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You're the epitome of why most country club golfers are jacka55es. I'll play you for your membership anytime douchebag.

 

 

 

I think we all understand where you're coming from, Goinlow, but maybe it was just another alcohol-induced post.

I don't think that you believe that MOST country club golfers are jackasses.

And none of us would deny that an unfortunate number of them are.

 

Lucky for me and my reputation with you, i belong to a "Golf and Racquet Club." no "country" in the title, so I have to earn my jackass stripes some other way.  And if you've followed my posts, you may very well conclude that I have!

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I routinely play as a guest at two very exclusive private clubs here in Hawaii. One of these clubs has a $50,000 initial fee. I come from very modest means and as an enlisted Soldier definitely don't belong financially in this group. Still, I am welcomed with open arms by some incredibly nice people. You see just because you have money doesn't make you a jerk. Believe me jerks come from all social groups.

 

From a fiscal means and or responsibility standpoint one could argue the amount of money you spend on pay for play green fees annually would come very close to a membership in a private club. Of course variables like weather and location could have a significant effect on that financial balance.

 

I play approximately 60 rounds of golf a year. In Hawaii the average green fee is around $65. That means I spend close to $4000 a year on pay for play greens fees. Although I've never joined a club I have seen numerous clubs with membership fees far less than $4000 a year.

 

I'm with everyone else in regard to signing a contract or obligation without testing the waters first. 90 trial period is the way to go.

 

Benefits for joining a private club?

 

1. Normally but not always the golf course is in better condition and is more challenging.

 

2. Ease of play for over crowding is not normally a problem.

 

3. Hackers like what you see on Caddy Shake are few and far between. People are usually very nice and courteous.

 

4. Access to showers and lockers

 

5. Broaden your perspective through developing relationships with people of different socioeconomic backgrounds.

 

Drawbacks

 

1. Can be expensive

 

2. Locked in on the same course all the time.

 

3. Might not have shared values and beliefs with other members.

 

4. Rigid financial agreement.

 

5. Dress code and code of conduct closely monitored. This is a benefit in my book but I can see where others might like a more free willing environment.

 

 

 

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I routinely play as a guest at two very exclusive private clubs here in Hawaii. One of these clubs has a $50,000 initial fee. I come from very modest means and as an enlisted Soldier definitely don't belong financially in this group. Still, I am welcomed with open arms by some incredibly nice people. You see just because you have money doesn't make you a jerk. Believe me jerks come from all social groups.

 

From a fiscal means and or responsibility standpoint one could argue the amount of money you spend on pay for play green fees annually would come very close to a membership in a private club. Of course variables like weather and location could have a significant effect on that financial balance.

 

I play approximately 60 rounds of golf a year. In Hawaii the average green fee is around $65. That means I spend close to $4000 a year on pay for play greens fees. Although I've never joined a club I have seen numerous clubs with membership fees far less than $4000 a year.

 

I'm with everyone else in regard to signing a contract or obligation without testing the waters first. 90 trial period is the way to go.

 

Benefits for joining a private club?

 

1. Normally but not always the golf course is in better condition and is more challenging.

 

2. Ease of play for over crowding is not normally a problem.

 

3. Hackers like what you see on Caddy Shake are few and far between. People are usually very nice and courteous.

 

4. Access to showers and lockers

 

5. Broaden your perspective through developing relationships with people of different socioeconomic backgrounds.

 

Drawbacks

 

1. Can be expensive

 

2. Locked in on the same course all the time.

 

3. Might not have shared values and beliefs with other members.

 

4. Rigid financial agreement.

 

5. Dress code and code of conduct closely monitored. This is a benefit in my book but I can see where others might like a more free willing environment.

 

 

 

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Your pluses and minuses are well stated . And thank you for your service.

 

 

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This entire post reminds me of why I left the golf business.

 

People asking questions they already know the answers to, bad information and self-aggrandizement.

 

I think this horse is dead.

 

 

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This entire post reminds me of why I left the golf business.

 

People asking questions they already know the answers to, bad information and self-aggrandizement.

 

I think this horse is dead.

 

 

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That's a big word. I had to look it up. Now I'm insulted lmao

 

 

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That's a big word. I had to look it up. Now I'm insulted lmao

 

 

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I still love everyone here.

 

This one just brought back a memory.

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This entire post reminds me of why I left the golf business.

 

People asking questions they already know the answers to, bad information and self-aggrandizement.

 

I think this horse is dead.

 

 

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Heck no, it's not dead it's just trying to get a better read on the green. 

 

I think those three things, and more, are going to pop up in any hobby or recreational sport. More so when there are price tags people feel they can flaunt. As any population increases so does the number of people we find annoying or aggravating. To me the problem boils down to people denying each other respect over a difference of opinion or preference. 

 

It's why I stopped playing a few other sports in my area. When you have 40 year old men throwing tantrums about their $XXX modified bat not being legal and starting fist fights over a close out at 2nd base in co-ed beer league softball, it's time to find a better way to spend your Sunday nights. 

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I'm not sure how to respond to that..... so I'll just walk away from this one.

