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[GeekingGolf]

Here is my current golf swing. Just looking for some suggestions on how to improve it. I shot this video while testing the Ben Hogan Equalizer wedges. Two things I am working on right now 1.) keeping my spine angle through to the follow through and 2.) getting my hands lower to establish a better angle between my arms and the shaft of the club at address. Here is the link to YouTube.

 

 

[null]

Looks like a very simple clean swing

[GeekingGolf]

Looks like a very simple clean swing

Thanks man I was told that the shaft and arms shouldn't be in a straight line that there should be some angle

 

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[null]

Thanks man I was told that the shaft and arms shouldn't be in a straight line that there should be some angle

 

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I guess the question I'd have is why? Is it because you're trying to change your ball flight?

 

If the results are what you desire then don't change for the sake of looks.

 

However if you're coming into steep, hitting it too high and leaking its right then increasing the angle between and your arms and shaft and thus shallowing out the club may help.

 

I'm all for experimenting and seeing what those changes make to your ball flight.

 

There may be times on the course where you want to be steelers and other times where you want to be shallower.

 

Teaching yourself the skills to be able to execute both will only help you on the course

[GeekingGolf]

I guess the question I'd have is why? Is it because you're trying to change your ball flight?

 

If the results are what you desire then don't change for the sake of looks.

 

However if you're coming into steep, hitting it too high and leaking its right then increasing the angle between and your arms and shaft and thus shallowing out the club may help.

 

I'm all for experimenting and seeing what those changes make to your ball flight.

 

There may be times on the course where you want to be steelers and other times where you want to be shallower.

 

Teaching yourself the skills to be able to execute both will only help you on the course

Yes I tend to get too steep and hit it too high supposedly it will help with ball striking so yes you are right. I did get the DST compressor that has helped tremendously.

 

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[GeekingGolf]

JLukes when I read online teachers talk about being open or closed at the top of the back swing what does that mean?

 

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[gaussman1]

JLukes when I read online teachers talk about being open or closed at the top of the back swing what does that mean?

 

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Don't mean to jump the Q but usually when an instructor says open or closed at the top they are referring to the clubface. That means that the face has been manipulated to where it is pointing toe straight down at the top of the swing (open) or face to the sky at the top (closed). If from those positions the club where to return to impact in that same orientation then the toe down would be face pointing right of target at impact (open) or face to sky would be pointing left of target at impact (closed). Most over the top slicers tend to have an open face at the top as they have rolled the face open and yanked the club inside with hands and arms in the takeaway. From there the only way back to the ball is to lurch the club back over the top of the swing plane and glance across the ball with an out-to-in path and open face. Hence the big left-to-right slice.

[GeekingGolf]

Don't mean to jump the Q but usually when an instructor says open or closed at the top they are referring to the clubface. That means that the face has been manipulated to where it is pointing toe straight down at the top of the swing (open) or face to the sky at the top (closed). If from those positions the club where to return to impact in that same orientation then the toe down would be face pointing right of target at impact (open) or face to sky would be pointing left of target at impact (closed). Most over the top slicers tend to have an open face at the top as they have rolled the face open and yanked the club inside with hands and arms in the takeaway. From there the only way back to the ball is to lurch the club back over the top of the swing plane and glance across the ball with an out-to-in path and open face. Hence the big left-to-right slice.

Which one do I do can you tell?

 

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[GB13]

Which one do I do can you tell?

 

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Toe down so you are open. Not a bad thing if you get it square at impact.

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Toe down so you are open. Not a bad thing if you get it square at impact.

Exactly. The ball only cares about where you are at impact

[GeekingGolf]

Toe down so you are open. Not a bad thing if you get it square at impact.

How do I fix that cause I do tend to lose to the right when my timing is off

 

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[GB13]

How do I fix that cause I do tend to lose to the right when my timing is off

 

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You take the club away to the inside so you have to be open to fight the hook. Try and get the takeaway a little more neutral so you don't have to open the face so much. If the takeaway gets steeper the face will have to be more closed to get a straight flight.

But I am not sure I would advise changing. I am very steep and have a very closed face at the top and my miss is then a dead pull. If you get too closed then a pull will form. Make a very small change if you do. Small changes can do big things.

[GeekingGolf]

You take the club away to the inside so you have to be open to fight the hook. Try and get the takeaway a little more neutral so you don't have to open the face so much. If the takeaway gets steeper the face will have to be more closed to get a straight flight.

But I am not sure I would advise changing. I am very steep and have a very closed face at the top and my miss is then a dead pull. If you get too closed then a pull will form. Make a very small change if you do. Small changes can do big things.

I have weakened my grip over the past few months could that cause open face at the top?

 

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[null]

I have weakened my grip over the past few months could that cause open face at the top?

 

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Yes, but it's not absolute..

[GeekingGolf]

Yes, but it's not absolute..

What about bowing my wrist like DJ would that help

 

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[null]

What about bowing my wrist like DJ would that help

 

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You need to experiment. It's hard to tell how you're going to react to different feelings and how you'll deliver the club

[GB13]

What about bowing my wrist like DJ would that help

 

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Probably, but it would cause a bunch of other problems.

I think strengthening your bottom hand grip is the easiest fix.

[GeekingGolf]

Probably, but it would cause a bunch of other problems.

I think strengthening your bottom hand grip is the easiest fix.

Ok I will try that and try to stop taking the club back inside thanks for all of the help i really appreciate it

 

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[SteddyGolf]

I don't see any huge issues with your swing. It is very smooth and compact. I would recommend you try to stand a little taller with less rounding in the shoulders. Try to control those angles from hip to base of the neck.

