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Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5

FW:   :cobra-small: F6 baffler set at 16º

Hybrid:  NONE
Irons:   :taylormade-small:  3i 2014 TP CB  4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400

Wedges:   :nike-small: 52º :nike-small: 56º  :edel-golf-1: 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped

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I often carry my "Midi-wood", It is an R9 SuperDeep set to 12* and I have it on an 85 gram Fujikura Motore F1 from my R11 3 wood (43"). Incidentally, I also have the R11 3 wood 14* on a 65 gram Motore F1 (45"). I have done the same thing with the R11 driver but that white head looks huge on the shaft where the R9 does not.

 

I hit them both 230-240 yards off the tee. My driver distance is usually about 255 but occasionally I will make a proper swing and get more. Thus the Midi wood arrangement. This is perfect for a couple of holes on my course.

 

The R9 of course offers more forgiveness than the 3 wood, but I can't hit it off the deck. The other part of that story is I have hit the 3 wood off the deck and it went straight and 240 yards. However, more commonly it goes less distance and an honest assessment tells me I am better off hitting my 3 hybrid off the deck than a 3 wood 9 out of 10 times. But that one time is enough to make you pull it out of the bag. Which is why most of the time I don't put it in the bag.

 

Driver:      :mizuno-small:  ST190G on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Fairway:   :mizuno-small:  ST190TS 15° on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Hybrids     :mizuno-small:  CLK 22 & 25 (set to 20° & 23°) on Fujikura SPEEDER

Irons:     :mizuno-small:  MP5 5-P on True Temper Dynamic Gold

Wedges: :mizuno-small: MP-T5 52*, 56* & 60* on True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge

Putter:    :cameron-small: 2018 Select Newport 2

Balls:      :titelist-small: Pro V1X

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Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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You can accomplish two thing by choking down an inch or 2 on your driver, make the shaft play stiffer, and at a 3 wood length. I've been choking down on my driver all summer, and it is already plays at 44.5, so I'm anywhere between 42 and 43”. Smoking it.

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You can accomplish two thing by choking down an inch or 2 on your driver, make the shaft play stiffer, and at a 3 wood length. I've been choking down on my driver all summer, and it is already plays at 44.5, so I'm anywhere between 42 and 43”. Smoking it.

The top inch and a half of my driver shaft is broken and flopping around which makes me choke down an inch and a half. This has helped my diving immensely. I could get it fixed but I actually like it forcing me to choke down.

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Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff

Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff

Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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Who cares about a fitter? They are generally in air conditioned buildings and not actually on the course. He asked if anyone had done this.

 

It is very simple to do now with the shaft sleeves. I have put FM shafts in hybrids and drivers, and driver shafts in FM and Hybrids, my hybrid shafts won't fit into the driver, probably because they are .370 vs .350 or .335. 

 

Driver shaft in the hybrid was too long but not so with the FM in the hybrid. Although, I don't play them that way. I prefer the shorter shafts in the driver vs the longer shafts in the other clubs.

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Driver:      :mizuno-small:  ST190G on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Fairway:   :mizuno-small:  ST190TS 15° on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Hybrids     :mizuno-small:  CLK 22 & 25 (set to 20° & 23°) on Fujikura SPEEDER

Irons:     :mizuno-small:  MP5 5-P on True Temper Dynamic Gold

Wedges: :mizuno-small: MP-T5 52*, 56* & 60* on True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge

Putter:    :cameron-small: 2018 Select Newport 2

Balls:      :titelist-small: Pro V1X

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The top inch and a half of my driver shaft is broken and flopping around which makes me choke down an inch and a half. This has helped my diving immensely. I could get it fixed but I actually like it forcing me to choke down.

Measure your wrist to floor. I found this that says I need a 44” Driver. I'm going to go ahead and say it is correct. I could probably get into a 43-43.5” and be even more confident and accurate.

 

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Measure your wrist to floor. I found this that says I need a 44” Driver. I'm going to go ahead and say it is correct. I could probably get into a 43-43.5” and be even more confident and accurate.

 

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Size doesn't matter.......or does it

Just hit what you're comfortable with that ends in the short grass.

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Measure your wrist to floor. I found this that says I need a 44” Driver. I'm going to go ahead and say it is correct. I could probably get into a 43-43.5” and be even more confident and accurate.

 

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Thank you for the chart. It says I need a 44.5''. My current driver is 46''. Then apparently I got lucky with how much the handle broke and have been right in not fixing it. I am hitting the ball longer and much much more accurately.

Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff

Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff

Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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Just had my instructor do this to my driver, I can say I didnt lose much distance (maybe 5 yds tops) but I am hitting more fairways. He explained that by using the shorter shaft, Im more likely to hit it center face which causes the ball to go farther than hitting the outside edges which use the gear effect (way to smart for me) to straighten the ball out

Driver  :titelist-small: TS 2, Hzrdus Smoke Black Stiff 9.5* Setting, A2

Fairway Wood:   :ping-small: G30 Stiff Shaft

Hybrid:   :titelist-small: TS2 19* Hzrdus Smoke Black Stiff shaft

Irons:     :titelist-small: 718 AP1 (4-PW) AMT Red Stiff Shafts 

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: RTX4 52* 56*

Putter:   :cameron-small: Scotty Cameron Golo 5

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So many people could save headache, money and frustration by doing this and understanding what works for them. If one wants to tinker after that the fine but at least it would be a better educated tinker and more cost effective.

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Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

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@RickyBobby - exactly

 

@RR - You know enough about equipment to fit yourself and additionally you have a unique swing - you are one of the rare people who might be better off fitting himself.  I have a friend who falls into the same category with his golf swing.  He's a very good athlete who learned the game late in life - lessons would be a debacle for him.

 

I'll stand by my original statement but will add this since it's very clear that the OP is bound and determined to do this on his own.

 

The 3 wood shaft will be shorter and heavier.  The driver head was designed and weighted with the original shaft in it and at its current length so you will change the swing weight of the club.  For many people that's meaningless but for some it's a radical change. 

 

The fitter survey whose citation upset a number of people in another thread stated that half of all golfers play a driver with too long a shaft.  So at least you have a chance of being in that half and using the 3 wood shaft is not permanent so you could always switch back.

 

Or you could go to a fitter who will get your driver set up and tuned properly including to the swing weight that you prefer once the shaft weight, length and type is determined.

 

More than likely that will include a shorter shaft but wouldn't it be nice to know for sure via a professional instead of relying on the opinions being offered here from people who have never seen you swing - albeit a fairly informed group?

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Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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@RickyBobby - exactly

 

@RR - You know enough about equipment to fit yourself and additionally you have a unique swing - you are one of the rare people who might be better off fitting himself. I have a friend who falls into the same category with his golf swing. He's a very good athlete who learned the game late in life - lessons would be a debacle for him.

 

I'll stand by my original statement but will add this since it's very clear that the OP is bound and determined to do this on his own.

 

The 3 wood shaft will be shorter and heavier. The driver head was designed and weighted with the original shaft in it and at its current length so you will change the swing weight of the club. For many people that's meaningless but for some it's a radical change.

 

The fitter survey whose citation upset a number of people in another thread stated that half of all golfers play a driver with too long a shaft. So at least you have a chance of being in that half and using the 3 wood shaft is not permanent so you could always switch back.

 

Or you could go to a fitter who will get your driver set up and tuned properly including to the swing weight that you prefer once the shaft weight, length and type is determined.

 

More than likely that will include a shorter shaft but wouldn't it be nice to know for sure via a professional instead of relying on the opinions being offered here from people who have never seen you swing - albeit a fairly informed group?

Great post. The last paragraph is spot on.

Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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The other part of that story is I have hit the 3 wood off the deck and it went straight and 240 yards. However, more commonly it goes less distance and an honest assessment tells me I am better off hitting my 3 hybrid off the deck than a 3 wood 9 out of 10 times. But that one time is enough to make you pull it out of the bag. Which is why most of the time I don't put it in the bag.

 

I may have to alter this statement. I have had the opportunity to play practice rounds the past couple of weeks, and while I've been carrying the R9 during money rounds, I've been hitting the 3 wood during the practice rounds and am smoking this thing with the driver shaft in it. It plays about 44 inches long and today I hit it twice about 240 straight down the middle of the fairway. So this number for the past two weeks is more like 7 of 10 times off the deck have been awesome.

 

But this does not answer your question. It is the opposite.

 

Driver:      :mizuno-small:  ST190G on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Fairway:   :mizuno-small:  ST190TS 15° on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Hybrids     :mizuno-small:  CLK 22 & 25 (set to 20° & 23°) on Fujikura SPEEDER

Irons:     :mizuno-small:  MP5 5-P on True Temper Dynamic Gold

Wedges: :mizuno-small: MP-T5 52*, 56* & 60* on True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge

Putter:    :cameron-small: 2018 Select Newport 2

Balls:      :titelist-small: Pro V1X

Shoes:     :footjoy-small:

Range Finder: Precision Pro  NX7 Pro

All grips are BestGrips Micro-Perforated

 

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This is a good post. It addresses OP's question.

@RickyBobby - exactly

 

@RR - You know enough about equipment to fit yourself and additionally you have a unique swing - you are one of the rare people who might be better off fitting himself.  I have a friend who falls into the same category with his golf swing.  He's a very good athlete who learned the game late in life - lessons would be a debacle for him.

