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I've been fooling around with this idea for a while.

 

I am going to try something out of the ordinary for me. Next round out I will be “playing to a number” on a few holes where I can't use a pitch and run shot. Looking to be 110-130 out so I can hit a full/knockdown 52° or a knock down PW.

 

(Short holes) so there will be a lot of long and mid irons off the tee, this will do two things for me, build some confidence with shaping them, and target practice in with the PW and the 52°.

 

I was practicing today with the 1/2 & 3/4 all the way up to 6 iron. After today I am ”ready for the open”...

 

I also spent a lot of time at the chipping green today working on well... chipping. I have a new found love for running shots. Worked with the 9, PW, and 52° I am finding it more accurate and predictable than trying to hit my checker every time.

 

Practiced downhill and uphill shots for nearly 2 hours from the rough, dried out crap, ant hills, fringe, fluffy dry long stuff... only had a few outliers. Most of them were within 4' of the cup from 20,30,40 yards and even closer from inside 20.

 

I also don't think I'll ever hit a full 56 or 60 ever again, and the 60 might be on short notice.

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I've been working something similar. Clubbing up 1 or 2 clubs and hitting 3/4 knockdowns to the flag. It's an awesome shot when executed. Today hit a 1/2 swing knockdown 8i to 118 yard pin. Normally would hit a full 50. Hit right on the flag, hopped and stopped to about 5 feet. Right on target. Very useful into the wind here in Hawaii.

 

 

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I've been working something similar. Clubbing up 1 or 2 clubs and hitting 3/4 knockdowns to the flag. It's an awesome shot when executed. Today hit a 1/2 swing knockdown 8i to 118 yard pin. Normally would hit a full 50. Hit right on the flag, hopped and stopped to about 5 feet. Right on target. Very useful into the wind here in Hawaii.

 

 

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Exactly what I'm talking about.

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isn't this what the pros do? lay up to a distance where they can control a PW and spin the crap out of it?

 

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isn't this what the pros do? lay up to a distance where they can control a PW and spin the crap out of it?

 

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Another thing I'm absolutely talking about. Playing smarter. What's the sense of being 64 yards from the green? I mean I could pull it off easily, but I want to work on lowering my scores. Trying this out.

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isn't this what the pros do? lay up to a distance where they can control a PW and spin the crap out of it?

 

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It's definitely a shot you need to fully commit to. Lots of badness can happen if you decelerate through the ball. Hosel fades, aka shanks, chunkers, ......practice and commitment is the key.

 

 

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I've been fooling around with this idea for a while.

 

I am going to try something out of the ordinary for me. Next round out I will be “playing to a number” on a few holes where I can't use a pitch and run shot. Looking to be 110-130 out so I can hit a full/knockdown 52° or a knock down PW.

 

(Short holes) so there will be a lot of long and mid irons off the tee, this will do two things for me, build some confidence with shaping them, and target practice in with the PW and the 52°.

 

I was practicing today with the 1/2 & 3/4 all the way up to 6 iron. After today I am ”ready for the open”...

 

I also spent a lot of time at the chipping green today working on well... chipping. I have a new found love for running shots. Worked with the 9, PW, and 52° I am finding it more accurate and predictable than trying to hit my checker every time.

 

Practiced downhill and uphill shots for nearly 2 hours from the rough, dried out crap, ant hills, fringe, fluffy dry long stuff... only had a few outliers. Most of them were within 4' of the cup from 20,30,40 yards and even closer from inside 20.

 

I also don't think I'll ever hit a full 56 or 60 ever again, and the 60 might be on short notice.

Sounds like one of my practice days.  Not only will you get better at hitting those shots, but just being creative on shots around the green like that pays big dividends when you are out on the course.  A lot of golf is about visualizing a shot and having your brain translate it into body movements.  The more challenge, the better you become when having to pull it off.

 

I haven't hit a full 54 or 58 shot in years.  No need to.

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I do this all the time, however, I do not hit to a "Full" anything. I hit to a 3/4 shot. Much more control than a full anything.

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Well, I think getting in the habit of swinging "plenty of club" significantly improves a players swing tempo-rhythm .

As for the 60* wedge, I think it has harmed scoring more so than any other club ever invented. If you take the 60* out of the bag my expectation is that your scoring will improve.

100% agree, the 60 wedge is the worst. I was having the best round of my life at Spanish bay a few years ago. Even par going into 16. Hit my t shot to pin high left of the green. Took out my 60 and preceded to skull one over, chunk one back, 3 putt. Took my frustration to 17 and finished at 79. Threw it away and never looked back.

 

 

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Wedges were/are the best part of my game. I'm just working on a few things.

 

I like to mess around when I play, I don't like hitting a straight shot, that's boring. I think that's why I like Bubba so much.

 

I like to hit a big high fade with the driver.

 

Draw is stock with my 3 wood, but I can boomerang it if needed. (My go to for a few tee shots)

 

Irons I like to fade the irons but I can move it both ways with the irons.

 

New wedge stuff I'm working on is a little draw, maybe 1-2 yards. But I can still fade/slice if I need to.

 

I've always liked the fade ball shape. (

 

Putting though. I figured out today that I was set up like 4' to the right * your other right * edit: LEFT of a straight 25' putt I was working on lags. I feel super closed when I'm “square”. But the dang things go where I tell them to now. Imagine that.

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I find hitting knockdowns give me a better feel for the club/ball.i also find they can hinder me as i start to rely on them instead of committing to a fukk swing with solid follow through.

 

I also try o lay up to a distance or certain angle if possible even if it means a 50 yard shot.

