fixyurdivot 8,385 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I have nothing against Tiger Woods other than I've just never been a fan that pulls for him in tournaments (outside Ryder Cup). I like a handful of his competitors better and that's who I root for. What really spoiled me on TW's was the absolute slobbering drool-fest by the media during his peak years. It was Tiger 24/7/365 which, to those of us who are not his adherent fan base, is off-putting. As someone has already pointed out, to look at this morning's news clips, one would think Tiger had won the Quicken Loans event. "Molinari wins" was 3 pages deep for hell sake; darn near in the obituaries. The same thing with Webb Simson's win at the Players Championship and Koepka's win at the U.S. Open (with Tiger cruising back down the Atlantic coast aboard Privacy having missed the cut). Yes, TW's is a greatest player in the modern era. Yes, he has brought along with him a huge impact to the sport; especially with rejuvenating interest with younger folks during a period that the sport was somewhat stagnant if not losing interest. Yes, it's both amazing and exciting to see him come back to tour play when many wondered if that was ever going to happen. But a modicum of balance from the media would sure be nice... just saying. 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver | Official 2019 MGS Tester G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w G410 Irons 4-UW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) B61 Putter Link to post Share on other sites
Undershooter 4,037 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Imo fox covers golf the best of that group when it comes to showing more golf. Not a lot of the fluff pieces or cutaways to the studio/desk guys. I 100% agree. People's hatred for their coverage makes very little sense to me. NBC seems to be the second best and CBS runs purely off narratives, tap ins and the occasional shot "from a moment ago." Although all of them could get better and do a better job of showing more golf. Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ Diamana Ahina 80X 44" Fairway Metal- Tour Edge Exotics XCG7 Beta 3W 13* w/ Matrix 7m4 X 42.5" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP-18 FLI HI 3i and 4i w/ KBS C-taper lite X Mizuno MP59 5i and 6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 56* bent to 55* w/ rifle spinner shafts and Titleist Vokey 60* M grind Putter- Never Compromise Dinero Mogul Ball- Bridgestone Tour B XS Bag- Ogio Aquatech Cart Bag Link to post Share on other sites
Brjpool 199 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 He is a big draw to the game for hard core fans and casual fans alike, which is why he is covered so much. I get the able your coming from because it does sometimes detract from the very talented young golfers who were getting covered while tiger was injured but it's just like LeBron for basketball or Tom Brady for football. Whether you like them or hate them, they attract people to the game. Plus if you're a hardcore fan you can find plenty of coverage of the great field of young golfers who are the present and future of the game Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote Bryan Pool Ping G20 Driver Bombtech hybrids Ping G20 green dot irons/wedges Cleveland Huntington beach 6 putter Link to post Share on other sites
Kanoito 2,324 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Thank you for Sky Sports! 1 Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to post Share on other sites
MaxEntropy 6,515 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I 100% agree. People's hatred for their coverage makes very little sense to me. NBC seems to be the second best and CBS runs purely off narratives, tap ins and the occasional shot "from a moment ago." Although all of them could get better and do a better job of showing more golf. My only complaint about fox revolves around Joe Buck. Sent from my BLN-L24 using MyGolfSpy mobile app 3 Quote Driver: Tour B JGR 9.5* Recoil 460ES cut to 45" 3W: Tour B JGR 15* Recoil 460ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-PW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 AW: S5 52* SW: 588 LW: MD3 Putter: Stroke Lab Marxman Bag: Tour B Stand Bag Ball: Z-Star Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Tester Starting Driver Speed on PRGR Monitor: 102 mph Final Driver Speed (end of Level 2): 120 mph Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 4,784 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I 100% agree. People's hatred for their coverage makes very little sense to me. NBC seems to be the second best and CBS runs purely off narratives, tap ins and the occasional shot "from a moment ago." Although all of them could get better and do a better job of showing more golf. Imo fox has the best announce crew top to bottom outside of holly (great to look at, terrible at interviews) and their use of technology and the amount of actual golf I much prefer them. Now that feherty is gone from cbs I have no one on that side I like. NBC/golf channel has a bunch of good tools but they aren't on tv at the same time. Give me duval over Miller, steve sands or savarikas in the booth with him. Oberholser and Maliby on the course with feherty whenever 1 Quote Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4 Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125 Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
