Shankster Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just bringing the facts to a debate that is seemingly driven around emotion around this kid, Shanks. That's all. I'm not disagreeing. He's got some talent. And probably puts way too much stress on himself. I could care less how he swings the club, or his quirks... If he is a fit for the team awesome, if not no big deal, try again in 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 I would NOT put Phil on the team. He'd serve, just like Tiger did last time, as Vice Captain. I like Schauffele as he's calm, cool, even-keeled. Finau's putting is suspect at times. Kisner's been good as of late. But NO Phil. He's not a benefit in anyway with his current playing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I would NOT put Phil on the team. He'd serve, just like Tiger did last time, as Vice Captain. I like Schauffele as he's calm, cool, even-keeled. Finau's putting is suspect at times. Kisner's been good as of late. But NO Phil. He's not a benefit in anyway with his current playing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Phil always seems to rise to the task of Ryder Cups though. He can be on a terrible cold streak but when he gets to the Ryder Cup, BOOM everything changes and he is a stellar player again. He has a win this year, so clearly he still has good golf to play. I can't see a scenario where he is left off. The first to spots will go to Phil and Tiger for sure. The other two are where things get complicated. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I'm not disagreeing. He's got some talent. And probably puts way too much stress on himself. I could care less how he swings the club, or his quirks... If he is a fit for the team awesome, if not no big deal, try again in 2 years. I got you man, no harm and mean-spiritedness intended. It's just me letting out some stress and fustration with the narrative around him. In a Hoofer Lite bag TSR2, 10 degrees, A1 setting, Fujikara Speeder NX Blue 50-S Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Tour B-XS (2022 Model) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 If I'm Jim Furyk, I'm wondering how we ended up with 2 nearly identical threads that have not been merged yet.... :P Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Absolutely NO PHIL... Except as Vice Captain Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Phil always seems to rise to the task of Ryder Cups though. He can be on a terrible cold streak but when he gets to the Ryder Cup, BOOM everything changes and he is a stellar player again. He has a win this year, so clearly he still has good golf to play. I can't see a scenario where he is left off. The first to spots will go to Phil and Tiger for sure. The other two are where things get complicated. Mmm. His record doesn't show the “boomâ€... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 With Phil's poor play as of late, his less than stellar record in the past shouldn't get him on the playing team. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Mmm. His record doesn't show the “boomâ€... IMG_6120.PNG Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro He is a good singles and fourball player. Just don't play him in foursomes. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 He is a good singles and fourball player. Just don't play him in foursomes.I'd rather take a chance on a younger guy. With Phil, it's a 50/50 chance he wins.... I would think Schauffele would have a 50/50 shot, as well as others, and the young one is getting experience for years to come. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thainer21 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Tiger, Kuch, Finau, ZJ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Absolutely NO PHIL... Except as Vice Captain Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro -1000 on this one. He should absolutely be on the team. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanSterlingPrice Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I like Kisner and Phil for sure, both have the mentality for the matches and in spite of some issues with recent form Phil can turn on for the cup. Tiger could very well be a given for his recent showings and if for some reason he doesn't play I can't think of him being out of an assistant job. Last pick is a bit trickier for me, Bryson is a wild card but something in me wonders if he couldn't be the U.S.A equivalent to Poulter/Sergio in the cup events but he has shown to be an all or not so much kind of player. Kuchar is a good competitor and Xander has the points in his favor. Furyk has some thinking to do... Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Right Handed 4.5 handicap Driver: Nike Vapor Flex with Mitsubishi Rayon Fubuki ZT60x5ct S-flex shaft and stock grip. 3-Metal: Nike VRS 15 degree with Mitsubishi Rayon tour issue Diamana S73x5ct X-flex shaft and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grip. Irons: Ben Hogan PTx 22, 26, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46 degrees standard length and lie with KBS Tour-V stiff shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Wedges: Ben Hogan TK15 54, 58 degrees with KBS Tour-V X-flex shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Putter: Nike Method Converge B1|01 with Superstroke Flatso 2.0 grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardle Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Tiger, Kuch, Finau, ZJ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ZJ over Kisner...thats cold man... RH: Driver: F9 9.0º - 14g Low - Evenflow White T1100 75G X Woods: F9 3W - Evenflow White T1100 75G X Hybrids: F9 3H - Aldila Green X Irons: F9 One Length 4-PW - Modus3 Tour 105 S Wedges: King Wedges 50º/54º/58º Versatile Putter: Sigma G Tyne 35" Ball: Srixon Z Star XV #cobraconnect19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Kisner got my vote during the Dell Match Play. Although he faltered in the final match against Bubba.... Tiger Woods, Gary Woodland, Aaron Wise, Brian Harman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Aaron Wise See Shanks, this is why I like you alot. That's super out of the box, but fits the bill perfectly. Dude's a gamer! In a Hoofer Lite bag TSR2, 10 degrees, A1 setting, Fujikara Speeder NX Blue 50-S Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Tour B-XS (2022 Model) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thainer21 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 ZJ over Kisner...thats cold man...ZJ putts much better imo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 See Shanks, this is why I like you alot. That's super out of the box, but fits the bill perfectly. Dude's a gamer! Well at least someone around here likes me! Makes sense to me. He might get nervous a bit, but pair him up with a vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I got say. For as much as Phil and Tiger have done for the game of golf, and for the Ryder cup, I think that as long as they are able to physically, and as long as they are able to contribute something to the team, they will both be on every Ryder cup and presidents cup team until they decide not to be. They could play 1 match per day and the the singles and still contribute something. Phil is a team guy, you can put him with just about anyone. Pair Tiger with the right person and they can do damage, think of Stricker and Tiger. I think of the last Ryder cup with Phil where during the singles match he made 10 birdies. My four picks are Phil, Tiger, Kisner, and the fourth is Tough, Kichar is a veteran and a solid partner for anyone, but then you have Finau who isn't quite there yet, but shows great potential. Think about Tomas Peiters in the last Ryder cup. It will be interesting to see who Furyk picks, but I think Tiger, Phil and Kisner are on the team, the last one is between Four guys. Kuchar, Finau, ZJ, and Bryson. