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If money is no object I probably trade on my G series irons and replace them with the i210 irons.  I have the g400 4 crossover, an i200 PW, and the G700 UW and SW, so I have a mixed Ping bag.  So all that's left for me to "replace" are the 5-9 irons.

 

I'd honestly have to test them out between the i500 and i210, but I have a feeling I'd settle on the i210, based on how much I love my i200 PW.

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Ok for me it would be:

 

I210 5-U 

Glide Forged 54 and 58

 

"older" models to round out the bag, since Mr. Solheim is offering :)

 

G400 15 degree  FW

G400  18 degree  FW

G400  21 hybrid

G400   23 hybrid 

 

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I get what your both laying down. I will say some of the online reviews I've seen by the big names, all lament the same thing, I didn't know until recently that a good gauge is 1,000 rpm x the iron number. So a 6 iron should have roughly 6,000 rpm of backspin. I know these may be old school thoughts, as some of the testing of new clubs (not just PING, but the TM 790, Titleist AP1 and AP3 etc show some spins in the 4500 to 5000 range.

 

I only have recent experience.with my P790's but I have hit a few shots recently with a 7 iron that were struck very well, that didn't hold the green. Now some of these were last week, where we are going on over 3 weeks without a drop of rain.

 

All that said, seeing something like the I210 that has more traditional lofts does seem kind of intriguing. That is assuming I can resist the urge for the Power Specs..... :D

Yeah that's a little old school thinking but still somewhat relevant in that maybe going 1000 less is still probably going to work. Something imo to look at these days is the launch angle, peak height and descent angle. Getting those in the right optimal ranges should help “compensate” for the lower spin

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Honestly I'd take the G400s out of them all. Great looks and forgiving as all heck.

 

The G700s would be a close 2nd place though!

 

 

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Yeah that's a little old school thinking but still somewhat relevant in that maybe going 1000 less is still probably going to work. Something imo to look at these days is the launch angle, peak height and descent angle. Getting those in the right optimal ranges should help “compensate” for the lower spin

Yep, I said the same thing earlier, it must have been in  a different thread, as I don't see it in my last post. But that definitely plays into it as well,  those are things, I've gathered from Ian at TXG as well as listening to several interviews with Marty Jertson of PING, one of their lead R&D guys, who just happened to recently qualify for the PGA Championship. 

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I get what your both laying down. I will say some of the online reviews I've seen by the big names, all lament the same thing, I didn't know until recently that a good gauge is 1,000 rpm x the iron number. So a 6 iron should have roughly 6,000 rpm of backspin. I know these may be old school thoughts, as some of the testing of new clubs (not just PING, but the TM 790, Titleist AP1 and AP3 etc show some spins in the 4500 to 5000 range.

 

I only have recent experience.with my P790's but I have hit a few shots recently with a 7 iron that were struck very well, that didn't hold the green. Now some of these were last week, where we are going on over 3 weeks without a drop of rain.

 

All that said, seeing something like the I210 that has more traditional lofts does seem kind of intriguing. That is assuming I can resist the urge for the Power Specs..... :D

My 5 and below stop on a dime on the greens. Not sure if I'd want to give that up. I don't have many 3 irons into the green but I'd bet they'd stop too.

 

I mean I stopped a 3 wood on the green on Friday.

 

Too much spin? I love it. Probably why I hit my irons shorter, but the object is to stop the ball as close to the hole as possible right?

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I'd love i500 4 Iron

i210 5-u

Glide 2.0 stealth 54,58

And I'll keep my Sigma G Tyne putter

 

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I like that they're clean. I'm not crazy about the line running through them though. If they make me hit more greens, I'm all in!

 

 

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Yep, I said the same thing earlier, it must have been in a different thread, as I don't see it in my last post. But that definitely plays into it as well, those are things, I've gathered from Ian at TXG as well as listening to several interviews with Marty Jertson of PING, one of their lead R&D guys, who just happened to recently qualify for the PGA Championship.

I heard those interviews as well and that's what jogged the memory about it from past info. For someone who can use a little extra spin I haven't seen any issues with stopping power in some lower spin combos I've tested in irons and numbers on some driver combos have been decent as well. Some of it's going to be player dependent too on how they deliver the club.