GolfSpy MPR 9,491 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Seems relevant: https://twitter.com/brianwacker1/status/1013582910333620225?s=19 3 Quote Epic Flash Sub Zero, 9°, Aldila Rogue White 70 X M4 3HL 16.5°, Atmos Red 60 F6 5-6W, 19.5°, Fujikura Motore 6.3 CBX 20°, Project X HZRDUS 85 5.5 699 Pro, Modus3 105, 5–PW Forged Black 50°, 54°, and 58° Stroke Lab EXO Seven Mini, 34" Z-Star XV Link to post Share on other sites
Undershooter 4,037 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Thank you for Sky Sports! Quit bragging <_ lol> I'd seriously pay for their coverage of PGA events if I could. 2 Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ Diamana Ahina 80X 44" Fairway Metal- Tour Edge Exotics XCG7 Beta 3W 13* w/ Matrix 7m4 X 42.5" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP-18 FLI HI 3i and 4i w/ KBS C-taper lite X Mizuno MP59 5i and 6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 56* bent to 55* w/ rifle spinner shafts and Titleist Vokey 60* M grind Putter- Never Compromise Dinero Mogul Ball- Bridgestone Tour B XS Bag- Ogio Aquatech Cart Bag Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post revkev 22,004 Posted July 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2018 The fact that the thread was started and that it has evoked so many impassioned reactions speaks for itself. News and Sports on TV are entertainment - they show what moves the needle. Tiger moves the needle. To the OP. I could well have started this thread a year or two ago even though I'm more a Tiger lover than hater. Like others I wish the Networks played more golf. But having gone to Valspar 11 out of the past 12 years and seeing the difference in the gallery this year compared to others? Oh my is a competitive Tiger good for golf. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 10 Quote Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex Ping G410 5-9 wood G30 6-PW - Aerotech FT 500 shafts SCOR 48,52,56,60 EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Link to post Share on other sites
blackngold_blood 4,007 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 My only complaint about fox revolves around Joe Buck. Sent from my BLN-L24 using MyGolfSpy mobile app I know this is a Tiger thread but I can't LIKE this enough! 2 Quote What is in my Bag Boy Revolver Driver: PXG Gen2 0811x 10.5* set to small + with a VA Composites Nemesys 55s @ 44.75" Fairway: F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Irons: Testing the Titleist T200 irons 4-W2 with Project X LZ 5.5 shaft -1/2" and 1* Up Wedge: Titleist SM7 56* with Project X LZ 5.0 shaft Putter: Custom Futura X5 flow neck with a UST Frequency Filtered shaft -1" with a SS wristlock grip Link to post Share on other sites
Peaksy68 3,886 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Tiger certainly moves the needle in terms of attendance and TV ratings, but it appears he doesn't really move the needle in terms of sales and profitability. Bridgestone's problems after signing Tiger, Nike's exit from the equipment side of golf demonstrate a disparity between Tiger's popularity and the impact he has on bottom lines. Rhetorical question, Are a large proportion of Tiger fans not really golfers? I'm a fan of golf, and would much prefer to watch golf shots played (by anyone) than anyone (not just Tiger) walk a fairway or be huddled with their caddy for several minutes. Show every shot Tiger plays by all means, but I don't think anyone will turn off if you show less walking and more golf. With TV technology now days, the networks could probably broadcast a "Press Red for Tiger" channel that shows nothing but Tiger for his entire round, which would keep everyone happy. Watch that if you want to see Tiger walk, stand around etc, and the main channel for golf, including Tiger proportionally and appropriate to where he is on the leaderboard. 2 Quote G400 SFT Aldila Xtorsion Copper Stiff F8 3 & 5 Woods Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 TS2 7 Wood Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5 S18 Wedges 50,54,58 MLA Tour Mallet 33" Z Star Pioneer bag buggy Link to post Share on other sites
