Rgoonen Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Hello everyone! I played yesterday at a local country club of mine after about a month of not being able to play. I would have done pretty well if I didn't screw up with my putting around the greens and was wondering if anybody had any tips on how to keep the ball from skipping on the greens. I shot 78 and I think I can easily knock off about 5-6 strokes with better roll. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Honestly, I'm not familiar with ball skipping. Are the greens wet? I understand that a ball might skid a tiny bit when struck but I think that's more to do with how you strike it. Better let one of our experts weigh-in on this. That's not me. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Hello everyone! I played yesterday at a local country club of mine after about a month of not being able to play. I would have done pretty well if I didn't screw up with my putting around the greens and was wondering if anybody had any tips on how to keep the ball from skipping on the greens. I shot 78 and I think I can easily knock off about 5-6 strokes with better roll. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy My guess is you are striking the ball with a negative angle of attack. I would focus on hitting it on the upswing. One way to do this is trying to hit it just a little thin to practice hitting it on the upswing and then going back to a normal strike. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteddyGolf Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Might be the loft of your putter as well. If you put your phone on video slo-mo a recording might help you to better understand what might be happening. Better yet if you post that same video on here you'll probably receive some pretty good feedback. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Miura MB 502 Irons ping G400 Driver Cobra F7 3 wood Mizuno putter Mizuno Wedges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Might be the loft of your putter as well. If you put your phone on video slo-mo a recording might help you to better understand what might be happening. Better yet if you post that same video on here you'll probably receive some pretty good feedback. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy An alternative would be to use the Ping iPhone app. While not a visual recording it does capture: closing angle, impact angle, tempo , lie angle, and shaft lean Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseclelland Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 You're most likely either delofting the club too much or have the ball to far back in your stance. Hard to tell for sure without video. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Callaway 815 DBD Irons: New Ben Hogan Ft. Worth 15's with KBS C-Taper Stiff Flex Shafts 21,25,29,33,37,41,45 Wedges: Ben Hogan TK with KBS Tour V Stiff Flex Shafts 52,56,60 Putter: Scotty Cameron Golo 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Sounds like a putter fitting is needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Sounds like a putter fitting is needed! That was my thought as well. Hard to say; could be a number of things. However, it's difficult to understand how a 4 cap could not tell what's happening with his putting stroke. Also, gaining 5-6 shots on a 78 with the putter seems improbable after a month layoff. I think more information is needed. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Are you using a new putter? Or same one you've used for years? Seems odd you're just now experiencing the problem, given all other things are the same? New stance? New ball? What has changed since one month and one week ago? TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Sounds like a putting intervention is required here....... Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txgolfjunkie Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 My guess is too much of a forward press/de-lofting the putter. I went through a putter 'fitting' which was really just analyzing my stroke on the GC Quad and it showed at impact that my effective putter loft was around 1.2* and a putter with a loft of 4.5* was needed to correct it. However, how much a ball skids on the green determines how much break the ball will take on the putt. Having a consistent skidding distance is key for a consistent roll out on a putter. If the ball skids for the first 14" and then starts to roll, the ball will go on a straighter line than a putter that produces a skid of only 10". Make sense? If the ball is getting airborne just after impact while it skids, you might want to check your angle of attack. Cobra Connect 5 Competitor - Team Chad King Radspeed 10.5* w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 60 6.5 tipped 1/2" - Peacoat/Red King Radspeed Big Tour 3 Wood w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 70 6.5 Tipped 1/2" King Radspeed Tour 5 Wood w/ Motore X F1 70 X Flex King Utility 4 21* w/ Tensei Pro White 100 X Flex King Tour MIM Copper Irons 5-G w/ AMT White X100 Onyx King MIM Black Wedges 55* & 60* w/ AMT White X100 Onyx Spider SR Pro V1x