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Has there been any real testing on which balls are "straighter"?  I know that balls generally can only go as straight as the swing you put on it but there are some mitigating factors with technology.  In my experience non-urethane balls appear to curve less off the driver for me.  Wilson claims the DUO series are the "straightest and longest", I'm just wondering if there is any real data to back that up?

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Grain of salt.

Most mfg's all make the same claims to one degree or another IMO. Straighter, longer, more spin, faster, less spin, more forgiving, easier hitting, more, less, ultimate, best and on and on and on.

You're best test will be for you to go play the DUO of whatever flavor and decide for yourself.

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I'd love to see MGS get their testers together, pound a couple thousand balls off the tee and really see what differences there are with different balls and how far away they end up from the center line.  Real ball data, on real course courses. 

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Played the Wilson FG Tour balls, to me it was easier to move the ball around, and go straight when needed.

But around the greens, could not stop them like the Tour BXS

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Of course they have data - when hit 1.457 up with a square club head at a swing speed of exactly 92.3737456 the Wilson ball is the straightest and longest around.

 

 

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Basically ignore all marketing claims and play what works best for you.

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Basically ignore all marketing claims and play what works best for you.

But don't stock up as the new and improved versions will be out shortly that promise to be even straighter than this year's version

 

 

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As a high handicap player with a fairly slow swing speed, I can't hit Pro V1s. I hit my driver pretty straight, but I constantly slice the Pro V1 off the tee. I mostly play ionomer covered balls, for cost reasons.

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As a high handicap player with a fairly slow swing speed, I can't hit Pro V1s. I hit my driver pretty straight, but I constantly slice the Pro V1 off the tee. I mostly play ionomer covered balls, for cost reasons.

Why can't you hit Pro V1's? I can hit every ball made.

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As a high handicap player with a fairly slow swing speed, I can't hit Pro V1s. I hit my driver pretty straight, but I constantly slice the Pro V1 off the tee. I mostly play ionomer covered balls, for cost reasons.

im a high handicapper with a slow swing speed (84 mph) and play pro v 1. I can't imagine your slicing pro v1 is due to the ball but instead a swing flaw.

 

 

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As a high handicap player with a fairly slow swing speed, I can't hit Pro V1s. I hit my driver pretty straight, but I constantly slice the Pro V1 off the tee. I mostly play ionomer covered balls, for cost reasons.

I can't imagine the Pro V1 causes the slice but for a slower swing speed player it might be to high of compression.

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Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

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I don't know.  My thought was that maybe I don't compress the ball enough at impact.  I usually hit my driver pretty straight, but I was using Pro V1s and all my drives were slicing.  I didn't hit 1 straight shot.  I went back to my cheap 2 piece balls and the ball flight went back to straight.  It could just be coincidence.  

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I don't know. My thought was that maybe I don't compress the ball enough at impact. I usually hit my driver pretty straight, but I was using Pro V1s and all my drives were slicing. I didn't hit 1 straight shot. I went back to my cheap 2 piece balls and the ball flight went back to straight. It could just be coincidence.

Prob coincidence and small sample size. If you hit the ball straight, it should go straight no matter the ball. However, if you slice, it will be more pronounced with a ProV1 vs a two piece. Just the same way if you are a "good player" and can work the ball on command, the ball will move more with a tour level ball.

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... There are certainly balls that spin less causing problems around the green, pitches will run out as well as full mid irons having difficulty holding greens. But they do also spin considerably less off the driver which will not eliminate a slice, but will reduce one. Bridgestone E6 is a good example. 

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You probably were swinging too hard....back off and swing easy, like The PGA Legend Julius Boros, Swing Easy Hit Hard.

 

 

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I picked up some Wilson Duo Soft Spin balls. I'll report back if during my non-scientific testing I find them any straighter.

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I like using Wilson's as I'm currently gaming the Staff Fifty Elite. I picked up some used ones at at Walmart because I wanted to try out the Duo's without spending a lot of money. Some of the Elites were mixed in and I seem to hit them long and straight. Could be mental, but they work for me.

 

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Has there been any real testing on which balls are "straighter"? I know that balls generally can only go as straight as the swing you put on it but there are some mitigating factors with technology. In my experience non-urethane balls appear to curve less off the driver for me. Wilson claims the DUO series are the "straightest and longest", I'm just wondering if there is any real data to back that up?

I game the Wilson Duo. I can't honestly say one way or another whether they're straighter. I can still rip a wicked slice with them. That being said, I have been keeping more on the fairway since I switched. And yes, they are loooonnnggg. I've recorded drives of 336 and 309 with driver, and last weekend hit my 3 hybrid off the tee 246 yards.

 

 

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I game the Wilson Duo. I can't honestly say one way or another whether they're straighter. I can still rip a wicked slice with them. That being said, I have been keeping more on the fairway since I switched. And yes, they are loooonnnggg. I've recorded drives of 336 and 309 with driver, and last weekend hit my 3 hybrid off the tee 246 yards.

 

 

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What is your swing speed?

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What is your swing speed?

Between 95-100 with Driver

 

 

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On ‎8‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 3:37 AM, madi05 said:

The math does not add up for your long yardage and average swing speed

 

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he forgot to mention the 90mph tail wind

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These claims are kinda like the bars and restaurants who advertise "coldest beer in town". If you're willing to believe the advertisement, then it worked. Golf balls are all about personal preference and it's all about finding a ball that works for you.

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On 8/17/2018 at 4:37 AM, madi05 said:

The math does not add up for your long yardage and average swing speed

 

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Maybe a little wind, but it could be the ground is rock hard. I’ve hit some crazy long tee shots the last couple weeks, some up around 320, swing speed is 105. No wind, rock hard fairway, the ball carries a bit longer with the temps we’ve been having, and the ball rolls for 60 yards. Carry distance about 260. Hole 12 at the course is 525, I had 207 the other day. Don’t put some down about math and such, course conditions play a huge factor in distance on drives. Even for the pros, you see on he sheet the DJ hit one 420, what they don’t say is that it landed at 300 and rolled down a hill another 120 yards. I wouldn’t say that my average is 320 like DJ, its more like 270, but occasionally I hit one really good with the correct conditions and have a really long tee shot. I like to think that the poster who said that is saying that he did hit one 336 and 309, but that’s not his normal, or average. 

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On 7/3/2018 at 6:50 AM, Txmason123 said:

It could just be coincidence

Or confidence.

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