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My name is Michael, and I have a MGS confession to make. I'm approaching my 500th post here. I'm moving up the classification of Spies. And I just posted my very first official club review.

 

But I'm not getting along with my new Evnroll putter (the ER6, in black).

 

I just played with it again this morning, and had 20 putts on nine holes. Three 3-putts!

 

I'm about seven rounds in with the ER6, and my strokes gained putting stats (in Game Golf) are going the wrong way.

 

I love the look of this putter. I've paid more for it than for any other single club I've ever bought. I'm a loyal MGS guy, and I think we're contractually obligated to like Evnrolls.

 

But my Elevado 2135 is looking disgruntled, wondering why I've replaced it with a putter that's performing worse for me.

 

Stick it out? Bench it for a bit? If I go back to the Cleveland, will I lose a Spy ranking here? Worse, will my wife kill me for spending $250 on a putter that's not in my bag?

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There is always a learning curve with new clubs especially putters but if you feel that it isn't going to work for you, then bench it. Evnrolls work best for the MAJORITY of golfers.

Enjoy the search. The search is half the fun.

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No spy deduction points :D ha ha ha.  That's the rub of golf equipment.  While there mights be a best in class determined by MGS, that's still a generalization and will not work for everyone.  It just can't as we all have different swing types, body types, physical limitations etc.  Just like GB13 said, there is going to be a learning curve (like with the F8 One Lengths I'm testing for the Cobra Connect II challenge).  I'd say give it a few more rounds, and if it's not performing the way you want it to, bench/sell it and move back to your old putter or search for another one.  Maybe best to invest in a putter fitting to truly narrow down what kind of putter you really need (I'm in this boat).

 

 

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LOL.  No you will never lose spy ranking by not taking a Most Wanted suggestion.  The reality is even after 17000+ putts what we find is that is the putter that works best for most golfers.  But not all.  

 

The tech is real but a couple things might be happening.  You could have the right tech but the wrong model.  Meaning one that does not fit your stroke.  They make one for just about every one.  Also, if you find a putter that works better (not just for one bad putting round) go with what works for you. 

 

Definitely writing here with my tongue in cheek, but I also sincerely want this putter to work. Given what I know about my stroke (from a couple of different swing analyzers [swingbyte 2 and 3Bays]), my path is straight rather than arced, but tends to cut from out to in.

 

I've never liked the feel of a putter more than my Elevado, but even that one didn't come alive for me in terms of results until I swapped the grip for a P2. Right now, I'm looking to do the same on the Evnroll. I remain hopeful.

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Definitely writing here with my tongue in cheek, but I also sincerely want this putter to work. Given what I know about my stroke (from a couple of different swing analyzers [swingbyte 2 and 3Bays]), my path is straight rather than arced, but tends to cut from out to in.

 

I've never liked the feel of a putter more than my Elevado, but even that one didn't come alive for me in terms of results until I swapped the grip for a P2. Right now, I'm looking to do the same on the Evnroll. I remain hopeful.

How does the saying go, and it may have been Golspy X that said it, "There's no driver for everyone, but there's one driver for everyone."   Same would go for putter, I would say. 

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How does the saying go, and it may have been Golspy X that said it, "There's no driver for everyone, but there's one driver for everyone." Same would go for putter, I would say.

Perhaps even more so.

 

But I've been there done that in this regard. Not drilling down into the data deep enough. There was an Adams driver a number of years back that everyone raves about and had to have. It was a disaster for me. Lost distance and accuracy. I was also fit into a steel shafted iron by that blasted Mizuno Swing Optimizer - by the time I was done with that combo my game was in shambles

 

 

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Does the Elevado have the TFI face? Just curious, and obviously, it's quite different vs. EvnRoll's patented tech milled face .. and perhaps it's just a better "feel" for you.....

 

As lots of people say in lots of threads on here - play what works for *you*!

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Does the Elevado have the TFI face? Just curious, and obviously, it's quite different vs. EvnRoll's patented tech milled face .. and perhaps it's just a better "feel" for you.....

 

As lots of people say in lots of threads on here - play what works for *you*!

 

Yes, it's the Satin version, with the variable milling across the face. Incredibly soft feel, given the very deep milling in the center and the fact that the milled face sits on top of an insert. If you like a soft feeling putter (and I do), I can't recommend the Cleveland Satin line too much.