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If I'm playing to shoot a score, I avoid shots inside 110 yards (less than full sand wedge) like the plague. If I'm practicing on the course, I hit all the awkward in-between wedge shots I can. Sooner or later, you're going to have one when it counts.

 

Many of the courses in my area have quite a bit of contouring in the fairways, so you're frequently hitting a ball that's a few inches above or below your feet. I've finally come to the realization that in both cases, I'm better off taking 2-3 extra clubs and hitting a low punch with a half-swing instead of using my usual club and giving it the full treatment. I'm much more likely to keep my balance, make solid contact and actually hit the green this way.

 

With the new set, it looks like I have a fairly significant gap between my PW and my GW.

 

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And my course has a par 3 that's 135. I've found that a punch 8 iron is actually the best way to play the hole now, rather than trying to take a little off the PW (I'm not good at that) or trying to kill the GW (never a good idea).

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If I'm playing to shoot a score, I avoid shots inside 110 yards (less than full sand wedge) like the plague. If I'm practicing on the course, I hit all the awkward in-between wedge shots I can. Sooner or later, you're going to have one when it counts.

 

Many of the courses in my area have quite a bit of contouring in the fairways, so you're frequently hitting a ball that's a few inches above or below your feet. I've finally come to the realization that in both cases, I'm better off taking 2-3 extra clubs and hitting a low punch with a half-swing instead of using my usual club and giving it the full treatment. I'm much more likely to keep my balance, make solid contact and actually hit the green this way.

 

With the new set, it looks like I have a fairly significant gap between my PW and my GW.

 

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And my course has a par 3 that's 135. I've found that a punch 8 iron is actually the best way to play the hole now, rather than trying to take a little off the PW (I'm not good at that) or trying to kill the GW (never a good idea).

I just took the boys out on the par three course again and I ran into almost the exact situation. I have a 150yd PW and a 135yd GW. And I come to a 140yd hole. A few holes before I tried a choked up PW and pulled it left. I really need to dedicate some whole range sessions to choking up because I feel like the face closed so easily when I choke up. So I pulled out my handy Pelz clock card and see that a 3/4 7 iron goes 138yd (I put together the table for all my irons to help with punches). I think it landed right at 140 but bounced hard and rolled over the green. An 8 there probably would have been right on.

 

I have been thinking about this whole 3/4 shot strategy for a while. I guess it's about time to give it a shot for a while and see what happens. One of my best scores this year was on a course that has enough doglegs and other obstacles in the fairways that I didn't hit driver all that much. Hitting my 3hy and irons a lot, ending up in fairways, and having full shits to the green sure worked out well.

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What's everyone's approach to the approach shot?

 

130 and in?

 

Low spinners?

 

Low runners?

 

High with steep decent?

 

Something in between?

 

I've always brought them in high from 60+, but it has been windy here lately so I started working on my low flighted shots again.

 

Some of us already shared, does the era of golf you learned in change your style? When I started playing all of the members at the course I worked at hit bump and runs from inside 100 yards.

 

This seems less popular these days.

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What's everyone's approach to the approach shot?

 

130 and in?

 

Low spinners?

 

Low runners?

 

High with steep decent?

 

Something in between?

 

I've always brought them in high from 60+, but it has been windy here lately so I started working on my low flighted shots again.

 

Some of us already shared, does the era of golf you learned in change your style? When I started playing all of the members at the course I worked at hit bump and runs from inside 100 yards.

 

This seems less popular these days.[/quot

 

 

Interesting tbought on generations on approach shots. Sometimes I will play a hole here and there with guys in there 60s. 70s and even 80s. We talk about approach shots and they have always preferred bump and run when they can....even in their younger days.

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What's everyone's approach to the approach shot?

 

130 and in?

 

Low spinners?

 

Low runners?

 

High with steep decent?

 

Something in between?

 

I've always brought them in high from 60+, but it has been windy here lately so I started working on my low flighted shots again.

 

Some of us already shared, does the era of golf you learned in change your style? When I started playing all of the members at the course I worked at hit bump and runs from inside 100 yards.

 

This seems less popular these days.

I hit a high spinner from 80 and out. 80 is a full 58* for me. This shot gives me much more distance control but less directional control. Anything inside 80 is a knockdown bump and run 52*. This shot gives me much more directional control but less distance control. I prefer the low shot from inside a full swing for more control. If I have a full swing, I will just let it fly.

 

I am totally self taught have never played with anyone better than a 25 handicap so I have developed what works for me.

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I hit a high spinner from 80 and out. 80 is a full 58* for me. This shot gives me much more distance control but less directional control. Anything inside 80 is a knockdown bump and run 52*. This shot gives me much more directional control but less distance control. I prefer the low shot from inside a full swing for more control. If I have a full swing, I will just let it fly.

 

I am totally self taught have never played with anyone better than a 25 handicap so I have developed what works for me.

That is spot-on my reply too. Ditto in all aspects.

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Flat lie, no wind, I hit full shots whenever I can (GW, SW, LW). For in-between yardages and uneven lies, I'll drop all the way down to a half swing. I don't really have a 3/4 swing that's repeatable for me, but I can repeat a half swing pretty well.

 

Full swings are moon balls, half swings are low spinners. The head-high 8 iron from 120 that takes one hop and stops is a real crowd-pleaser.

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It works, anytime I can't reach a par 5 in two I lay up to my full 58 degree distance and more often than not par is stress free with a birdie mixed in on occasion. I'll pull one off the map on occasion but that's golf.

 

 

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I always try to do this when I play. I very rarely hit driver off the tee anymore unless the hole is 370 yards, and then I may not hit driver, more than likely 3W. 390-400 is when I start thinking driver.

 

 

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