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I tried a few different shafts in the i500's today. What a difference in feel they make. I have watched /read the txg thread about how the clubhead is the deciding factor and then finding a shaft to fine tune is the path to go. The discussion was about drivers, I am not so sure that it is correct on an iron set.

 

I loved the i500's, i200's and i210's with the Modus 105, switching to the cfs distance and they all felt clicky, trying dg 100's and feel as well as launch numbers became rancid.

 

Then I tried a AP2 with the Modus vs the DG shafts, same. I think I just love the Modus shaft. With iron heads so similar the shaft makes it breaks them for me.

 

Just my experience.

 

Still, on topic, madly in love with the i500's. I swore to wife that the i200's last year were my 7 year clubs.... I wish ping had a good trade in program so I could pretend to justify this.

 

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If you want to see how good these can really feel, try using a graphite shaft.  I used the DG X100 for my actual test, which is the same shaft I have in my Srixon Z545's.  The for fun we put in a graphite shaft, and it was like butter!  Just don't look at the price tag if you wanted to add a steel fiber shaft in it. :) 

 

Little side note: I'm with you that I don't think finding the right iron head then the shaft is the right way to go for irons.  I don't even really do that for drivers.  I normally test all of the clubs with similar shafts just to get an idea to get my top 3.  From there, I go through the fitting process such as the Mizuno shaft optimizer, and put that shaft into my top 3 choices.  

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Hey everyone. I got a chance to go hit the i210 and i500 today at the local golf store. I took in my current i200 to compare them with. I took a number of pictures, I'll attach them. Using the app it

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Finally got to try the i210s and i500s today. Threw in the g700s for good measure. Tested the 7 irons against my current 6 iron (588 CB) due to lofts.

 

What I noticed first was that the feel among all of them varied, but the i500 felt way more clunky than what I was expecting. Someone already said that it was a g700 with a smaller head and I'd have to agree.

 

The i210s felt better, and were the only ones out of the Pings that I was able to shape as well as my current club.

 

Here's my shot dispersion and numbers for those interested. I like that the shot dispersion looks like an upside down John Bonham symbol from Led Zeppelin. I'm going to include backspin in the comment because I thought it was the most interesting difference considering the balls were not being hit all that different.

 

Blue: 588 CB (5038 rpm)

Pink: G700 (4726 rpm)

Red: i500 (4228 rpm)

Orange: i210 (3815 rpm)

 

Based on these differences, I think I'll wait till those new JPXs come out. IMG_20180720_191101.jpegIMG_20180720_191309.jpegIMG_20180720_191316.jpeg

 

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Finally got to try the i210s and i500s today. Threw in the g700s for good measure. Tested the 7 irons against my current 6 iron (588 CB) due to lofts.

 

What I noticed first was that the feel among all of them varied, but the i500 felt way more clunky than what I was expecting. Someone already said that it was a g700 with a smaller head and I'd have to agree.

 

The i210s felt better, and were the only ones out of the Pings that I was able to shape as well as my current club.

 

Here's my shot dispersion and numbers for those interested. I like that the shot dispersion looks like an upside down John Bonham symbol from Led Zeppelin. I'm going to include backspin in the comment because I thought it was the most interesting difference considering the balls were not being hit all that different.

 

Blue: 588 CB (5038 rpm)

Pink: G700 (4726 rpm)

Red: i500 (4228 rpm)

Orange: i210 (3815 rpm)

 

Based on these differences, I think I'll wait till those new JPXs come out. IMG_20180720_191101.jpeg IMG_20180720_191309.jpeg IMG_20180720_191316.jpeg

 

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What shaft were you using in i210? You had some blatantly bad misses with it....did you hit it last and getting tired? I'd go back and try again leaving out i500 and g700 hit just 588cb and i210....we have similar speeds and the i210 adds so much without losing anything. JMHO

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What shaft were you using in i210? You had some blatantly bad misses with it....did you hit it last and getting tired? I'd go back and try again leaving out i500 and g700 hit just 588cb and i210....we have similar speeds and the i210 adds so much without losing anything. JMHO

All shafts were dynamic gold stiff. And I hit the i210s first so maybe I was still warming up.

 

Heading back is not a bad idea, the only problem then is if the i210s are better, are they $1000 better? But I'll let future me deal with that.

 

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In the last pic the irons are from left to right i210, i500, p790

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Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S

Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

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In the last pic the irons are from left to right i210, i500, p790

More demo time with them today. I know the weather was horrible. What's the current thought.

 

 

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More demo time with them today. I know the weather was horrible. What's the current thought.

 

 

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Imo i210 softer feel than i500 and best feeling Ping iron since i20. Pretty forging and distance wise without being on a monitor I would say within 5-7 yards of the i500 and p790

 

i500 imo doesn't have the harsh feel or sound some have mentioned, not as soft as the p790 but not far off. Distance with the i500 and p790 is very close and I prefer the look of the i500 over p790

 

Will be getting with Brandon hopefully this coming week to dial in and see which route I go. Kinda leaving i500 but being an i20 guy the i210 is calling. Tried Nippon 105, dg 105, kbs tour and dg120 in both heads and I like the dg120 setup the best

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Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

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I bot the i500 today after hitting a bunch o clubs, but only buying the 8-9-w.  I am creating a split set of irons, a sharper narrower sole short group of 3 "scoring" clubs to go with my 2016 model (their last ever) Nike Vapor Fly irons on Recoil reg flex F3 shafts. 

