Alf. S Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I was playing today at a par 3. I hit my tee shot, it pitched on a bank and started to roll down the hill towards the green. A dog then ran down the hill and before it stop picked it up and ran towards his owner. The owner then tried to get the ball and threw a ball back towards the green. Maybe about 5 yards from the original spot. When I arrived at the green the ball that was thrown back was not my ball. The dog and master had disappeared. So what is the rule and what should I do? I took a ruling from a Marshall which I think was wrong. I carded a 5, fumed for 3 holes and ended up missing buffer. WIMB Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff 3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff 3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff 52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 So you couldn't find your ball? I would think you'd go hit another from the tee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 It sucks, but you must take a lost ball and hit 3 from the tee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. 82 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Replay from the tee. No penalty. The original ball was not lost but stolen by outside influences. Not your fault, so retee without penalty. Same deal when you hit electrical wires over a hole. Hit them and the shot is null and void and you must rehit. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy G400 Driver XR 4 Fairway 16.5° Fli-Hi Utility Iron - 21° G Series 5-9 irons SM7 46°, 50°, 54° & 58° Ghost Spider S putter Nexus Laser Rangefinder Garmin Approach S20 GPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeSmails Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 this seems to apply Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Driver: TR20 10.5* Hybrids: Epic SuperHybrid 3 18* Epic 4h 23* Irons: JPX900 Hot Metal 5-GW Wedges: CBX2 52* 56* 60* Putter: EV8 Ball: Tour BXS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I dont believe that is correct. If others saw the ball get picked up by the dog, and the ball cannot be found you are allowed to replace a new ball as close to where the ball was picked up from as possible, and proceed with no penalty. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 19-1/6 Ball Picked Up or Deflected by Dog on Putting Green After Stroke from Off GreenQ.A ball played from off the green was about a foot from the hole and still in motion when it was moved by a dog to a spot about ten feet from the hole. The ball was either deflected by the dog or the dog picked it up, ran with it and dropped it. What is the ruling? A.If the ball was deflected, it would be played as it lay, without penalty, from the spot to which it was moved by the dog (Rule 19-1). If the dog picked up the ball, the player should have placed the ball, without penalty, as near as possible to the spot where the original ball was when the dog picked it up (Rule 19-1a). Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 19-1/6 Ball Picked Up or Deflected by Dog on Putting Green After Stroke from Off Green Q.A ball played from off the green was about a foot from the hole and still in motion when it was moved by a dog to a spot about ten feet from the hole. The ball was either deflected by the dog or the dog picked it up, ran with it and dropped it. What is the ruling? A.If the ball was deflected, it would be played as it lay, without penalty, from the spot to which it was moved by the dog (Rule 19-1). If the dog picked up the ball, the player should have placed the ball, without penalty, as near as possible to the spot where the original ball was when the dog picked it up (Rule 19-1a). Yes - I've actually seen this only with a seagull. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf. S Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 19-1/6 Ball Picked Up or Deflected by Dog on Putting Green After Stroke from Off GreenQ.A ball played from off the green was about a foot from the hole and still in motion when it was moved by a dog to a spot about ten feet from the hole. The ball was either deflected by the dog or the dog picked it up, ran with it and dropped it. What is the ruling? A.If the ball was deflected, it would be played as it lay, without penalty, from the spot to which it was moved by the dog (Rule 19-1). If the dog picked up the ball, the player should have placed the ball, without penalty, as near as possible to the spot where the original ball was when the dog picked it up (Rule 19-1a). I think this would have been the rule if the ball that the owner threw back was mine. Which from a distance look like the case but when we got to the green it was a different ball, I think he had trouble getting it from the dog and just threw one on the green from his pocket. I think it would have to be deemed as a lost ball but with or without penalty but I can't find the rule reference. The Marshal said to drop a ball where the dog picked it up which I thought was wrong and compounded my mental angist. WIMB Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff 3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff 3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff 52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf. S Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 BTW I'm using the Arccos app and trying to edit my round but it doesn't have a "dog p!ssed off with my ball penalty button" either ;-) WIMB Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff 3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff 3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff 52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I think this would have been the rule if the ball that the owner threw back was mine. Which from a distance look like the case but when we got to the green it was a different ball, I think he had trouble getting it from the dog and just threw one on the green from his pocket. I think it would have to be deemed as a lost ball but with or without penalty but I can't find the rule reference. The Marshal said to drop a ball where the dog picked it up which I thought was wrong and compounded my mental angist. Nope dog took the ball. You saw the dog take the ball drop at the spot where the dog picked up the ball. The owner throwing it back is not relevant. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I adore dogs, but could never take my beagle, God rest his precious soul, out onto the course with me. He'd always sniff something and take off after it. Thankfully, it was never a bear, so he lived to sixteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Nope dog took the ball. You saw the dog take the ball drop at the spot where the dog picked up the ball. The owner throwing it back is not relevant. This is how I read it as well. As long as others saw the dog pick up the ball, it doesn't matter what ball I placed down. If the dog dropped the ball into a lake and it was lost, it doesn't matter, you replace the ball and place it where the dog picked it up. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryhenderson Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Outside of the rule in question. Id say the dogs owner might have trained that dog and found him an easy way to snatch up good ProVs Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf. S Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Outside of the rule in question. Id say the dogs owner might have trained that dog and found him an easy way to snatch up good ProVs Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Dog took a new Chrome Soft and owner threw back a Vice. Never used a Vice so it will end up in my practise ball bag. WIMB Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff 3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff 3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff 52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Funny story Alfs. A friend once had a bobcat run onto the green (it was hiding in the bunker watching us) and proceeded to play with the ball - swatting it around before noticing us approaching and then running off. Interesting ruling; but since you weren't in a tournament you can do whatever you like. When I'm out by myself or practicing I don't bother with rules. Certainly I wouldn't take rules advice for a Marshall. At least not around my course. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Hey Plaid, Has anybody told you how much you look like Slammin' Sam Snead? It's remarkable, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreLooper Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I adore dogs, but could never take my beagle, God rest his precious soul, out onto the course with me. He'd always sniff something and take off after it. Thankfully, it was never a bear, so he lived to sixteen. Mine is the same way. Whenever we're outside, she is nose down, tail up. When she smells a cat or rabbit, thousands of years of breeding kick in. Sent from my SM-J727VPP using MyGolfSpy mobile app What's in the bag: Driver - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Wood (13.5*) - 980F 4 Wood (18*) - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Hybrid (19*) - RBZ 4i - PW - D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S ) 52* - CBX 58* - CBX Full Face 2 Putter - Craz-e Bag - 2.5 (Blue) Ball - AVX Instagram - @hardcorelooper Twitter - @meovino Facebook - mike.eovino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 A couple years ago we had some kids run out of the woods on 12 green and steal my buddies ball. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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