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I'm burned out on the Tiger "Worshipers"

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I can take the heat for still rooting for the Tiger.

 

I've gone to different regions on holiday wearing a Tom Brady jersey.

 

That goes over big as well.

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Yes sir. Pretty much sums everything up. The PGA will have the highest ratings, same as all of the playoffs while Tiger is there.

 

He is golf, no way around it. Brings the spectators out that don't care for the current generation.

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Yes sir. Pretty much sums everything up. The PGA will have the highest ratings, same as all of the playoffs while Tiger is there.

 

He is golf, no way around it. Brings the spectators out that don't care for the current generation.

As I've said on m weekly radio spot several times,  well I stole the line, but it's very true "Tiger doesn't move the needle, he IS the needle"

 

I know we all have differing opinions and that's great, it really is.   But I have hard time understanding some others...just as they probably don't understand mine.   I just don't understand all the dislike (I won't use the hate word, as it's such a cliche) for Tiger, Rory and Jordan.   Outside of Tiger's past personal issues, which I don't think anyone would condone, what is it about those three that drive people to dislike them so much?   Are they tired of seeing them win?   They are certainly not "bad" people from anything I've seen.again leaving Tigers's past in the past, but I know some can't do that.  

 

The only I thing I hate about Rory and Jordan...ooops I said it, is seeing them miss 3 foot putts that really seem to derail their efforts at the worst possible times.   it appeared until Sunday that Jordan had that licked.  Rory too for the most part.    He may have missed a ton of 8 to 10 foooters, but not not many "gimmees" that I saw. 

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I just don't understand all the dislike (I won't use the hate word, as it's such a cliche) for Tiger, Rory and Jordan.   Outside of Tiger's past personal issues, which I don't think anyone would condone, what is it about those three that drive people to dislike them so much?   Are they tired of seeing them win?   They are certainly not "bad" people from anything I've semen...again leaving Tigers's past in the past, but I know some can't do that. 

 

I can fairly easily sum up why I will always root for anyone but Tiger and Jordan (and to a lesser extent, Rory and JT). I call it the Michael Jordan effect. The media has clearly (perhaps justifiably) determined that I am interested in all things Tiger or all things Jordan. I am not, so in my mind, they suffer from over-exposure. When Tiger and Jordan are in the hunt, like yesterday, I do not mind seeing most, if not all their shots - it's the benefit of being in one of the last groups. But when they are not in contention, I have no desire to see their every move. I want to see whoever is playing well, as long as it isn't Cantlay. I'm not tired of seeing them win, just tired of seeing them, period. Of course, these are just my opinions and feelings on the matter.

 

I will add that I was sort of pulling for Tiger (once it became clear Fleetwood wasn't going to win me the Wilson/Staff Challenge) because of the bigger picture, history of the game, not necessarily because I'm a fan of his.

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As I've said on m weekly radio spot several times, well I stole the line, but it's very true "Tiger doesn't move the needle, he IS the needle"

 

I know we all have differing opinions and that's great, it really is. But I have hard time understanding some others...just as they probably don't understand mine. I just don't understand all the dislike (I won't use the hate word, as it's such a cliche) for Tiger, Rory and Jordan. Outside of Tiger's past personal issues, which I don't think anyone would condone, what is it about those three that drive people to dislike them so much? Are they tired of seeing them win? They are certainly not "bad" people from anything I've semen...again leaving Tigers's past in the past, but I know some can't do that.

 

The only I thing I hate about Rory and Jordan...ooops I said it, is seeing them miss 3 foot putts that really seem to derail their efforts at the worst possible times. it appeared until Sunday that Jordan had that licked. Rory too for the most part. He may have missed a ton of 8 to 10 foooters, but not not many "gimmees" that I saw.

We all know I don't care for JS. But I think it is the media created persona of him I don't like, not him general. I have a feeling it's the same with Tiger. Sure he did some stupid stuff, but it makes no difference to me. I am not his buddy, his family, the people who actually matter in his personal life. I really could care less. He is probably the greatest sports figure of my lifetime. That doesn't come around very often.

 

Just like the guys wife that beat him up last month, who cares? It is none of my business or anyone else's for that matter.

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I can fairly easily sum up why I will always root for anyone but Tiger and Jordan (and to a lesser extent, Rory and JT). I call it the Michael Jordan effect. The media has clearly (perhaps justifiably) determined that I am interested in all things Tiger or all things Jordan. I am not, so in my mind, they suffer from over-exposure. When Tiger and Jordan are in the hunt, like yesterday, I do not mind seeing most, if not all their shots - it's the benefit of being in one of the last groups. But when they are not in contention, I have no desire to see their every move. I want to see whoever is playing well, as long as it isn't Cantlay. I'm not tired of seeing them win, just tired of seeing them, period. Of course, these are just my opinions and feelings on the matter.