djahubes 1,257 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 My only complaint about fox revolves around Joe Buck. Sent from my BLN-L24 using MyGolfSpy mobile app I used to feel that way about Buck until I listened to him on the BS podcast. Now he's ok in my book. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Undershooter 4,037 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I used to feel that way about Buck until I listened to him on the BS podcast. Now he's ok in my book. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy BS podcast? I've heard Buck on a couple of podcasts as well and I can tell that it means a lot to him to do a good job. He doesn't always do the best but he's trying to improve. Which is more than I can say for most of the others in golf. 1 Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ Diamana Ahina 80X 44" Fairway Metal- Tour Edge Exotics XCG7 Beta 3W 13* w/ Matrix 7m4 X 42.5" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP-18 FLI HI 3i and 4i w/ KBS C-taper lite X Mizuno MP59 5i and 6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 56* bent to 55* w/ rifle spinner shafts and Titleist Vokey 60* M grind Putter- Never Compromise Dinero Mogul Ball- Bridgestone Tour B XS Bag- Ogio Aquatech Cart Bag Link to post Share on other sites
djahubes 1,257 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 BS podcast? I've heard Buck on a couple of podcasts as well and I can tell that it means a lot to him to do a good job. He doesn't always do the best but he's trying to improve. Which is more than I can say for most of the others in golf. Bill Simmons Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaxEntropy 6,515 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 BS podcast? I've heard Buck on a couple of podcasts as well and I can tell that it means a lot to him to do a good job. He doesn't always do the best but he's trying to improve. Which is more than I can say for most of the others in golf.Maybe that's part of my issue with him. He's trying too hard sometimes. My current favorite, and I don't even know his name, is the guy that does the European tour. I love that he does not always feel the need to fill air. Sometimes silence is a good thing, imo. Sent from my BLN-L24 using MyGolfSpy mobile app 1 Quote Driver: Tour B JGR 9.5* Recoil 460ES cut to 45" 3W: Tour B JGR 15* Recoil 460ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-PW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 AW: S5 52* SW: 588 LW: MD3 Putter: Stroke Lab Marxman Bag: Tour B Stand Bag Ball: Z-Star Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Tester Starting Driver Speed on PRGR Monitor: 102 mph Final Driver Speed (end of Level 2): 120 mph Link to post Share on other sites
Undershooter 4,037 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Maybe that's part of my issue with him. He's trying too hard sometimes. My current favorite, and I don't even know his name, is the guy that does the European tour. I love that he does not always feel the need to fill air. Sometimes silence is a good thing, imo. Sent from my BLN-L24 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Prolly so. And I think I know which one you mean.What is the BS podcast btw? 1 Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ Diamana Ahina 80X 44" Fairway Metal- Tour Edge Exotics XCG7 Beta 3W 13* w/ Matrix 7m4 X 42.5" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP-18 FLI HI 3i and 4i w/ KBS C-taper lite X Mizuno MP59 5i and 6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 56* bent to 55* w/ rifle spinner shafts and Titleist Vokey 60* M grind Putter- Never Compromise Dinero Mogul Ball- Bridgestone Tour B XS Bag- Ogio Aquatech Cart Bag Link to post Share on other sites
MattF 9,466 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I have nothing against Tiger Woods other than I've just never been a fan that pulls for him in tournaments (outside Ryder Cup). I like a handful of his competitors better and that's who I root for. What really spoiled me on TW's was the absolute slobbering drool-fest by the media during his peak years. It was Tiger 24/7/365 which, to those of us who are not his adherent fan base, is off-putting. As someone has already pointed out, to look at this morning's news clips, one would think Tiger had won the Quicken Loans event. "Molinari wins" was 3 pages deep for hell sake; darn near in the obituaries. The same thing with Webb Simson's win at the Players Championship and Koepka's win at the U.S. Open (with Tiger cruising back down the Atlantic coast aboard Privacy having missed the cut). Yes, TW's is a greatest player in the modern era. Yes, he has brought along with him a huge impact to the sport; especially with rejuvenating interest with younger folks during a period that the sport was somewhat stagnant if not losing interest. Yes, it's both amazing and exciting to see him come back to tour play when many wondered if that was ever going to happen. But a modicum of balance from the media would sure be nice... just saying. This x 1,000! Can I be your best friend?? 