge, but for the price point I feel like it's not $100 better than the G400. The M3 didn't feel right. He had me hit the M4 D Type and I immediately started hitting everything way left. In the end I happily bought the Ping G400, 440CC, Extra Stiff 70G. Best drive I have ever hit.

I'm curious as to what the fitter's feedback was when you hit the M4 way left.  There's absolutely nothing about the head of that driver that would produce a way left shot.  Did he suggest a shaft change at all?

[newballcoach]

I'm curious as to what the fitter's feedback was when you hit the M4 way left.  There's absolutely nothing about the head of that driver that would produce a way left shot.  Did he suggest a shaft change at all?

 

He said he was hitting the D-type, which is their slice fighting driver. It's probably more closed than the others, which would be why he was hitting it left. Seems odd they didn't try a regular M4 though.

[Kanoito]

Swing Speed hovers around 101-102 when I have a good swing.

So is 107 your 7 iron SS or 102 your driver SS? One of them has to be wrong...

[WardenGolf]

So is 107 your 7 iron SS or 102 your driver SS? One of them has to be wrong...

My first couple swings just starting with my 7 iron, during my iron fitting were around 107, with my old irons that were not properly fitted. My guy put me in some XStiff Mizunos and the speed dropped to around 102-101. With my new Ping my SS jumped up to around 108. It was a simple case of not getting fitted properly the first time around. If I'm really swinging I can get 110.

[TR1PTIK]

Hello fellow golfers! I am currently looking into buying a new driver, I recently bought the Conra F8 but immediately hated it. The person I bought it from took it back for a full return. I am looking into getting either the Taylormade M4 or the Ping G400 Max, does anyone have expierence with either driver? I typically add a lot of spin to the ball, so I would like a drive to cut back on that a little.

 

Spent the previous eight months of my life working part time in a pro shop that carries Titleist and Ping. It's hard to do much better than the current lineup of Ping drivers. If you truly wanted to knock off some spin, you could easily go G400 LST. Even though the standard G400 heads are less forgiving than the Max, they are still very forgiving compared to other OEMs. If you're set on the G400 Max though I'm sure you could find a shaft that would help with the spin.

 

No experience with the M4 so I won't comment other than to say that I like the way it looks. The 2016 M2 is still my favorite of all the M drivers though.