 

I don't have a index yet.  Skill level is modest, trying to catch up at age 63 after 20 yrs no golf on the "Bad elbow" injury list.  Have a very good instructor and a new legit swing.  OK, so, I thought I would get either Miz SC18 or JPX 900 Tour or Forged, or Callaway Apex or Apex Pro.  Maybe Cobra Tec Forged.  Also tried some TM and Titles.  Shopping for just the 8-9-w is obviously different than a full set.  I hit the Apexs nice.  I had some issues with others due to I am a midsize grip, and spent an hour today hitting only many different regular size grips and some were doable, some were too difficult to make a legit comparison.  The fitter said the results with the i500 were best. By a good margin.  I say, nice to hit too.  Oh, I was hitting the 7 iron, not even getting to hit the 8 or 9 iron since fitters don't have them in a fittings. 

 

I like my Nikes a lot.  I love my Recoil shafts.  I would play old Macgregor or Spalding or Wilson gooses if I could put on Recoils.

 

I look forward to posting again in 2 months after I have some play.  In my whole life I almost never have bot anything that was the newest latest model.  I am skeptical or worse about most advertising.  I bot Pings when I went looking for classic forged brands???  Huh???  BTW I highly recommend reading the bio "Karsten's Way", a very good book on the history of his inventions and the MASSIVE impact on all of golf.  Certainly include the i500 in your shopping or fitting list.

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3H or H3  Old Adams Idea 3 hybrid on Graffaloy Platinum reg shaft.

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Great point and my main concern building a mixed set.  Would you go 1/2 club strong in the 7 to get the proper gap to a 6?  

I'd have to hit the clubs and figure it out from there.  My driver SS is only 95 mph so I'd probably hit the i500 7 iron 160 at best.  If I hit the i210 7 iron 150 I'd probably just slot it in there without adjustment.  I'd say my most likely set would be:

 

D-3-5 

2 hybrids

6-7 i500

7-PW i210

2 wedges and a putter. 

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Randy from Fried Eggs Golf strikes again! This may sum up some of the observations thus far out there...

 

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Randy from Fried Eggs Golf strikes again! This may sum up some of the observations thus far out there...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOSO6sKZuOU

Hilarious!!!!

 

 

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Randy from Fried Eggs Golf strikes again! This may sum up some of the observations thus far out there...

 

OMG!  I'm dying here.   "Why would you hit that again??"    And then, "I don't care about the specs, I just want to buy those irons"   

 

Those that haven't seen the video, have no idea of the context...ha

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Well this was a good chuckle. But damn near how I feel about them.

 

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FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5°

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 19.5° Utility

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i

Wedges:  :Sub70:  56°

Putter:   5WoCG8Y.jpgER2 69°lie, 4° loft, 32.75"

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That's hilarious

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Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

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Randy outdid himself with the i500 video.  One of his best.  

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Irons - Callaway Apex  CF 16 5-AW - True Temper XP 95 Steel Stiff

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Demoed the 7i yesterday while stopping by golftec to drop a club off for some work. Man, these clubs are stupidly long and felt pretty good to me. Strongly considering a 3i with a graphite shaft to act as my driving iron. Just need to try the long irons to make sure its what I'm looking for off the deck

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I am going to pick up a 5i and 4i in the i500 with the retro lofts to combo with my existing i200s. hoping that the gaps work out about right, might need to strengthen my 6i a degree or so.

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FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5°

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 19.5° Utility

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i

Wedges:  :Sub70:  56°

Putter:   5WoCG8Y.jpgER2 69°lie, 4° loft, 32.75"

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I am going to pick up a 5i and 4i in the i500 with the retro lofts to combo with my existing i200s. hoping that the gaps work out about right, might need to strengthen my 6i a degree or so.

I like that idea please let me know how it works out I am thinking go retro and do the same I am jealous

 

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I like that idea please let me know how it works out I am thinking go retro and do the same I am jealous

 

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Will do, should be here soon enough and then I will get to trying.  As a side note, I called Ping. But no stores and none of their demo days actually carry the retro loft. And the Retro loft itself comes as the standard loft and they bend it weak at the factory after it arrives, the power spec is bent strong in the same way. So while normally you can bend a club ~ +/- 2°, with the Retro you shouldn't bend it any weaker, and you shouldn't bend the power spec any stronger(who would do that?!!?).

 

All that said, I can't try this before I buy it. So just going out on a limb and comparing the lofts and club lengths to give it a try. Worst case scenario is I am two i500s closer to a complete set. =)

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Driver:   :ping-small: G400Max, 10.5° Fujikura Ventus 6s

FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5°

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 19.5° Utility

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i

Wedges:  :Sub70:  56°

Putter:   5WoCG8Y.jpgER2 69°lie, 4° loft, 32.75"

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