Left Dash Lefty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PING Apologist #9 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 @GB13 may be onto something here. Check out these videos; In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rgoonen Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 That was my thought as well. Hard to say; could be a number of things. However, it's difficult to understand how a 4 cap could not tell what's happening with his putting stroke. Also, gaining 5-6 shots on a 78 with the putter seems improbable after a month layoff. I think more information is needed.I've started using a new putter and a new style of putter. I know how to fix a lot of things by myself but I'm just asking if anybody had any advice for top rotation. Putting isn't my forte, iron play is. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhartmann34 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I had that issue at the end of last year. Only figured it out because I played when there was dew on the greens and you could see the areas it was getting airborne, mostly the first half of each putt.. A fitting at Club Champion showed that I needed to take 3.7 degrees of loft off of my putter for the correct roll. It's been unbelievably good since then. Much better than trying to change an already ingrained putting stroke. Hello everyone! I played yesterday at a local country club of mine after about a month of not being able to play. I would have done pretty well if I didn't screw up with my putting around the greens and was wondering if anybody had any tips on how to keep the ball from skipping on the greens. I shot 78 and I think I can easily knock off about 5-6 strokes with better roll. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk Driver: G400 (8*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Fairway: G400 (14.5*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Irons: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft AP3 (4/5) and AP2 (6-PW) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Putter: Pro Platinum Newport 2 Midslant Handicap: 3 Location: Illinois...until i can get my wife to move to a warmer climate Right Handed: Although sometimes I wonder if left handed would suit me better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rgoonen Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Are you using a new putter? Or same one you've used for years? Seems odd you're just now experiencing the problem, given all other things are the same? New stance? New ball? What has changed since one month and one week ago? I normally use a Taylormade Spider but have recently switched to a Bettinardi QB#6 and I have also changed my grip from a Pistol GT 2.0 to a 3.0. With my Spider I naturally had a decent roll but I wasn't feeling the putter like I used to so I changed. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Thanks Ping, for the excellent videos. BTW, did you notice that the instructor in the video insert was wearing a UK sweater? Go Big Blue! Also noticed they used an EVNRoll mallet putter.....Love my ER6. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhammer Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I used to have difficulty with the ball skidding/skipping at impact until I saw a video by Michael Breed. It really helped me get the ball rolling much faster and you get a much longer roll out through inertia. The first time you witness the ball keep rolling long after it should have stopped is when you know you've got it. There are only 2 things you need to do to reduce the skipping. Hit the ball on the down swing, not on the upswing Your impact on the ball should be just above the equator/mid-point of the ball Driver: Speed Zone 9* HZRDUS Smoke Yellow Shaft 3 Wood: King Speedzone 13.5* HZRDUS Smoke Black Shaft 2 & 3 Hybrids: Speedzone Recoil 480 ESX Shaft Irons: Speedzone 5-GW Recoil 460 ESX Shafts Wedges: PM Grind 54* & 58* Putter: Dual Force Rossi II Ball: Whatever I find in the woods HCP:18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I used to have difficulty with the ball skidding/skipping at impact until I saw a video by Michael Breed. It really helped me get the ball rolling much faster and you get a much longer roll out through inertia. The first time you witness the ball keep rolling long after it should have stopped is when you know you've got it. There are only 2 things you need to do to reduce the skipping. Hit the ball on the down swing, not on the upswing Your impact on the ball should be just above the equator/mid-point of the ball Uhhhhh..... TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I used to have difficulty with the ball skidding/skipping at impact until I saw a video by Michael Breed. It really helped me get the ball rolling much faster and you get a much longer roll out through inertia. The first time you witness the ball keep rolling long after it should have stopped is when you know you've got it. There are only 2 things you need to do to reduce the skipping. Hit the ball on the down swing, not on the upswing Your impact on the ball should be just above the equator/mid-point of the ball Something doesn't seem right here. Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I used to have difficulty with the ball skidding/skipping at impact until I saw a video by Michael Breed. It really helped me get the ball rolling much faster and you get a much longer roll out through inertia. The first time you witness the ball keep rolling long after it should have stopped is when you know you've got it. There are only 2 things you need to do to reduce the skipping. Hit the ball on the down swing, not on the upswing Your impact on the ball should be just above the equator/mid-point of the ball Mmm, I don't think so, at least not for most people, if it works for you, great, but that is not what I would recommend to anyone else. Hitting on the downswing drastically increases pop up tendency. It hits the ball into the ground, and based on Newton's third law of motion, if there is a force pushing the ball down, the opposite force will push the ball up. Impact just above the equator will help you to hit on the upswing and does help roll a little bit. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeekendGolfChef Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 There are some great videos on YouTube. I had an issue with my putting too and it helped knock of an average of 3-4 putts per round. I'm a 1.8 putt average now. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhammer Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Mmm, I don't think so, at least not for most people, if it works for you, great, but that is not what I would recommend to anyone else. Hitting on the downswing drastically increases pop up tendency. It hits the ball into the ground, and based on Newton's third law of motion, if there is a force pushing the ball down, the opposite force will push the ball up. Impact just above the equator will help you to hit on the upswing and does help roll a little bit. Actually this process will work for most golfers, unfortunately my explanation of it stinks. Here's a video of MB showing how it works. I couldn't find the original video I saw where his discusses the downward blow, but you can see how you would need that type of stroke to make this type of contact. Driver: Speed Zone 9* HZRDUS Smoke Yellow Shaft 3 Wood: King Speedzone 13.5* HZRDUS Smoke Black Shaft 2 & 3 Hybrids: Speedzone Recoil 480 ESX Shaft Irons: Speedzone 5-GW Recoil 460 ESX Shafts Wedges: PM Grind 54* & 58* Putter: Dual Force Rossi II Ball: Whatever I find in the woods HCP:18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumdog Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I normally use a Taylormade Spider but have recently switched to a Bettinardi QB#6 and I have also changed my grip from a Pistol GT 2.0 to a 3.0. With my Spider I naturally had a decent roll but I wasn't feeling the putter like I used to so I changed. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I have used my Taylormade Ghost Spider for 7 years and seriously doubt it will ever leave my bag. I have tried many many putters over the years to see if one could push the spider out, but no way, nothing comes close. Do yourself a favor and go back to the Spider !! Driver: Callaway GBB Epic 9.0* 3-Wd: Taylormade M1-3HL Hybrid: Taylormade Superfast 2.0 - 18* Irons: Callaway Apex CF-19 5-PW Wedges: Cleveland 50, 56, 58 Putter: Taylormade Ghost Spider Ball : Callaway Chrome Soft Yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PING Apologist #9 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Thanks Ping, for the excellent videos. BTW, did you notice that the instructor in the video insert was wearing a UK sweater? Go Big Blue! Also noticed they used an EVNRoll mallet putter.....Love my ER6. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Yeah, and in several vids, he also uses Snell balls! In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooremikea Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I struggled with this last year and thought I was hitting too down on the ball without enough loft on the putter. It was exactly the opposite the ball was too far forward with too much loft. In order to get a better roll it "felt" like I was hitting slightly down on the ball but that feel just helped me not hit up on the ball so much. Driver - Ping G410 Plus 10.5 - Ping Tour 65 Stiff 4 Wood - Callaway Rogue - Project X Evenflow blue 6.0 Hybrids - Titleist 818 H2 - 3(c-1) and 4(c-4) - Tensei CK Blue 70 stiff Irons - Callaway Apex CF 16 5-AW - True Temper XP 95 Steel Stiff Wedges - Ping Glide 54 SS, 58 TS Putter - Edel e1 Torque balanced Indianapolis 5.5 Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonks Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 One of the things that's helped with my putting is I've adapted Rickie Fowler's putting style. I line up the ball and then hover the putter slightly over the green. It allows me to get a smooth stroke on the ball and has caused my putts to roll much smoother. It also allows me to get a better feel for my swing tempo on my putts. Sent from my VS995 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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