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Really? His story this year is the most incredible story in golf in years.

 

Coming from oblivion just a year ago to have a chance to win the last two majors of the year, call it gushing if you want. But it is deserved.

 

 

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Tiger over saturation by the media diminishes the experience for me and others.  Obviously it's great for those who root for him but for those who don't it becomes an annoying circus.  I follow and root for a handful of other players and would say the same thing about anyone of them.  Simply put, for me, too much of anything just becomes monotonous. I do root for Tiger in Ryder Cup play - so give me partial credit  :) .

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Tiger over saturation by the media diminishes the experience for me and others.  Obviously it's great for those who root for him but for those who don't it becomes an annoying circus.  I follow and root for a handful of other players and would say the same thing about anyone of them.  Simply put, for me, too much of anything just becomes monotonous. I do root for Tiger in Ryder Cup play - so give me partial credit  :) .

My sentiments exactly.  Thank you.

 

And I honestly believe that the media hype that surrounds Tiger only feeds the monster.

 

Hypothetically, if the media showed nothing but Rickie Fowler day in and day out, and Rickie was on ESPN (a big contributing factor for non-golf fans tuning in IMHO) then I believe the galleries and fans wanting a piece of Rickie would grow to the level we see with Tiger simply showing up and breathing.

 

I see basketball players and other sports stars all talk about wanting to watch Tiger, but no one else.  Why is that I wonder?  ESPN.  I don't watch hardly anything on ESPN anymore, but I'll be out for lunch at a restaurant and they'll have ESPN on, and the only time they show highlights of golf is when Tiger is on.  I haven't looked at what ESPN did for the PGA yesterday, but I can almost guarantee you that whatever they showed will be at least 90% Tiger.  In fact, without even looking, I bet they showed every shot that Tiger hit in the final round, and a 2 second clip of Brooks hoisting the trophy at the end.  So a 2 minute segment to highlight the final round, and 1 minute and 58 seconds of that was Tiger Woods, even though Brooks won the tournament.

 

ESPN is losing subscribers left and right (about 150,000 a month the last I checked), for reasons like this.  They don't cover golf, but they have a bias in their coverage to show you only what they want to show you.  And unless Tiger Woods is playing or in the conversation, ESPN won't show anything golf related.  Regardless of the power of ESPN, or how much they may be losing influence, their reach is enormous, especially compared to Golf Channel.  If ESPN showed two crickets racing, people would go nuts over those crickets.

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I think it must be remembered that professional golf like all professional sports is a form of entertainment.   Yes, to many avid golfers it is the desire to watch the best of the best play the game and view media attention from that perspective.   But the media is a business and must operate as not only a source to watch the best of the best but as an entertainment vehicle as well.  Once again, Tiger is the star of golf as an entertainment show so to speak and the media must operate from that perspective.   With Tiger in the script of the show, it not only makes it more entertaining for some avid golfers, but it brings back those with only an entertainment perspective as well.

 

Personally, I must admit that I find the current Tiger show, if you will, rather entertaining myself.   He has a new supporting cast with names such a Koepka, Spieth, Johnson, Thomas and others.   A cast that is not as intimidated as his previous supporting cast.   Additionally, Tiger seems to have a differing relationship with the new cast.  In that context, again I must admit to finding the new show entertaining.   

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What is interesting is that he also gets so much attention when he is not playing. This thread and others for example.

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What's great and different about MGS, as opposed to that "other golf forum" I joined and quickly left, is that I can share my views about TW's, and not being a big fan of his, without being singled out and vilified by the site admin and staff. On that site it's really not OK to not support him and/or the medias coverage of him.

 

Here's to being respectful of varying viewpoints regarding Tiger Woods, muscle back irons, plastic or wood tees, or a host of other topics we like to banter about.

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Actually, I think the best beneficiary of Tiger's attention, in fact, was Brooks Koepka.   He can just worry about his game and not deal with the mob of fans following Tiger, plus it must give him some incentive to play well and actually win.  Also he retains a certain anonymity that must be helpful at times in his personal life.   If I were in a public setting and I saw Tiger, I would recognize him, same for Fowler, Speith, Johnson, Thomas and others.  But I would most likely would not recognize Koepka.  Perhaps, he likes being able to go out with the girl friend and not be mobbed or bothered by fans.

 

Yes, Tiger's play was great and entertaining, but the thing Tiger did that impressed me the most was that he waited and when Brooks came out from posting his score, he was there to congratulate him and give him a man hug.  That's what I really like about Tiger now, that's why I am going to enjoy watching the New Tiger.

Brooks actually told a story of he and DJ out to eat one night and a girl came running up all excited asking fora picture, he was getting ready to stand beside her and smile and she said, "sir would you mind taking the picture"   LOL   I'm sure things like that happen a lot.   But I think it'll start changing now.    It's funny, in a way DJ is much more unassuming.  It' just that he's been around lnger, he has a distinctive walk and gunslinger type approach and of course the very unique swing.    

 

What's great and different about MGS, as opposed to that "other golf forum" I joined and quickly left, is that I can share my views about TW's, and not being a big fan of his, without being singled out and vilified by the site admin and staff. On that site it's really not OK to not support him and/or the medias coverage of him.

 

Here's to being respectful of varying viewpoints regarding Tiger Woods, muscle back irons, plastic or wood tees, or a host of other topics we like to banter about.