 

I will add that I was sort of pulling for Tiger (once it became clear Fleetwood wasn't going to win me the Wilson/Staff Challenge) because of the bigger picture, history of the game, not necessarily because I'm a fan of his.

"as long as it isn't Cantlay"

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I can fairly easily sum up why I will always root for anyone but Tiger and Jordan (and to a lesser extent, Rory and JT). I call it the Michael Jordan effect. The media has clearly (perhaps justifiably) determined that I am interested in all things Tiger or all things Jordan. I am not, so in my mind, they suffer from over-exposure. When Tiger and Jordan are in the hunt, like yesterday, I do not mind seeing most, if not all their shots - it's the benefit of being in one of the last groups. But when they are not in contention, I have no desire to see their every move. I want to see whoever is playing well, as long as it isn't Cantlay. I'm not tired of seeing them win, just tired of seeing them, period. Of course, these are just my opinions and feelings on the matter.

 

I will add that I was sort of pulling for Tiger (once it became clear Fleetwood wasn't going to win me the Wilson/Staff Challenge) because of the bigger picture, history of the game, not necessarily because I'm a fan of his.

Ok, I get your point on the media determining what you want to see, and I kind of used to feel that way as well, until I started working in it--granted on a very limited basis--trust me the producers and directors aren't trying to read your mind.  They are going off proven ratings viewer feedback.  I was surprised, probably shouldn't have been, there are a lot more and I mean a lot more casual fans of every sport than there are die hard fans of every sport.   Take this forum for example, we are probably the most informed (along with other golf forums) and educated golf viewers around, but yet in big pool of TV ratings, we are a drop in the pond.   It's that way for football, basketball and baseball as well.   So in most cases the networks are giving the masses what they want.   You'd be surprised how many "casual" golf fans work at my course.   Many of our staff don't watch golf on a regular basis and don't know players outside the top 10 or 15, but if Tiger is playing, they will make sure to watch or at the very least try to find out what how he did.  

 

It's the same wayin our town and radio with the Redskins, I don't really want to hear talk radio about them 7 days a week in April, May and June during each show.  But that's what the emails, phone calls and ratings show.  They'd rather here talk about the Redskins backup QB than the Nationals or until this year the Capitals.  it took them winning the Stanley Cup to knock the Redskins off the top story for the first time in years.  

 

"as long as it isn't Cantlay"

Ok, I gotta know,  Two of you said this about Cantlay?   Why?

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Ok, I get your point on the media determining what you want to see, and I kind of used to feel that way as well, until I started working in it--granted on a very limited basis--trust me the producers and directors aren't trying to read your mind. They are going off proven ratings viewer feedback. I was surprised, probably shouldn't have been, there are a lot more and I mean a lot more casual fans of every sport than there are die hard fans of every sport. Take this forum for example, we are probably the most informed (along with other golf forums) and educated golf viewers around, but yet in big pool of TV ratings, we are a drop in the pond. It's that way for football, basketball and baseball as well. So in most cases the networks are giving the masses what they want. You'd be surprised how many "casual" golf fans work at my course. Many of our staff don't watch golf on a regular basis and don't know players outside the top 10 or 15, but if Tiger is playing, they will make sure to watch or at the very least try to find out what how he did.

 

It's the same wayin our town and radio with the Redskins, I don't really want to hear talk radio about them 7 days a week in April, May and June during each show. But that's what the emails, phone calls and ratings show. They'd rather here talk about the Redskins backup QB than the Nationals or until this year the Capitals. it took them winning the Stanley Cup to knock the Redskins off the top story for the first time in years.

 

Ok, I gotta know, Two of you said this about Cantlay? Why?

I can't stand watching the 60 second shuffle.I don't mind if he plays well just as long as they cut to him as he's about to pull the trigger. He just dances forever. Makes a 2 footer into a dramatic moment though
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I'll put this here...

Tiger will never win another tournament.. just maybe, a small insignificant one maybe. But not a major or big tourney w/main players.

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Ok, I gotta know, Two of you said this about Cantlay? Why?

In addition to gaussman's answer, I'll add the look on his face. He always looks someone just made him eat a sh*t sandwich. I don't know why it bugs me, because I don't expect them to be all smiles, all day, but he always looks especially sour.

 

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Another one that never really looks happy to be out there is Dufner...

 

He's like the antithesis of Kuchar.

 

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Dufner won my vote for best personality on tour last year. He's right on par for 2018 too.

 

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A good sleeper pick for the PGA too.

 

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I'll put this here...

Tiger will never win another tournament.. just maybe, a small insignificant one maybe. But not a major or big tourney w/main players.