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geez2323 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I like Tiger, Kisner, Kuchar or Finau to fill the spots. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Ahhh. I saw that. There was a Reed in there instead of Finau. I like your Choice to give Tony the nod though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmarkiel Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I would definitely pick tiger and Phil just on experience alone, final has been consistent all season. Not sure about the last spot, toss up New golf addict, high handicap but improving weekly. Play 2 times a week and go to the range 2 times a week. Average round is down to 108. Used taylormade irons, Dunlap driver, cheap Ray cook putter. Starting to realize that equipment and balls are starting to make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geez2323 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Ahhh. I saw that. There was a Reed in there instead of Finau. I like your Choice to give Tony the nod though. Ha. Yes, you are good Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Top 8 obviously - unfortunately we can't sub out Webb. My 4 picks would be The Cat, Kisner, Xander, and Finau. Time to get some young blood experience in the Ryder Cup. Phil hasn't done anything as of late to prove to me he's worth of a pick. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk I agree. As much as I love Phil, his Ryder Cup record is less than stellar and he's not been playing well this season. Getting some of the new talent in the mix and experience with this venue will pay long term dividends - and quite possibly immediate dividends. G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I agree. As much as I love Phil, his Ryder Cup record is less than stellar and he's not been playing well this season. Getting some of the new talent in the mix and experience with this venue will pay long term dividends - and quite possibly immediate dividends. He won this season. So I'm not sure how he hasn't played well. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGoBlue100 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I got say. For as much as Phil and Tiger have done for the game of golf, and for the Ryder cup, I think that as long as they are able to physically, and as long as they are able to contribute something to the team, they will both be on every Ryder cup and presidents cup team until they decide not to be. They could play 1 match per day and the the singles and still contribute something. Phil is a team guy, you can put him with just about anyone. Pair Tiger with the right person and they can do damage, think of Stricker and Tiger. I think of the last Ryder cup with Phil where during the singles match he made 10 birdies. My four picks are Phil, Tiger, Kisner, and the fourth is Tough, Kichar is a veteran and a solid partner for anyone, but then you have Finau who isn't quite there yet, but shows great potential. Think about Tomas Peiters in the last Ryder cup. It will be interesting to see who Furyk picks, but I think Tiger, Phil and Kisner are on the team, the last one is between Four guys. Kuchar, Finau, ZJ, and Bryson. Totally agree with you. Phil does more than just “playâ€, and he definitely elevated his game the last two team competitions. This is probably the swan song for him; hope the US can take care of business in Paris. Euros are going to be strong & motivated. #mustseeTV! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy "Where'd it go?" "Right in the Lumberyard..." Gen 2 0811 XF 10.5* Graphite Design Tour AD DI-6x Gen 2 0211 15* 3W Mitsubishi Tensei Raw Blue 65-S Tour B JGR 15* Fairway UST ProForce V2 7F5 76g X-Flex (These two are gonna fight it out in early "24 to see who stays in the bag...) Tour B JGR 19* & 22* Hybrid UST ProForce V2 90g X-Flex Tour B JGR HF-2 irons (5i - PW) KBS Tour 130x CBX Wedges (50, 54, 58) TT Dynamic Gold 115 Wedge Shaft MATI Mamo Putter 33" Super Stroke Football League 3.0 Slim Hoofer Camo Stand Bag Precision Pro Nexus Rangefinder FAN! PRO Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 He won this season. So I'm not sure how he hasn't played well. Yes, he won but overall his stats and performance is not the normal Phil. I think right now he is a more difficult decision (for Furyk) than normal. G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I think based on Phil's history with the Ryder Cup, the only way he doesn't play is if he tells Furyk to not pick him. Furyk is in a difficult spot. Fans would never want him to captain another Ryder Cup team and he would face some backlash from the golfing community if he doesn't pick Phil. But conversely, is picking Phil best for the team? I think Phil will play well if picked. I think he will turn it on for the Ryder Cup. His singles record is just too good not to pick him. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 So, who are the hot players in 2018?? What would the standings be if Furyk only used the Ryder Cup points from 2018, not the past two years like they do??? 1. Brooks Koepka 2. Dustin Johnson 3. Patrick Reed 4. Justin Thomas 5. Bubba Watson 6. Webb Simpson 7. Bryson DeChambeau 8. Tiger Woods 9. Phil Mickelson 10. Rickie Fowler 11. Tony Finau 12. Xander Schauffele 13. Jordan Spieth 14. Kevin Kisner I'd be happy with the top 12 players. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 So, who are the hot players in 2018?? What would the standings be if Furyk only used the Ryder Cup points from 2018, not the past two years like they do??? 1. Brooks Koepka 2. Dustin Johnson 3. Patrick Reed 4. Justin Thomas 5. Bubba Watson 6. Webb Simpson 7. Bryson DeChambeau 8. Tiger Woods 9. Phil Mickelson 10. Rickie Fowler 11. Tony Finau 12. Xander Schauffele 13. Jordan Spieth 14. Kevin Kisner I'd be happy with the top 12 players. Very interesting and that would be a stout team. Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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