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I have the G irons in my bag 5-9 irons. An i200 PW and a G400 crossover. Everyone who sees me hit the 4 iron crossover asks what it is, mostly because when I hit it it just goes and goes better than any 4 iron I've ever played, with the same or better workability. So maybe that is a compromise for you if you don't want to give up the 4 iron, but want to try something different that I would highly recommend.

 

 

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Had not heard of these until your post.  I did mention that I'm a little behind on the latest in golf club developments, right?  :) They sure look more like an iron than the hybrids I've seen - which aesthetically I have a hard time with. 

 

If you want the 4 iron and think it helps you game, get it.

If you get the 4-PW set plus the 5W that gives you 10 clubs(I think maybe 11 depending on you set up).

But you then should invest in 3-4 wedges. The PW for your new set is 45.5. I would get a 50,54,58, for sure and maybe a 64*. This then fills out you bag quite nicely. I am not sure if you have a brand loyalty to Ping(if so the glides are great IMO) but if not get fit by the same fitter and have him do a wedge gapping and wedge fitting.

 

Four wedges in the bag  :o, I have a a hard enough time getting one to do what I ask.  With all those wedges, do you guys ever use your 8 and 9 irons?  

 

 

LM data does not always translate to on-course performance ...  one suggestion is to find a pre-owned 6/7 iron to test on-course.   I recently picked up a second swing g400 7 iron in my specs for future testing in off-season.

 

I like this idea and now on the hunt. The visual display on the LM, showing the final ball positions of the various clubs (in different colors) certainly was most consistent with the G400's.  I played yesterday and was hitting my PE2's nicely but, having just completed the fitting exercise, the lateral dispersion stood out a bit more.  Just buying a used G400 and then going to the range and hitting that side by side with my club would be a good next step.

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I'm rooting for you to keep using your Ping Eye 2's. They've been with you for so long it seems a shame for the world to lose another Ping Eye 2 player.

 

Just keep swing Karsten's masterpiece!

 

 

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He did mention the 5-PW option as well, but I've played long irons for so long my bag would look naked to me without at least a 4 (currently have a 2). Also, looking at the G400's sole/face design, I would think it a challenge to hit out of first cut? I'm not getting what your saying with the wedges - perhaps that you started hitting longer and that required a different or other wedges? I have only used the standard PW that came with my set.

Your Eye 2 W will have more loft the the newer Ping W - it will serve admirable as your gap wedge.

 

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Four wedges in the bag :o, I have a a hard enough time getting one to do what I ask. With all those wedges, do you guys ever use your 8 and 9 irons?

I play 3 wedges. I play a GW that I hit 120, a SW that I hit 105, and a LW that I hit 90. I hit my 8 iron 150, my 9 iron 140, my PW 130.

It can be difficult to hit wedges consistently however if you take them out to the range you will improve. If you struggle with wedges; maybe try One Length wedges so you can setup and swing more consistently?????? I carry more wedges for around the green more than full shots. I like the previous idea of a 4 crossover for off the tee.

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I have 5 wedges in my bag

 

60,56,52,48, SCORs, Ping G30 W

 

70,82,94,106,116 are my full yardage's with each.

 

I know how to take enough off of each one to fill the gaps or even hit them less than the next one down.

 

It's way more important to have those shots in your bag than 220,208,195 at the top end - if I have one club that goes 208 I am fine with all three of those numbers. At my very best I was hitting 10 percent of my greens at 210. I was a 1 at that time.

 

Wedges are hugely important to scoring.

 

 

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@fixyurdivot

 

I'm rooting for you to keep using your Ping Eye 2's. They've been with you for so long it seems a shame for the world to lose another Ping Eye 2 player.

 

Just keep swing Karsten's masterpiece!

 

 

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I see what you are doing here.  Are you by chance a psychologist?  BTW, my wife agrees with you 100%.  :lol:

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I will be a former player on the 31st when my new clubs arrive. Kind of sad actually as they are great conversation pieces.

 

Question is...do I sell? I have twp sets so one will go bye bye.