2 Quote In the bag: Driver: M5 Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 Fairway: Sub 70 939X 15° Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 Hybrid: CBX 119 19° hybrid Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 Irons: D7 Forged 4-GW Project X Catalyst 80 6.0 Wedge: Smartsole S Putter Tracy Bag: Alpha Convoy 514 Balls: MTB-X or Black Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the Queen, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 4,784 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 This x 1,000! Can I be your best friend?? How many people 1) Care about Webb Simpson winning one event on tour this year 2) same for Molinari 3) how many know either of them or care to know about either of them 4) media whether print, tv, digital care about $$$ talking about tiger, his play, the success of this comeback draws more readers/viewers and thus $$$ so that's what they are going to focus on If it was DJ, Spieth, Rahm(to an extent) Fowler or Rory and agree others then them getting buried over tiger coversgecmakes sense. 1 Quote Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4 Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125 Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
silver & black 5,531 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I usually don't bother with the Tiger stuff anymore, but................... I get that some people are tired of him/the coverage given to him. No, he will never be what he once was.... but neither will any of us. He's had knee surgeries, shoulder surgery, Back surgeries, and he's ranked 67th in world, so far, in his come back bid! That's pretty damned good for a 42 year old player that's had to deal with all that.... and the personal stuff that is no ones business, that, unfortunately we all know about thanks to social media and the dishonest media in general. Tiger has done wonders for the game of golf.... no matter how you feel about him. Of course the media is going to cover him! Do you really think they won't!? If Jack were to tee it up on senior tour right now, who do you think the cameras would be on, regardless of who was winning or playing lights out? I just don't understand the hate directed towards a guy that was/is one of the greatest player ever, no matter if he can/will win again. I'm done with the Tiger haters. I'm rooting for him no matter what anyone else thinks. And no.... I'm not a Tiger worshiper. I just know what he means to the game and the things he's accomplished... just the same as Jack, Arnie, Gary, Seve and a number of other players that have entertained us over the years with phenomenal shots and play. I'm a big Jason Day fan, if anyone was wondering who favorite player is... and John Daly... another player that seems to garner bad press and wishes from a large contingent. Just enjoy the game! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnSmalls 5,909 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 How many people 1) Care about Webb Simpson winning one event on tour this year 2) same for Molinari 3) how many know either of them or care to know about either of them 4) media whether print, tv, digital care about $$$ talking about tiger, his play, the success of this comeback draws more readers/viewers and thus $$$ so that's what they are going to focus on If it was DJ, Spieth, Rahm(to an extent) Fowler or Rory and agree others then them getting buried over tiger coversgecmakes sense. I'll raise my hand for Webb Simpson and Molinari. I completely understand the coverage and am not complaining. Tiger is just good for golf. To make a reference to the World Cup and seeing Cristiano Ronaldo (immortal sports status) take over the first game against Spain, it made me realize that we aren't going to have guys around that can make you ask, "how did he just do that?" forever. I will take the Tiger coverage while he is still competitive and enjoy 320 yard drives and stinger 2 irons. However, we may have to wait for his replacement before he has a good day on the green. Quote 2020 MGS Hard Rock Challenge SkyCaddie SX400 OGIO Silencer: Followed by Arccos G410+, Tensei Orange Vapor Fly 3, Diamana Blue, Covert 2.0 3H, Kuro Kage Black Wilson D7 Irons 4-GW, Dynamic Gold AMT Glide 52, 56 ES ER2 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Link to post Share on other sites
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