I'm glad you feel that way, and I hope everyone does.    We don't have to agree with opinions, but we certainly don't need to be condescending or combative in disagreeing with them.  I know I can have strong opinons at times and I try to make sure I catch myself in how I'm expressing those opinions.  Especially as you said as a Moderator we should be held to a higher standard. 

 

On the subject mentioned earlier that it is only those wanting Tiger to win that want all this coverage.   I was actually fine with Tiger, Brooks, Adam Scott or JT winning yesterday, all would have had a great story behind it.   Sure Tiger might have been the bigger national story but to me Brooks winning his 3rd major in 14 months is a huge story and something we haven't seen in quite a while.  

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What's great and different about MGS, as opposed to that "other golf forum" I joined and quickly left, is that I can share my views about TW's, and not being a big fan of his, without being singled out and vilified by the site admin and staff. On that site it's really not OK to not support him and/or the medias coverage of him.

 

Here's to being respectful of varying viewpoints regarding Tiger Woods, muscle back irons, plastic or wood tees, or a host of other topics we like to banter about.

You had me at Tiger Woods, Muscle Back irons, and more importantly “What's great and different about MGS....”

 

Plastic tees?

 

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Serious question to all of you guys that dislike Tiger:

 

Have you always disliked him, or is it just now that because certain things about his personal life have come to the surface? Is it because he can't be/isn't the dominant force he once was? Is it because he once was the unstoppable beast he used to be? Why do you dislike him so much?

 

Not slinging s**t here.... just want to understand the reasoning.

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I´m from the other side of the ocean and we don´t have all that TW coverage. I do think that media all love a good comeback story and a Tiger comeback would be just that right? I´m a Tiger fan but i´m also a Rory and Fowler fan, and everything i get to see from them other than the games on Tv it´s what i get from social media and in there, if you´re on to other players they get a very good deal of attention, There are trackers for all the major players on tour.

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Can tiger really be back if he hasn't won yet? mj came back and won 3 titles.

MJ had two comebacks. The one after his dads death and won the second three-peat. His 2nd comeback was with the wizards and he didnt win anythig and hi-tailed it out if town as soon as the criticism started.

 

Tiger has like wise had two comebacks. One from treatment for sexual addiction and he won 5 times in 2013. This is his second comeback and its medical related. And he's already come closer to winning than Jordan did in his 2nd comeback.

 

 

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Can tiger really be back if he hasn't won yet? mj came back and won 3 titles.

Barring any further injury, he'll win a few more and be competitive in many.  Whether the wins are majors is a wee bit lower odds, but I suspect at least one. Even if he never wins another PGA event, there is no question he's back - and I think the same can be said for Michael Jordan.

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What's great and different about MGS, as opposed to that "other golf forum" I joined and quickly left, is that I can share my views about TW's, and not being a big fan of his, without being singled out and vilified by the site admin and staff. On that site it's really not OK to not support him and/or the medias coverage of him.

 

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I actually like tiger. I have a buddy that is weirdly

In love and has so much love it makes me Dislike him. Has the same love for Sam Bradford and now I hate the guy. I don't want it to make it sound like i hate tiger because I don't. But it is kind of annoying that brooks really doesn't get the attention and tiger does.

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Can tiger really be back if he hasn't won yet? mj came back and won 3 titles.

 

 

MJ had two comebacks. The one after his dads death and won the second three-peat. His 2nd comeback was with the wizards and he didnt win anythig and hi-tailed it out if town as soon as the criticism started.

 

Tiger has like wise had two comebacks. One from treatment for sexual addiction and he won 5 times in 2013. This is his second comeback and its medical related. And he's already come closer to winning than Jordan did in his 2nd comeback.

 

 

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Basketball is a team sport though. Not to discredit MJ -- he's definitely the GOAT in my eyes, but it's not comparable. Also, Tiger is definitely back. The haters are almost completely silent now.

 

"He'll be lucky to play 72 holes"

"I'd like to see him play a few events in the season"

"How can he compete with the young deep-ball hitters?"

 

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I actually like tiger. I have a buddy that is weirdly

In love and has so much love it makes me Dislike him. Has the same love for Sam Bradford and now I hate the guy. I don't want it to make it sound like i hate tiger because I don't. But it is kind of annoying that brooks really doesn't get the attention and tiger does.

 

But the fact that Brooks doesn't receive more attention, that's on him.

 

That ice in his veins that makes him a killer on the course also makes him indifferent to the media and fans. He admits he doesn't watch golf and he is not a golf nerd... isn't that a jab at the fans that DO watch him play? To a lot of people it sounds like... your time is way too valuable to waste watching 6 hours of golf on TV, but ours isn't...

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But the fact that Brooks doesn't receive more attention, that's on him.

 

That ice in his veins that makes him a killer on the course also makes him indifferent to the media and fans. He admits he doesn't watch golf and he is not a golf nerd... isn't that a jab at the fans that DO watch him play? To a lot of people it sounds like... your time is way too valuable to waste watching 6 hours of golf on TV, but ours isn't...

Or he likes to do many different things and if he isn't playing he doesn't want to watch so that he gets a break from the game.

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Or he likes to do many different things and if he isn't playing he doesn't want to watch so that he gets a break from the game.

 

Totally possible as well. Even if that was true, it's just hard being passionate about a guy that himself is not passionate about the game.

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