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I will be a former player on the 31st when my new clubs arrive. Kind of sad actually as they are great conversation pieces.

 

Question is...do I sell? I have twp sets so one will go bye bye.

 

Probably missed it in another thread, but what are you switching to?  I would definitely keep one of the PE2 sets.  If I do end up changing, I'll keep mine - at least until such time that I'm certain the new clubs are keepers.

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Probably missed it in another thread, but what are you switching to? I would definitely keep one of the PE2 sets. If I do end up changing, I'll keep mine - at least until such time that I'm certain the new clubs are keepers.

Going to Titleist 716 AP1. The lofts are stronger and judt easier to swing for me. Also. My E2s are not axcx great fit since standsrd length and blsck dot. Moving to 1/2" ovee with 2 degree upright.

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HELP...STILL NOT FINDING A REPLACEMENT!  I'm pretty waist deep in information overload at this point and should probably just take a hiatus from the search... but I keep reading MGS forum and am hooked like a crack addict 🤪. I've been back through this thread, my fitting results, and agree that, like my driver upgrade, I'll see improved performance with modern irons and that should translate into lower scores.

My big issue now is whether simply moving to a modern day PE2 type club is the best option for me.  I kind of just stumbled into the PE2's back in 1988.  They were the hottest thing going and, not having the likes of a MGS support group, I just went with them. But, might I be better to move into a different club category; cavity back forged vs. cast, more towards a GI design?  I'm able to work the PE2's a bit; certainly fade when desired, and to a lesser degree, a draw.

My fitter in Bozeman only had Ping, TM, Mizuno, and Tour Edge available.  Not that these aren't great mfg's, but certainly limited when considering the many others available.

As some of you have suggested, I'm considering a used set of much newer year irons.  Looking at the MGS Most Wanted Irons reviews, I see Mizuno MP-53 and Cobra CB rated high. For whatever reason, these can be had for a song - say as compared to Ping G or G30's. That would suggest to me they are not as highly sought after - seems odd? 

Add to the challenge my preference for smaller profile irons.  I recently saw the GMax for the first time...wow and no.

Still looking for recommendations... and that can include sedatives 🤣.  Whatcha got?

 

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4 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

HELP...STILL NOT FINDING A REPLACEMENT!  I'm pretty waist deep in information overload at this point and should probably just take a hiatus from the search... but I keep reading MGS forum and am hooked like a crack addict 🤪. I've been back through this thread, my fitting results, and agree that, like my driver upgrade, I'll see improved performance with modern irons and that should translate into lower scores.

My big issue now is whether simply moving to a modern day PE2 type club is the best option for me.  I kind of just stumbled into the PE2's back in 1988.  They were the hottest thing going and, not having the likes of a MGS support group, I just went with them. But, might I be better to move into a different club category; cavity back forged vs. cast, more towards a GI design?  I'm able to work the PE2's a bit; certainly fade when desired, and to a lesser degree, a draw.

My fitter in Bozeman only had Ping, TM, Mizuno, and Tour Edge available.  Not that these aren't great mfg's, but certainly limited when considering the many others available.

As some of you have suggested, I'm considering a used set of much newer year irons.  Looking at the MGS Most Wanted Irons reviews, I see Mizuno MP-53 and Cobra CB rated high. For whatever reason, these can be had for a song - say as compared to Ping G or G30's. That would suggest to me they are not as highly sought after - seems odd? 

Add to the challenge my preference for smaller profile irons.  I recently saw the GMax for the first time...wow and no.

Still looking for recommendations... and that can include sedatives 🤣.  Whatcha got?

 

Check this out. A bit dated, but "eye" opening...

 

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This video/comparison was offered up earlier in the thread. It is pretty neat how well the PE2 compared, but as was pointed out, he is not your typical SGI player and the off hits on the PE2 were worse than others.  Also, much as I like Ping, I'm definitely not stuck on them.  

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19 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

This video/comparison was offered up earlier in the thread. It is pretty neat how well the PE2 compared, but as was pointed out, he is not your typical SGI player and the off hits on the PE2 were worse than others.  Also, much as I like Ping, I'm definitely not stuck on them.  