 

I see in your profile you play to around an 8 handicap. Do you know where you are losing those 8 strokes per round?

 

 

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[GeekingGolf]

I don't see any huge issues with your swing. It is very smooth and compact. I would recommend you try to stand a little taller with less rounding in the shoulders. Try to control those angles from hip to base of the neck.

 

I see in your profile you play to around an 8 handicap. Do you know where you are losing those 8 strokes per round?

 

 

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Truthfully my weakness is putting and I have developed a fade lately ( last year I had a draw) the fade has led to more GIR i lose a ball occasionally too i have long arms and i am short so that does affect the stance overall i have a good tee game and iron game wedge game is much better now with the Ben Hogans putting putting putting

 

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[GeekingGolf]

I weakened my grip after reading the Ben Hogan book yes I know I know

 

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[GB13]

I weakened my grip after reading the Ben Hogan book yes I know I know

 

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The weakened grip is why you lost the draw and added the fade.

[GeekingGolf]

No doubt I feel like I am way more accurate though

 

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[gaussman1]

Here is my current golf swing. Just looking for some suggestions on how to improve it. I shot this video while testing the Ben Hogan Equalizer wedges. Two things I am working on right now 1.) keeping my spine angle through to the follow through and 2.) getting my hands lower to establish a better angle between my arms and the shaft of the club at address. Here is the link to YouTube. https://youtu.be/1au21q2RM28

 

 

It's a nice swing. Good rhythm and tempo. That's funny you mention trying to set your hands lower, as I immediately thought I would want you to stand taller and get your hands and left arm higher at the top so the club can stay on line longer in the backswing.

But it looks like a swing you can play a lot of nice golf from. Probably don't hit it real long but probably hit a lot of fades in play. There's a lot to be said for being in play.

[GeekingGolf]

It's a nice swing. Good rhythm and tempo. That's funny you mention trying to set your hands lower, as I immediately thought I would want you to stand taller and get your hands and left arm higher at the top so the club can stay on line longer in the backswing.

But it looks like a swing you can play a lot of nice golf from. Probably don't hit it real long but probably hit a lot of fades in play. There's a lot to be said for being in play.

Thanks man it works pretty good but if my timing is off not so good end up hitting cut shots unintentionally. Trying to get it more consistent. I'll hit 74, 79, them 85, 84 you know.

 

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[SteddyGolf]

Truthfully my weakness is putting and I have developed a fade lately ( last year I had a draw) the fade has led to more GIR i lose a ball occasionally too i have long arms and i am short so that does affect the stance overall i have a good tee game and iron game wedge game is much better now with the Ben Hogans putting putting putting

 

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I struggle with putting as well. A drill that absolutely works is not allowing yourself to leave the practice green until you've made 25 in a row from 3 to 5 feet. It's difficult at first but the more you do it the easier it gets. Funny thing is I played basketball growing up. I wasn't fast but I was a well above average shot maker. When I practiced I'd finish the workout by making 95 out of 100 free throws. When it became game time I was money whenever I stepped to the foul line.

 

Putting, putting, putting? Practice, practice, practice.

 

 

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[GeekingGolf]

I struggle with putting as well. A drill that absolutely works is not allowing yourself to leave the practice green until you've made 25 in a row from 3 to 5 feet. It's difficult at first but the more you do it the easier it gets. Funny thing is I played basketball growing up. I wasn't fast but I was a well above average shot maker. When I practiced I'd finish the workout by making 95 out of 100 free throws. When it became game time I was money whenever I stepped to the foul line.

 

Putting, putting, putting? Practice, practice, practice.

 

 

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I will start on that drill asap. I usually am pretty good from 3-5 but outside of that dont make a lot but my 3 putts are rare these days so that is a plus. I am getting better and better with my $47 Scotty

 

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[SteddyGolf]

I will start on that drill asap. I usually am pretty good from 3-5 but outside of that dont make a lot but my 3 putts are rare these days so that is a plus. I am getting better and better with my $47 Scotty

 

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It's amazing how strokes can add up. One errant drive, missed chip, three putt or even missed birdie putt; it all goes towards that total stroke count.

 

The purpose of the short putt drill is to work on aim, tempo and swing plane. When you get to the point where you are knocking down 25 to 50 in a row you build muscle memory and aim point.

 

The last thing I'll say is look at the PGA tour professional's averages. These guy have the best equipment fitted specifically to them by world class fitters. They also have the best coaches money can buy. If you are anywhere close to their percentages then you really would be foolish to expect more. Keeping things in perspective and maintaining realistic expectations will help you to maintain your composure which in my experience is the key to moving closer to scratch.

 

 

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[Kor.A.Door]

I struggle with putting as well. A drill that absolutely works is not allowing yourself to leave the practice green until you've made 25 in a row from 3 to 5 feet. It's difficult at first but the more you do it the easier it gets. Funny thing is I played basketball growing up. I wasn't fast but I was a well above average shot maker. When I practiced I'd finish the workout by making 95 out of 100 free throws. When it became game time I was money whenever I stepped to the foul line.

 

Putting, putting, putting? Practice, practice, practice.

 

 

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We used to play a game called 7 up on the free throw line, usually at the end of practice when you are tired, and it involved lots of running when you missed. Our coach also required 7-10 made FT, and for every miss out of ten you had to run what we called 60's (ladder run), either you got better or you ran. I usually ran 1 or none. It worked well at the end of games since we were used to being tired and shooting FT. This makes sense to do this for putting to end the putting session.