 

I'll stand by my original statement but will add this since it's very clear that the OP is bound and determined to do this on his own.

 

The 3 wood shaft will be shorter and heavier.  The driver head was designed and weighted with the original shaft in it and at its current length so you will change the swing weight of the club.  For many people that's meaningless but for some it's a radical change. 

 

The fitter survey whose citation upset a number of people in another thread stated that half of all golfers play a driver with too long a shaft.  So at least you have a chance of being in that half and using the 3 wood shaft is not permanent so you could always switch back.

 

Or you could go to a fitter who will get your driver set up and tuned properly including to the swing weight that you prefer once the shaft weight, length and type is determined.

 

More than likely that will include a shorter shaft but wouldn't it be nice to know for sure via a professional instead of relying on the opinions being offered here from people who have never seen you swing - albeit a fairly informed group?

 

This is not a good answer. Obviously, he wanted other people's opinion.

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Also, the R9 SuperDeep is from an era before the sub 60 gram driver shafts. I am using 75g and 85g shafts. I know for a fact that my Titleist 980F 17* is a beast with a 75g or heavier shaft. Install a 59g shaft and it becomes unplayable.

 

Driver:      :mizuno-small:  ST190G on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Fairway:   :mizuno-small:  ST190TS 15° on Fujikura ATMOS Black

Hybrids     :mizuno-small:  CLK 22 & 25 (set to 20° & 23°) on Fujikura SPEEDER

Irons:     :mizuno-small:  MP5 5-P on True Temper Dynamic Gold

Wedges: :mizuno-small: MP-T5 52*, 56* & 60* on True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge

Putter:    :cameron-small: 2018 Select Newport 2

Balls:      :titelist-small: Pro V1X

Shoes:     :footjoy-small:

Range Finder: Precision Pro  NX7 Pro

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When I had a Callaway driver + 3 wood I swapped the shafts as an experiment. I did see slightly tighter dispersion but I also tend to grip down a lot on my driver for more control anyways. 

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:callaway-small:  GBB 3W (lofted to 4W)
:callaway-small: V-Series Heavenwood
:cobra-small: Baffler XL 5i-PW
:cleveland-small: CBX 54*
:ping-small: iWedge 58*
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... Keep in mind that if you are using a 3 wood shaft from a 3 wood, it has been tipped to accommodate the heavier head. For some it will make little difference. But considering many should be playing a softer flex in their driver, this can make the shaft play too stiff in their driver. If it is an uncut shaft then obviously there is no need to tip and can absolutely be put in a shorter driver, something many of us that have taught or fit golfers highly recommend. 

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Driver:   TaylorMade SIM2 Max ... Diamana Limited 60R
Fairway:  Cobra SZ 14.5* ... Atmos Blue TS 7S
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Diamana Limited 65R
               TaylorMade DHy 19* ... Diamana Limited 65R
Irons:    4-Pw Cobra King Tour MIM ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Wedges:  Cobra Snakebite 50* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
                 Mizuno T20 58* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Putter:  Cleveland Hunting Beach Soft 11S 33.5"
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From that video I'd fit the fitter right in between those two shaft lengths. :)

 

Which brings us back to Do or (dough) which is always to go get fit and find out what shaft length is best for you rather than Willy nilly lopping of length from your driver shaft.

 

At least trying the three wood shaft choice avoids that. You could always go back. Of course it also avoids finding out if there may be an even better shaft/head option out there.

 

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Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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From that video I'd fit the fitter right in between those two shaft lengths. :)

 

Which brings us back to Do or (dough) which is always to go get fit and find out what shaft length is best for you rather than Willy nilly lopping of length from your driver shaft.

 

At least trying the three wood shaft choice avoids that. You could always go back. Of course it also avoids finding out if there may be an even better shaft/head option out there.

 

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Rev is so right about getting fit.

 

When RP58 started his original thread on this subject, it encouraged me to give it a try and I did with immediate positive results. Indeed I gave up some distance, but my accuracy improved and that gave me better chances to score. I wound up "lopping" an inch from my driver shaft (butt end) and basically had similar results, but wanted better. So I went and got fitted for a new driver and several departures from my original were made; stiff vs. mid flex and standard vs. mid-size grip and here I am. Since that fitting, I've changed all of my grips back to standard and feel that I have way more control than ever before (generally) across my whole bag.

 

I think the biggest take-away I got from this experiment was the fact that small tweaks that are correct and are give positive results can certainly improve consistency, but a proper fitting will yield a higher percentage of success.

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Driver
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3W:          :ping-small: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
5W:          :ping-small: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
7W:         :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff

Irons:       :ping-small: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff
Wedges: :ping-small: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff
Putter:     :ping-small: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials")
Ball:       :Snell: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the :Snell: MTB RED)
Shoes:     :footjoy-small:  Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes

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