Understood, sorry about the duplicate. Bummer about the limited access to more varieties too. Wish I could help more...

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I now have TWO sets of Ping Eye 2 irons.  My original set and my sister-in-law's set that we got after she passed away in December.  If we didn't still have snow on the ground, I would be giving them a swing just for fun.

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@ Fixyourdivots

 

In 1988 there were not the type of equipment choices that we are faced with today.  Nearly everyone was playing Ping or Tommy Armor (not tour players by weekend warrior types.)  There were some Hogan or Mizuno, MacGregor or Wilson blade players mixed in but not many.

 

Today its endless - I would say that if money (within reason) is not an issue you have plenty of choices between Mizuno, TMag, Ping and Tour Edge and in a variety of price points.  Since you can get fit for those go with something from those lines.  While they may cost more upfront you will have them in your bag for a long time and get great value out of your purchase.  (Something I haven't succeeded in doing with irons of late - I can't seem to keep a set of irons in my bag for more than a year - the last set was my Wilson C100's - I hated the way those looked but I loved the shaft)

There is a huge difference between the Ping G line and the Mizuno 53's or Adams CB - that's why you are seeing the pricing differences.  The 53's or the Adams are less forgiving than your Eye 2's.  As lovely as they look I'd steer clear of them.  I actually have a set of Adams CBs in my closet - absolutely gorgeous and if I'm playing a lot of golf I will throw them in the bag for a round - but if I'm playing less than once a week or a round in competition - not a chance - the clunkers stay clunkers with those irons. 

 

My guess is that you would find much happiness in something in the Mizuno 900 series - nice combination of looks with some real help factored in.

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Ping Eye 2 guy for 10 years..then got fitted for a set of G30s.  Longer, higher and with the same ability to work the ball.  It was a no brainer for me.  Hitting an 8 iron to an elevated green (G30) is a lot easier than hitting the Ping Eye 7 iron.  I made the switch and have loved the difference it has made in my game.  The G30s are not as pretty though :(

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On 3/14/2019 at 7:03 AM, revkev said:

My guess is that you would find much happiness in something in the Mizuno 900 series - nice combination of looks with some real help factored in.

Thanks Rev. I just contacted my fitter in Bozeman.  He's added Callaway and KZG to his line-up.  The JPX900 HM's were among the four irons I tested last summer.  They were the longest hitting by a few yards but also had the highest Std. Dev.  A couple of hits in the data group were nearly 180 yds - besting any of the others by 5+ yards.  If memory serves, they were the last irons I hit and I may have started to get a bit gassed. We also only tried one shaft with them. 

He's offered to help with my G410 Plus driver review - getting some side by side LM data with my current Callaway driver 👍.  As part of that visit, I plan to do some additional iron testing and will have another look at the Mizuno's.  I know nothing about KZG but, as it seems nearly always the case, looked no further than MGS for the scoop.  This article by Chris Nickel is a good overview.

https://mygolfspy.com/kzg-not-everyone-wants-to-live-large/

"Marketing companies who make golf equipment"; that is an interesting statement.  There is little doubt that marketing plays a HUGE factor in what sway's consumer decisions.  To the extent "the bigs" become more market/profit dominant than performance driven, that's hard to say - but it seems plausible. I plan to have a look at and likely test the KZG irons later this spring.

12 hours ago, deauxrite said:

Ping Eye 2 guy for 10 years..then got fitted for a set of G30s.  Longer, higher and with the same ability to work the ball.  It was a no brainer for me.  Hitting an 8 iron to an elevated green (G30) is a lot easier than hitting the Ping Eye 7 iron.  I made the switch and have loved the difference it has made in my game.  The G30s are not as pretty though 😞

A few have suggested the G and G30's as a lower cost option to the current G series. I've been looking for a used green dot in 5, 6, or 7i to test. To be honest, the cost difference is not a factor in my decision.  I'm really just being deliberate in my selection process - wanting to get the best performing upgrade I can.  

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