 

Well stated S&B. Not worth the breath.

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Well I'll just ignore the snob comment from the private club only expert.

 

A private club for me is an experiment in social activities. I join a private club for the friendships you gain from seeing the same people all the time, most with the same vested interest in raising the positive spirits of those around me who are also members. Having a regular group of friends to tee it up with on a Saturday morning, for example is just a small part of the benefit of being a part of a private club. There are dinners, and events, and tournaments, holidays, parties, etc.

 

I've never been a member of a private club, but some of my fondest memories in golf were from the two years in a row where I played in my Dad's member-guest at his club. You spend 3 days playing the same group of guys, and golf is not really the most important part of the experience. And then when I would come back another time to play at the club I would have a dozen or more people I would run into that I had played golf with and we would pick up where we left off.

 

I've played all kinds of golf with all kinds of people in all sorts of clubs. When you join a private club, you are joining a group of people. And not to make this religious, but it's very similar to joining a church. Your choice in clubs or churches is a very similar decision. If you can find a private club where you get along really well with the other members you'll have a great experience. If you join a club that is a snobatorium then your experience will probably be diminished, unless of course you are the snob.

 

There are three private clubs in this town, and I've spent a fair amount of time at several of them, and have played the third one a number of times. I'm considering joining the one by my house because I know a fair number of members of that club from my Tuesday golf league. They are great guys, and all are salt of the earth, generous and humble. The other two clubs have members that come across as cliquish and won't embrace new members very easily. This is an extremely important impression to me, because if I join a club and can't get involved in some sort of regular game, I'd rather not waste my time with that club.

 

With regards to the “riff raff” (certain) people seem to despise at public courses, guard your comments if you would. Consider that every person playing this game is in a different place in life and with their game. Not everyone can break 100 or even 90. We all play golf for different reasons. I just spent this weekend playing in a tournament at the local muni that I am a part of. I met 7 of the nicest people I've played golf with in a long time, ranging in age from 14 to 60+, both black and white as well. I gave lots of encouragement to the 14 and 16 year old that are already better than me, and commiserated with the older guys who know that our time of keeping up with these “young studs” is limited and we just enjoyed the ride. The score was secondary.

 

But this is what public golf should be about; people and relationships. How will you ever grow as a human being if you lock the gates of your private club and give the rest of the world the middle finger because you think you are too good to associate with the “riff raff”? If you keep that attitude long enough you'll be old and alone and in a nursing home, where you'll have to depend on the “riff raff” to change your bedpan.

 

 

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you are the type of person I would love to get paired up with and enjoy a round of golf with. It would be an experience I would cherish.

 

And I have met many wonderful people while playing public courses. That is the beauty of it. Making a connection with a stranger and sharing a bond for a brief period of time while enjoying the game and then the game thereby becomes secondary.

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I've been a member at both public and privates throughout my golf career.And even had a few seasons where I kept a membership active at both facilities at the same time.Anyway, enough ramble, one year I was invited to one of the more elite clubs invitationals at the area.And my home course at the time was a old beat up municipal that I just loved and always will.The Invitational was top notch.And on our carts was our name tags along with the name of the course as a visitor we are a member at. I was the only one on the event that had a public course on their name tag. And a old beat up $13 a round track at that.

So, the first day we were paired with the clubs most popular member.He owned several local car dealerships and businesses.And many summer ) winter homes and properties all throughout the country.The whole front nine of the 27 hole first day was this member just passive bragging about his businesses- beautiful model wife and family - and off course all his accomplishments on and off the course.He presented this whole speel on every tee or shot that we had too wait for because of slow play.He had it down too a science.Pictures on his phone and a million stories all about him.Mr perfect. When he asked where I played at and saw my course name tag his reveling in himself increased beyond douche status. It's almost like he saw fresh common folk meat and was going in for the kill

 

I decided too turn the tables on him.So the whole next nine i

Bombarded him with pics of my family - home - and beat up muni that I play daily.Then the real breaking point was when I told him I mow my own grass and showed him pics of my garden and handy work . He completely turned his demeanor into avoiding me at all costs. And at one point even told his partner to inform our group that he is here just too play golf and not socialize today. The ego maniac never even had enough courage too tell us this directly.He stormed off the course and forfeited after 18 and never finished the 27 first day event.Me and my buddy laughed about this for years after.You gotta fight fire with fire with some who look down on others.

 

Private clubs are great. But my true love is municipals

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I still love everyone here.

 

This one just brought back a memory.

No worries I understand where you are coming from and I'm sure you don't need my advice. You are obviously a smart guy. To many times on this forum folks tend to take it to a personal level rather than staying on topic. About 29, 000,000 people in American play golf. There are probably at least that many opinions about the sport/game/activity. I just encourage folks to stay away from stereotyping and personal attacks on others.

 

I've lived in 5 different countries and twice that number of states. There are really good people in every corner of the world. Conversely there are just as many bad folks. I don't believe country clubs or private clubs have cornered the market on jerks. Nor do I believe every muni is only frequented but hard working, honest and humble Americans. My view from the outside looking in at the country clubs may be tainted by the fact that every man wants to be me and every women wants to be with me lol (obviously joking) so I'm always treated like royalty (also not true). Lol.