 

Here's my only theory about my struggles with the ER6 thus far: the head has the three long and prominent alignment lines on it. It wants to be swung straight back and forth, aimed directly at the target. That's perfect for me on straight putts. But on breaking putts, I've not been one to pick a particular spot to putt to. My approach to breaking putts has tended to be more intuitive or feel-oriented: roll the ball where it seems it would roll on a path to the hole. (If that makes sense).

 

Today, I was hitting my putts with decent enough speed, but starting them with far too little break.

 

I suspect, then, that absent a particular aiming target, the lines are encouraging me to roll the ball on a line to the hole.

 

That's my theory. Or maybe I'm just bad at putting :)

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Yes, it's the Satin version, with the variable milling across the face. Incredibly soft feel, given the very deep milling in the center and the fact that the milled face sits on top of an insert. If you like a soft feeling putter (and I do), I can't recommend the Cleveland Satin line too much.

 

Here's my only theory about my struggles with the ER6 thus far: the head has the three long and prominent alignment lines on it. It wants to be swung straight back and forth, aimed directly at the target. That's perfect for me on straight putts. But on breaking putts, I've not been one to pick a particular spot to putt to. My approach to breaking putts has tended to be more intuitive or feel-oriented: roll the ball where it seems it would roll on a path to the hole. (If that makes sense).

 

Today, I was hitting my putts with decent enough speed, but starting them with far too little break.

 

I suspect, then, that absent a particular aiming target, the lines are encouraging me to roll the ball on a line to the hole.

 

That's my theory. Or maybe I'm just bad at putting :)

That theory makes sense. It has been said many times, you need a club fit to you not a club that you need to fit your stroke to. If you don't pick a specific target or use the alignment aid on the ball, the Evnroll probably isn't the putter for you. It sounds like you had a good thing with the Cleveland so I am not sure I would change putters at this point.

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I didn't know this at first, but you actually use the dot or line on the higher side to aim (ask jlukes)

 

So if you have a right to left break, you would aim it with the dot/line closer to the toe. This helps to stay on the high side.

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My name is Michael, and I have a MGS confession to make. I'm approaching my 500th post here. I'm moving up the classification of Spies. And I just posted my very first official club review.

 

But I'm not getting along with my new Evnroll putter (the ER6, in black).

 

I just played with it again this morning, and had 20 putts on nine holes. Three 3-putts!

 

I'm about seven rounds in with the ER6, and my strokes gained putting stats (in Game Golf) are going the wrong way.

 

I love the look of this putter. I've paid more for it than for any other single club I've ever bought. I'm a loyal MGS guy, and I think we're contractually obligated to like Evnrolls.

 

But my Elevado 2135 is looking disgruntled, wondering why I've replaced it with a putter that's performing worse for me.

 

Stick it out? Bench it for a bit? If I go back to the Cleveland, will I lose a Spy ranking here? Worse, will my wife kill me for spending $250 on a putter that's not in my bag?

First thing, You won't lose points for not using the Evnroll, but you will lose points because your wife knows how much you spent on golf equipment that you aren't using.😁

 

As for not putting well with it, that's golf, switch it up and try it again later, or sell it here, I'm sure someone will buy it.

I've got a friend who played college golf, and one of his coaches always told him, you never get rid of a putter. you can sell, trade, give away, burn any other club, but never get rid of a putter, you never know when it will work for you.

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Ahhh.. if it were me I'd kick the guy out for dissing a MW product. LOL

Just messing with ya riley....

I believe I'd stack it in the corner for a while and go back to the one that brung ya. I have a Cobra driver that was a 3rd place MWD finisher back in 2015 and I wanted this driver since the day I saw it. Everyone said it was a killer stick. So I bought one. And guess what.... I can't make it work. So guess what again? I'm sticking with my ancient 2014 SLDR. Because it works amazingly well for me.

I think you can quickly sell that Evnroll easily right here in the Forum if you wanted.

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Yes, it's the Satin version, with the variable milling across the face. Incredibly soft feel, given the very deep milling in the center and the fact that the milled face sits on top of an insert. If you like a soft feeling putter (and I do), I can't recommend the Cleveland Satin line too much.

