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I wonder if this "big data" approach will work for irons some day.   :lol:

C'mon folks, this is version 1.0 software. Do you remember Windows 1.0?

 

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Wasn't all that hot, and people weren't thrilled with it. Microsoft managed to get things worked out (although I'm sure they'd like to forget Windows ME and Windows 8).

 

How about the original version of iOS that didn't allow third party apps? Apple seems to have recovered from it.

 

Speaking of Apple...

 

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It's too tempting to sit there and fiddle with software until it's just absolutely perfect. You'll never release it. Get it out into peoples' hands, and see what happens.

 

I can't wait to see how this gets better.

 

 

 

That's a sexy beast. Keep us posted.

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So I had the Callaway Rogue and the Mizuno GT180 suggested for me. I'll probably head to a store and give those a few swings to see how they feel and what differences they make to my numbers. I don't see myself pulling the trigger on a $500 driver though.

 

 

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Had the Srixon 765 recommended as my top choice. I took a chance on a used club with a 30 day return window to test it out. Don't care about the distance increase, but 14% increase in fairways was worth trying. Club should arrive tomorrow.

 

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So, both in an attempt to become more involved with this site and to supply a little feedback on my TrueGolfFit fitting, I was hoping to use this post a little like a product review. Please, call me out if this is not kosher with the group and I will take the post down.

 

In the meantime, however, here goes. DISCLAIMER: This may sound negative up front, but it comes around toward the end.

 

When I got the email, I was both intrigued and rather excited to give this a try. There is a local fitter here in the DC area I take all my 'work' to (I tinker a lot, but don't have a workshop of my own). I have been entertaining the idea of getting a fitting, but it simply hasn't been in the budget. Having spoken with him about the process and referring a couple friends to him I knew this to be a fairly lengthy and in-depth process. This leads me to my first observation:

 

The questions asked did not inspire confidence in the suggestions it supplied. 

 

Admittedly, I do not recall the exact questions that were asked, but I found them to be rather simplistic/generic. I am well aware I was not going to get a fitting experience like the one I would have gotten in his shop, but I expected something more thorough. The TrueGolfFit process reminded me of the Titleist ball fitting app thing from a while back that would ask a couple simple questions about your game and then spit out a recommendation. The biggest difference here is that there are a LOT more drivers out there than Titleist offers balls.

 

Stemming from this, I was a bit skeptical of the entire process when I saw it was only $7. This seemed way to cheap to get a solid driver "fitting." Though, from a business perspective, it was a great price to get me to try it.

 

Also, I am not so naive to think that a $7 driver fitting with no swings required would send me home with TrackMan data and adjustable weight settings. But this brings me to my second point.

 

There is no explanation of why it recommended the drivers it did.

 

I would have liked to see something more. Maybe a suggested loft or something with a brief description of how it translated my answers into its recommendations. For instance, in my fitting, it recommended a Srixon Z565 driver, saying it would add 19+ yards and be 10% more accurate (photo attached). To what is this data compared? Are these just ideal settings? Also, the day I get one out there 318 is the day...something miraculous happens. (Sorry, blanked on that one)

 

All that said, my intrigue remained. I think I am going to try the Global Golf U Try program and test this Srixon out. I have been a Titleist loyalist for the most part, but I am willing to give it a shot. I appreciate the data that has been collected and has supposedly gone into suggesting this driver for me, so why not?

 

Overall, I am not upset or anything with my fitting. I just want to know why and how it fit me to this driver. And, at $7, I actually feel like I got what I paid for. No frills. No bells. No whistles. And atg the end of the day, I'm tempted to give my recommendation a try. So, I will try to follow up with this post when I get my hands on the Srixon and give it a ride or two. We shall see how well this thing "fit" me for a driver.

 

What are everyone else's thoughts on True Golf Fit? Have you tried it? Have you tried the recommended driver? Did you like the fit?

 

All the best,

Kyle

 

 

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I need to take a moment to follow up on my original post. Not long after posting this yesterday, Adam (GolfSpy_X) called me to discuss. After that conversation, and after tooling around with the True Golf Fit program a bit more, my apprehensions have been assuaged.

 

For his part, he openly discussed the shortcomings of the app, in particular the need to better explain how decisions are reached. But boiling down a TON of numerical data into easily-digestible sentences/explanations is a very labor and time-intensive project that is a whole other beast of burden for the algorithm. As I think about what is involved with this in my head, I completely understand this. I mean, what does having a 107 mph swing speed mean when picking out a club head? Even seasoned fitters might have trouble putting that into words. And since most people are accessing this on a mobile device, this conundrum becomes even trickier, as brevity is highly valued on smaller devices. Bottom line: I'm confident the app did incredible work to come up with MY best recommendation.

 

As he explained the process of what the app does with the data we input and the tomes of data it scours, I was assured the suggestions it was pulling were very accurately based on the swing data I entered, meaning, if I was honest in my entering of the data, the app used MY swing to come up with a recommendation, not a generic sampling of sings similar to mine.