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i210 -- it's like the MP-18 SC's ugly second cousin

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Honestly I'd take the G400s out of them all. Great looks and forgiving as all heck.

 

The G700s would be a close 2nd place though!

 

 

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Stand by!! Mine haven't arrived yet. But if that 210 itch gets too strong, you never know🤪

 

 

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I500s 4-pw

 

Glide 2.0 50,54 and 58 for me please

 

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I500 3i iblade 4-9 glide 46-60

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G700 5 iron with graphite shaft (all others steel), i500 6 and 7, i210 8,9,P, U and Glide 2.0 54 (SS), 58(SS or ES).  Might have to do custom lofts to get the gap correct between the 7 and 8 iron.  

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G700 1st choice, want to try LH irons not available around here yet.

Note; Pings irons just seem to be getting better & better.

 

 

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5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
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i210 -- it's like the MP-18 SC's ugly second cousin

REALLY ugly second cousin... REALLLLLLLLLLY ugly.

 

 

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I REALLY love the simplicity of the 500s. I'd do 4-PW, then Glide 50/54/58.

 

 

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G700 5 iron with graphite shaft (all others steel), i500 6 and 7, i210 8,9,P, U and Glide 2.0 54 (SS), 58(SS or ES).  Might have to do custom lofts to get the gap correct between the 7 and 8 iron.  

I don't think custom lofts are going to cover it.  The clubs seem to be about 10 yards apart in the tests I've seen so the gap between the i500 7 iron and the i210 8 iron could be as much as 25 yards.  You'd be better off going with an i210 7 iron and adjusting the loft down slightly. 

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I don't think custom lofts are going to cover it.  The clubs seem to be about 10 yards apart in the tests I've seen so the gap between the i500 7 iron and the i210 8 iron could be as much as 25 yards.  You'd be better off going with an i210 7 iron and adjusting the loft down slightly. 

Great point and my main concern building a mixed set.  Would you go 1/2 club strong in the 7 to get the proper gap to a 6?  

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Dear Kartsen Family,

 

Please review the "Former Ping Eye 2 Players" thread on this forum and help a long time Ping customer out by shipping me a set of G400's for evaluation.

 

Thank you,

Fishgolf

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Great point and my main concern building a mixed set.  Would you go 1/2 club strong in the 7 to get the proper gap to a 6?  

 

I believe they are offering both the i210 and the i500 in "Normal", "Power" and "Classic" lofts.

Best thing would be to work with a club-fitter.

 

Maybe simply going with "Normal" i210s and "Classic" i500s would be sufficient, giving you the "boost" of the i500 head tech but with a weaker loft bringing the range in spec with the i210.

 

You'd only really be able to gap properly with a launch monitor and some testing though.

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+1 on THIS! the i500 ,FOR ME, is hard and clunky despite the sexy look....the i210 has S55/i200 mix but larger....I've had the opportunity to use the i210 on course and the biggest thing was enjoying....no loving my misses....I didn't get along with previous iterations (i20/i25/i200) but something about the feel and look has me anxiously waiting!

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Dear Kartsen Family,

 

Please review the "Former Ping Eye 2 Players" thread on this forum and help a long time Ping customer out by shipping me a set of G400's for evaluation.

 

Thank you,

Fishgolf

Let us know how that works out for you

I'll be in for G700's thank you

 

 

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Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
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Stand by!! Mine haven't arrived yet. But if that 210 itch gets too strong, you never know🤪

 

 

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Don't tease me like that Rob!!!

 

 

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G700 2,3 (if only!), i500 4-6, standard loft (I think), iblade 7-pw, forged 52,56,60. Obviously, some switching in and out of clubs depending on course/conditions, but I think I could live with this...

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G700 2,3 (if only!), i500 4-6, standard loft (I think), iblade 7-pw, forged 52,56,60. Obviously, some switching in and out of clubs depending on course/conditions, but I think I could live with this...

G700 2/3 irons would be like 11° and 14° or less. The 4 iron is already 17° (1 iron loft status)... wow, that could actually be a fun club to hit.

 

11° driving iron in the G700 chassis? With the ball speed and launch they can get I bet it could be done.

 

Edit: 18.5° 4 iron so looking at 12 and 15 give or take.

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I believe the sole of the i210 has a more beveled edge making it wider but more forgiving in my opinion

Yes. Having hit both, I would agree with that.

 

 

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