 

Here's my only theory about my struggles with the ER6 thus far: the head has the three long and prominent alignment lines on it. It wants to be swung straight back and forth, aimed directly at the target. That's perfect for me on straight putts. But on breaking putts, I've not been one to pick a particular spot to putt to. My approach to breaking putts has tended to be more intuitive or feel-oriented: roll the ball where it seems it would roll on a path to the hole. (If that makes sense).

 

Today, I was hitting my putts with decent enough speed, but starting them with far too little break.

 

I suspect, then, that absent a particular aiming target, the lines are encouraging me to roll the ball on a line to the hole.

 

That's my theory. Or maybe I'm just bad at putting :)

If I recall, in your basement putter test you weren't crazy about the MLA, either .. which also happens to have a full-milled (and IMHO firm-feeling) face; so tenuous, subjective conclusion is you prefer the softer-feel insert face..?

 

On the alignment lines - your theory is completely plausible. MGS, and Edel, have posted really interesting articles about why there are so many variations of alignment lines because each individual perceives and reacts to them differently .. eg. certain variations may cause one person to inadvertantly line up more left while the same thing might cause another to line up more right...!

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Step one in my "save my Evnroll" project: pulling the shaft and replacing it. In general, I'm finding that it's easier (and relatively cheap, with putter shafts) to pull the shaft than it is to try to pull the grip (because I'm not interested in cutting it off).

 

So if I'm going to change out shafts, I'm going to replace it with a matte black one that matches the head.

 

P2 grip arrives Monday.

 

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Have you thought about paint filling the outer and inner alignment lines black so you can focus on the center line?

 

Also, were you custom fit for your ER6? It makes a huge difference on alignment. I have the ER1.2 TourBlade and had it custom fit at EVNROLL. When I tried it “off the rack” it felt great but wasn't dialed in accurate for me. After a few adjustments, it was lights out.

 

I hope this helps as it's a fantastic putter and I'd like to see you keep it in the bag.

 

 

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If I recall, in your basement putter test you weren't crazy about the MLA, either .. which also happens to have a full-milled (and IMHO firm-feeling) face; so tenuous, subjective conclusion is you prefer the softer-feel insert face..?

 

On the alignment lines - your theory is completely plausible. MGS, and Edel, have posted really interesting articles about why there are so many variations of alignment lines because each individual perceives and reacts to them differently .. eg. certain variations may cause one person to inadvertantly line up more left while the same thing might cause another to line up more right...!

 

You've nailed this: all else being equal, I like a putter that feels really soft. I've rolled a couple of the O-Works putters in stores, and they feel like mush. I like it.

 

On the plus side, with the Evnroll, I found that I was almost never leaving anything short. That's one advantage of a bit firmer face.

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Have you thought about paint filling the outer and inner alignment lines black so you can focus on the center line?

 

This would be a last resort idea for me, not because it's a bad idea, but because it's the kind of thing I could mangle a bit and really tank the resale value of the ER6 if I do decide to move on.

 

Replacing the shaft with the matte black has already been interesting: because of the near-perfect color match, the shaft essentially disappears at address. As I mentioned above, my P2 grip (a white and red Classic) arrives today. For me, the Cleveland really came alive when I put that P2 on; being able to feel the face of the putter in the palm of my left hand (I putt left-hand low) is profoundly helpful to me.

 

My current solution with the alignment lines is to (more or less) ignore them, especially during the stroke. Once the putter is in place, I seem to do better if I'm mentally treating my putter like it's merely a face (rather than a large, lined head). Makes me wonder if the Spider with no alignment lines would work for me.

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This would be a last resort idea for me, not because it's a bad idea, but because it's the kind of thing I could mangle a bit and really tank the resale value of the ER6 if I do decide to move on.

You could try some black pin striping tape to cover the white; easily removed.

 

Best of luck on the shaft change.  After the initial MGS review, I tried all the Evnroll models at a PGA Superstore in Phoenix.  Never did find one that felt good to me; just something about the weight.

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Hey Michael. Foz here.....I tested the original Evnroll ER6.....I struggled for a long time, would change out to a different putter for a couple rounds, then go back to the ER6. It has taken me 1 1/2 years to finally get the feel. I even changed my grip to an interlock, like TW, and finally can say I love this putter. So stick with it and you may grow to love it.

 

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