 

I guess my point is we should all focus on where our feet are, the 12 square feet we directly control.

 

 

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No worries I understand where you are coming from and I'm sure you don't need my advice. You are obviously a smart guy. To many times on this forum folks tend to take it to a personal level rather than staying on topic. About 29, 000,000 people in American play golf. There are probably at least that many opinions about the sport/game/activity. I just encourage folks to stay away from stereotyping and personal attacks on others.

 

I've lived in 5 different countries and twice that number of states. There are really good people in every corner of the world. Conversely there are just as many bad folks. I don't believe country clubs or private clubs have cornered the market on jerks. Nor do I believe every muni is only frequented but hard working, honest and humble Americans. My view from the outside looking in at the country clubs may be tainted by the fact that every man wants to be me and every women wants to be with me lol (obviously joking) so I'm always treated like royalty (also not true). Lol.

 

I guess my point is we should all focus on where our feet are, the 12 square feet we directly control.

 

 

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Spoken like a gentleman. I had a weak moment.

 

I appreciate your point of view and the stories you've shared so far. Have a great rest of the week.

 

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I've been a member at both public and privates throughout my golf career.And even had a few seasons where I kept a membership active at both facilities at the same time.Anyway, enough ramble, one year I was invited to one of the more elite clubs invitationals at the area.And my home course at the time was a old beat up municipal that I just loved and always will.The Invitational was top notch.And on our carts was our name tags along with the name of the course as a visitor we are a member at. I was the only one on the event that had a public course on their name tag. And a old beat up $13 a round track at that.

So, the first day we were paired with the clubs most popular member.He owned several local car dealerships and businesses.And many summer ) winter homes and properties all throughout the country.The whole front nine of the 27 hole first day was this member just passive bragging about his businesses- beautiful model wife and family - and off course all his accomplishments on and off the course.He presented this whole speel on every tee or shot that we had too wait for because of slow play.He had it down too a science.Pictures on his phone and a million stories all about him.Mr perfect. When he asked where I played at and saw my course name tag his reveling in himself increased beyond douche status. It's almost like he saw fresh common folk meat and was going in for the kill

 

I decided too turn the tables on him.So the whole next nine i

Bombarded him with pics of my family - home - and beat up muni that I play daily.Then the real breaking point was when I told him I mow my own grass and showed him pics of my garden and handy work . He completely turned his demeanor into avoiding me at all costs. And at one point even told his partner to inform our group that he is here just too play golf and not socialize today. The ego maniac never even had enough courage too tell us this directly.He stormed off the course and forfeited after 18 and never finished the 27 first day event.Me and my buddy laughed about this for years after.You gotta fight fire with fire with some who look down on others.

 

Private clubs are great. But my true love is municipals

Haha. That story is great. This guy sounds like a total a$$hat. That was a great way to handle it too. I like the well maintained aspect of the private club but I wouldn't take that over the friends I have made at the muni. Don't get me wrong, there can be jerks there too but it isn't the pretentiousness of some private clubs.
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I should delete my above post. As that was just one UNique experience.All in all , any golf was fun for me.Ive met so many great people and the stories and laughs will be with me forever.The private clubs have stories that they can back up with facts and more financial status.Where the public courses had a few more Wise tales.No biggie, I've had so many great Memories and so so so many bad shots I can cherish

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I should delete my above post. As that was just one UNique experience.All in all , any golf was fun for me.Ive met so many great people and the stories and laughs will be with me forever.The private clubs have stories that they can back up with facts and more financial status.Where the public courses had a few more Wise tales.No biggie, I've had so many great Memories and so so so many bad shots I can cherish

Don't delete it.  I enjoyed reading it, and I think many other golfers will as well.  We all have interesting stories, and being able to read about them is what makes MGS such a great place for all of us.

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I was going to take a picture of the locker room at Bayou but didn't want to stir the pot.

 

I will say the back range today was incredible - me and two eagles flying around for an hour and a half - I then played 2, 3, 8 and 9.

 

That's a benefit - no one cares if you play a few holes so long as you are t disputing anyone's round.

 

It's a great way to end a practice session.

 

 

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I was going to take a picture of the locker room at Bayou but didn't want to stir the pot.

 

I will say the back range today was incredible - me and two eagles flying around for an hour and a half - I then played 2, 3, 8 and 9.

 

That's a benefit - no one cares if you play a few holes so long as you are t disputing anyone's round.

 

It's a great way to end a practice session.

 

 

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I can do that at my muni on certain days and certain times.  For example, my wife and I play every Thursday and Friday after she closes up her business at 5pm.  We can't play Monday - Wednesday because of leagues.  After spending time in the practice area, we usually play the front nine, but can go off #10 if people on on #1, assuming no one is coming off #9.  When we play the front nine, #2 green is near the clubhouse, and we have headed back to #1 if we played the first 2 holes particularly poorly.  The same is true for holes #10 and #11.  We had our two warmup holes, let's begin!

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