 

As I said, Adam knows there is more to be done. He was really receptive to my feedback,, and I am sure he would welcome yours as well. 

 

At the end of the day, and I think Adam would agree, there is nothing like actually getting out and trying a club. Personally, I will sacrifice a couple yards in distance to ensure that I am comfortable and at ease over a club. That said, I am confident in the numbers and the suggestion TGF gave me and I am looking forward to giving my recommendation a whirl.

 

Adam, thanks again for calling. 

 

Everyone else, if you are looking for the right driver for you, give TGF a try.

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I tried it knowing you can not get an actual fitting from an online tool. I liked it so much I did it two more times trying to bracket my actual swing with info on either side of it. 

Is this thing going to give you the same result that you would get from a half day at one of the 100 Top Fitters? No...but then it only costs $7.

Does it take into account shaft flex? No...but it costs $7.

I see this as an excellent tool to narrow down some really great choices before I go git fit or try some on my own. It would also be a heck of a lot better than going to the store and picking brand X because I like the color.

It's a tool...not the end-all-be-all.

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I just tried it and....G400! Weird... ;) It didn't specify anything other than the basic G400 like the Max, LST or the SFT I got fitted to, but it pretty much validates my choice. Said I should carry 280, so I must have guessed wrong on swing speed since I only truly can whack it 240 in my "good" shots. I didn't see where (if anywhere) I could go back in and tweak my profile, so it looks as if I'd have to buy a new fitting. Maybe I'll play a bit with my loft adjustment and see if I can get more out of it like this guy...

 

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TrueGolffit works just hit the Z765 322 yards downwind longest drive of my life thanks MGS

 

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Ball don't lie!

 

That's some serious distance!

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This fitting definitely has me curious. Currently hitting a 2017 M2, 10.5. The site spit out the 917 D3, 9.5. Guess I need to hit these two together.

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Alright so I didn't play well but wow this driver...Srixon Z765 is amazing. When I swing smooth, it really pounds the ball. I never would have thought to use it if not for TrueGolfFit website. 
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So I am just sitting here after my round and I am just thinking wow. I think the TrueGolfFit algorithm is amazing. Take this in to consideration if you are on the fence about whether to use or not. It suggested a driver that I would never hit. I mean if I went into Dick's or PGA Superstore...I would never pick the Srixon Z765 to try. I just wouldn't...its nothing personal I just wouldn't do it. It probably has to do with tour presence or marketing I mean I never hear about it. I heard about Srixon drivers only on MGS Most wanted testing. I tried it and wow. I don't have a high swing speed ok let's get that straight. I tried it on the range before my round and I was launching it a tad bit too low. So I dialed it up a degree and then was hitting some great drives. I do lose it to the right when I get quick in transition but I can fix that with more range time. Do you know how great it felt to smash a drive with perfect trajectory that ended up at 322 yards in length? (according to 18 birdies) I felt like a freaking rock star pga tour pro...I even whipped out my phone and immediately posted in the thread. This dang TrueGolfFit is freaking magic. Ok I don't know which MGS staffer developed this or thought of this (looking at you Adam and Tony) but I could hug you right now and I wouldn't feel the slightest bit weird about it. You guys are truly on to something that could change every single golfer's lives. Keep up the great work. This is revolutionary!!!!!

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So I had the Callaway Rogue and the Mizuno GT180 suggested for me. I'll probably head to a store and give those a few swings to see how they feel and what differences they make to my numbers. I don't see myself pulling the trigger on a $500 driver though.

 

 

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Tried out the Callaway Rogue at Golf Galaxy last night. TrueGolfFit told me I would be 272yds. I maxed out at 281 according to the launch monitor. Great accuracy IMO of what I would be able to hit etc. I can't justify $500 for a driver. But nicely done with your site. Can't wait to see how it expands going forward.

 

 

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X - I would recommend that you have someone take a look at the site in Safari on a Mac. It's not rendering the way you'd like.

 

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Works just fine in Chrome for Mac, however.

 

Come on Looper, My fellow open source IT brethren, you should know better than to use Safari. tsk tsk. Or you were being a real gentleman and casually QA'ing the site in which case, I applaud you. ; )

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So I just did the fitting based on complete guesses. I know my handicap is about right, I know my swing speed range is about right as well. The problem areas I have are angle of attack and I will say I don't like not being able to go back and change a variable to see how the results change. For example, If I guess when I get fitted and I decide I want to go get more accurate numbers and come back, I have to pay another 7 dollars to find out? That seems odd to me and reduces the value a good bit. If I had known I could not change it after the fact, I likely wouldn't have done it.

 

Regardless the results are somewhat interesting. I did not expect to see the GT 180 in there. 

 

Also maybe there is a way I can go back and change it and I'm not seeing it...? 

 

 

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