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I just got back from Golf Galaxy, and was testing putters. I tried various Pings, TMs, Odyssey putters. They all felt so soft, It was like I couldn't really feel the strike. Are there any putters with a firmer feel?

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MLA, Bettinardi, and Toulon. These are much firmer feeling because they don't have inserts. If the putter is a milled face with no insert it will be firmer. All the putters you hit had an insert.

Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff

Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff

Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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Define "firm"? Some may interpret firm as "clicky" or dare I say it "harsh". Not exactly qualities usually sought after in putting, however there are some tips to avoid the softer feel.

 

1. Avoid heavier head designs - something under 300g should be used if possible. Could be tricky with modern mallet designs.

2. Avoid steel - either carbon or stainless. Pings original Manganese bronze has a pretty firm feel to it, as does the good old Bullseye.

3. Use a steel shaft with a slim grip - heads with the shafts nearer to the centre of the face will tend to feel firmer.

4. Avoid inserts of any kind unless they are ceramic. 

5. Consider changing your ball to a firmer design

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I would agree, what do you mean by “firm”? Inserts can be firmer feeling and non inserts can be softer. Multiple things go into the feeling of a putter like material,

Face thickness and milling patterns.

 

I find that most insert putters don't allow me to feel where on the face the ball makes impact. Is that what you want? If so, you just have to keep searching, seems like they are becoming fewer and fewer as most people want soft dull sounding putters

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I just got back from Golf Galaxy, and was testing putters. I tried various Pings, TMs, Odyssey putters. They all felt so soft, It was like I couldn't really feel the strike. Are there any putters with a firmer feel?

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I just got back from Golf Galaxy, and was testing putters. I tried various Pings, TMs, Odyssey putters. They all felt so soft, It was like I couldn't really feel the strike. Are there any putters with a firmer feel?

Serious answer:

 

Try an MLA full-forged, ie. Tour, model.

 

Did those others have insert faces? If so, those do have a softer feel.

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7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R)

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5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3)
6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 
54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite)
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Serious answer:

 

Try an MLA full-forged, ie. Tour, model.

 

Did those others have insert faces? If so, those do have a softer feel.

All the putters I tried had inserts, and had very muted sound and feel. I do prefer the putter to make a click when I hit the ball. I'm currently using a Cameron Circa 62 #6, and a Bridgestone Tour RX. 

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All the putters I tried had inserts, and had very muted sound and feel. I do prefer the putter to make a click when I hit the ball. I'm currently using a Cameron Circa 62 #6, and a Bridgestone Tour RX.

My biggest advice is just avoid inserts and large grips.

Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff

Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff

Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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Try a Cleveland Huntington Beach or a Wilson Infinite. Milled putters at a decent price point.

 

 

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All the putters I tried had inserts, and had very muted sound and feel. I do prefer the putter to make a click when I hit the ball. I'm currently using a Cameron Circa 62 #6, and a Bridgestone Tour RX. 

 

Thinner faces, and less aggressive milling.  The carbon putter that was in most wanted testing has a nice ting sound at impact.   

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My biggest advice is just avoid inserts and large grips.

 

In my experience, the grip plays a huge part in the feel of the putter. The smaller/firmer the grip, the firmer the feel. Yes, there are firm putters out there like the Odyssey O-Works and some of the older Bettinardi's, but if you put a grip like a Flat Cat or Superstroke Slim 3.0 or GP Tour SNSR on a putter, it will mute the feel of the putter. Put a Ping man grip or Lamkin deep etch grip, and it will firm up the feel/give you a better feel of strike location. 

 

Next time you're at a golf shop, try to find the same putter but with different grips and see if that makes a difference. 

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Well, since I know it's coming, I'll do it...

 

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Are these sold in stores, or are they online only?

Sold in stores. Not very widely though.

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Are these sold in stores, or are they online only?

 

Here's the Evnroll dealer locator:

 

https://evnroll.com/storelocator/

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I do love the Cleveland Huntington Beach 1 (or any other style, you prefer).  If, your wallet is fatter than mine, I owned a Betti, and that was a good feeling, good sounding putter.

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I'm in the same boat! I prefer a firm putter, that's why the Anser 3 always makes its way back in the bag. Rolling an Odyssey O works which has a firmer feel. Give it s shot!

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I find people's perception of feel/sound interesting. Several people in this thread describe the. O-works face as firm. For me there is no feeling off the face and it feels mushy and not firm at all. Probably need to come up with better descriptions for feel/sound than soft or firm.

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I just got back from Golf Galaxy, and was testing putters. I tried various Pings, TMs, Odyssey putters. They all felt so soft, It was like I couldn't really feel the strike. Are there any putters with a firmer feel?

 

Off the top of my head and based on my opinion:

 

Taylor made spider tour black

PXG gunboat

Bettinardi with the honeycomb milling

Toulon putters

 

Those first two may have inserts but felt firmer though the PXG had the least feedback. Generally I stay away from insert putters for the same reason, though the Toulon putters have the sharpest feedback when you stray from the milling in the middle of the face, almost a tinny aluminum response.

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