Really? I thought his swing actually looked better and better as the Open went on, particularly with the irons. I've been a skeptic all season but I think he's close and won't be surprised to see him win soon
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I'll put this here...

Tiger will never win another tournament.. just maybe, a small insignificant one maybe. But not a major or big tourney w/main players.

Yea... This seems like a really refined take right here. The guy who just finished T6 at the Open and had the lead outright at one point on Sunday has no shot to ever win another meaningful golf tournament  :blink: 

Despite the fact that he's barely 6 months into a comeback where he was almost bed ridden and had trouble walking a little over a year ago.  

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Ok, I gotta know,  Two of you said this about Cantlay?   Why?

I'm with Gaussman and everyone else here. I think Cantlay has miles of game and I really enjoy seeing his shots. Just don't make me watch any of the lead up to the shots. It TAKES FOREVER. 

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As I've said on m weekly radio spot several times, well I stole the line, but it's very true "Tiger doesn't move the needle, he IS the needle"

 

I know we all have differing opinions and that's great, it really is. But I have hard time understanding some others...just as they probably don't understand mine. I just don't understand all the dislike (I won't use the hate word, as it's such a cliche) for Tiger, Rory and Jordan. Outside of Tiger's past personal issues, which I don't think anyone would condone, what is it about those three that drive people to dislike them so much? Are they tired of seeing them win? They are certainly not "bad" people from anything I've seen.again leaving Tigers's past in the past, but I know some can't do that.

 

The only I thing I hate about Rory and Jordan...ooops I said it, is seeing them miss 3 foot putts that really seem to derail their efforts at the worst possible times. it appeared until Sunday that Jordan had that licked. Rory too for the most part. He may have missed a ton of 8 to 10 foooters, but not not many "gimmees" that I saw.

reread the title of this thread. The sickness is not at Tiger, but at the people who worship him. I don't believe I've said a negative word against Tiger here honestly. If I did then it's probably out of frustration for those that live and die by ever breath the man takes.

 

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Sorry I can't just share the link since I am mobile.

 

In not so surprising news, Golf Channel and NBC saw record numbers during their coverage of the 2018 Open Championship. There is a very easy explanation for this: Tiger Woods.

 

Woods was not only in contention on Sunday, he led the tournament for a while on the back nine.

 

The first round of The Open on Thursday, which earned a 0.79 overnight rating, was the most watched in its three years on Golf Channel. It was also the most-watched Thursday ever, and the fifth best total day record for the channel between 2006 and 2018. To make things even more impressive, Golf Channel was the number one rated cable sports network for the day by 9%, and from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. Eastern it was the number one cable sports network by 314%.

 

Friday coverage of the second round was just as impressive, earning a 0.87 overnight rating. The early round coverage was up 4% over 2017, and was up 11% for the day, making it the most-watched weekday broadcast since the 2016 Ryder Cup Friday.

 

The third round on Saturday earned a 3.0 overnight rating, which was up 25% over 2017. It was the highest third round rating since 2013 when Phil Mickelson won, and the second highest overnight rating in a major in 2018 (the Masters leads that category). TV viewership was up 21% over 2017, and streaming viewership was up 23% over 2017.

 

The final round on Sunday is where things get even more impressive and show just how much Tiger Woods being in contention on Sunday in a major means to the sport. Sure Jordan Spieth and Rory McIlroy were in the hunt, but Tiger moves the needle.

 

NBC Sports' final round coverage saw the best ratings for The Open Championship in 18 years with a 5.0 overnight rating. It is the highest final round overnight rating since Tiger completed the career grand slam in 2000 (which earned a 7.4 overnight rating on ABC). NBC's coverage was also up a staggering 38% over 2017 when Jordan Spieth won at Royal Birkdale. This was the highest rated final round for any major championship since 2015, not including the Masters, when Jason Day's win at Whistling Straights in the PGA Championship earned a 5.1.

 

Tiger Woods is back, and fans of the sport aren't the only ones who are happy. NBC Sports could not have asked for a better weekend.

 

 

 

 

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We all know I don't care for JS. But I think it is the media created persona of him I don't like, not him general. I have a feeling it's the same with Tiger. Sure he did some stupid stuff, but it makes no difference to me. I am not his buddy, his family, the people who actually matter in his personal life. I really could care less. He is probably the greatest sports figure of my lifetime. That doesn't come around very often.

 

Just like the guys wife that beat him up last month, who cares? It is none of my business or anyone else's for that matter.

Even though you aren't his close family or friends, how do you root for that? Some people hate on Poulter and Bubba because they don't like them as a person. How is it any different with Tiger? Just because he is a great athlete he should get a free pass? Say Lebron James did some "stupid stuff"; should he get a free pass? Does talent outweigh personality?

I won't argue that he is great for the sport and golf in general though.

I know I may be in the minority here.

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