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I agree. with the way Phil is playing and how Tiger's game is coming around,it'll be over at the 10th or 11th hole.

Asides from that,I wouldn't waste my money.

I'm going to correct myself here. This is going to be staged so that:

a. it will last a full round,and

b. actually make it look like a battle instead of it being a good 'ol fashion ass whoopin.

 

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Lost me at PPV

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I can think of 1,999 things I'd rather spend 19.99 on ... 

I bet it will be AS coming down 18. I wouldn't be too surprised if the first 17 holes were scripted (or as scripted as can be with golf) and it all comes down to the last. That said I still won't be watching.

 

agreed. it will be scripted.

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PPV in golf goes against the norm, which is free over the air on NBC or CBS, or on cable on the Golf Channel.  Because this is not a normal event they are trying something totally new, and as you are seeing, there is resistance from the fan base, because we have a certain expectation of how we are able to view the sport, but this is completely different from the norm.

 

Boxing can get $100 for PPV because they'v

e been doing it for decades. 

Good point.

I think this is the answer.

 

 

 

 

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I don't know how accurate this is, so don't quote me, but I heard yesterday that the PPV cost is $25.  Ouch!  It certainly won't be something that will be watched for a few holes, then change the channel.

 

With the match being played at Shadow Creek, a small easily walked course, the event could only take 3-3.5 hours.  What will they fill the time with between shots?  Obviously commercials, but everyone will be mic'd up; Tiger, Phil, caddies, (hopefully not the cups!).  I think there will be interviews between shots and after each hole.  

 

There should be plenty of side betting going on with payment made on the spot.  

"Hey Phil!  $1000 bucks you miss that putt."  

"Hey Tiger, I bet you slice it into the woods, a $100 bucks."  (Only it won't be $100).

 

While this might be entertaining, I think PPV for golf is loser.  However, this match could lead to several more matches.  Maybe Tiger and Phil playing with partners.  Remember Tiger and Annika playing Sergio and Karrie Webb?  There could also be other pros playing matches.  How about DJ and Brooks?  Or JT and JS?  It could be interesting, but only if it's free to the public will it work.  PPV will certainly not "grow the game".

 

EDIT:  I forgot to mention that this is to be aired at 6pm EDT.  That means the last few holes will have to be lighted.  

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Unfortunately, like with the rising price of drivers, wedges, irons etc, the only way to stop the gouging is to not participate. This is almost impossible with clubs, which is why prices keep going up, however with something like this it is much easier to do. Nifty said that golf is a niche sport like boxing, and this is mostly true, with one exception, TIGER WOODS. He brings casual sports fans to the game. He has, for good or bad, brought more people to the game than anyone/anything in history. The rub of this is, the hardcore golf fan is losing, and the actual growth of the game is hindered by people who only see dollar bills. Darren Rovell did a poll on twitter that had 17k+ responses. Over 20% said they would pay at/or more than $20 for this event. Extrapolated out that is a huge number of viewers and exactly why they went PPV. However as evidenced by this thread that doesn't apply here. I like the entertainment idea of these matches moving forward, however I hope the PPV numbers bomb so future events are broadcast to everyone. 

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A series of head to head matches on regular TV would be really enjoyable to watch.

Whether or not it would generate sufficient revenue to sustain itself is the issue.

Also, the Tour itself has too long a season for players to be available.

 

Since I enjoy matches much more than I do tournaments, I wish more favorable circumstances existed for a series like that.,

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I don't know how accurate this is, so don't quote me, but I heard yesterday that the PPV cost is $25. Ouch! It certainly won't be something that will be watched for a few holes, then change the channel.

 

With the match being played at Shadow Creek, a small easily walked course, the event could only take 3-3.5 hours. What will they fill the time with between shots? Obviously commercials, but everyone will be mic'd up; Tiger, Phil, caddies, (hopefully not the cups!). I think there will be interviews between shots and after each hole.

 

There should be plenty of side betting going on with payment made on the spot.

"Hey Phil! $1000 bucks you miss that putt."

"Hey Tiger, I bet you slice it into the woods, a $100 bucks." (Only it won't be $100).

 

While this might be entertaining, I think PPV for golf is loser. However, this match could lead to several more matches. Maybe Tiger and Phil playing with partners. Remember Tiger and Annika playing Sergio and Karrie Webb? There could also be other pros playing matches. How about DJ and Brooks? Or JT and JS? It could be interesting, but only if it's free to the public will it work. PPV will certainly not "grow the game".

 

EDIT: I forgot to mention that this is to be aired at 6pm EDT. That means the last few holes will have to be lighted.

Well, I am honestly surprised it is only $25. I would have expected north of $50. But still, they only seem to hitting the market of, have $25 to spend on watching a round of golf. Most people would rather play a round of golf than watch one.

The other thing is while Tiger brings in casual fans, no casual fan will pay to watch. Casual fans are your, "eh, if it's on the TV on Sunday and Tiger is leading, I watch the last few holes." The only people who would pay are die hard golf fans, and in that they cast away 95% of their possible audience.

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I think the PPV is a bad idea.

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I don't know how accurate this is, so don't quote me, but I heard yesterday that the PPV cost is $25.  Ouch!  It certainly won't be something that will be watched for a few holes, then change the channel.

 

With the match being played at Shadow Creek, a small easily walked course, the event could only take 3-3.5 hours.  What will they fill the time with between shots?  Obviously commercials, but everyone will be mic'd up; Tiger, Phil, caddies, (hopefully not the cups!).  I think there will be interviews between shots and after each hole.  

 

There should be plenty of side betting going on with payment made on the spot.  

"Hey Phil!  $1000 bucks you miss that putt."  

"Hey Tiger, I bet you slice it into the woods, a $100 bucks."  (Only it won't be $100).

 

While this might be entertaining, I think PPV for golf is loser.  However, this match could lead to several more matches.  Maybe Tiger and Phil playing with partners.  Remember Tiger and Annika playing Sergio and Karrie Webb?  There could also be other pros playing matches.  How about DJ and Brooks?  Or JT and JS?  It could be interesting, but only if it's free to the public will it work.  PPV will certainly not "grow the game".

 

EDIT:  I forgot to mention that this is to be aired at 6pm EDT.  That means the last few holes will have to be lighted.  

I am also somewhat surprised that the PPV cost is only $25, I expected it to be higher.    If I am making a PPV payment, I'm not sure that I would want to see a lot of commercials.   Although they would provide an opportunity to get a beer out of the fridge.  If everyone is miked, some editing might be needed for any reruns.  Perhaps, any reruns are where the commercials enter the picture.  

 

As far as side bets:

Hey Tiger, a $1,000 says that you can't pick up the cart girl.

Hey Phil, you kidding, let's make it $10,000.

 

If the match ends before reaching 18, they could trade clubs, Phil play right handed and Tiger left handed on a hole, at least, it would be something different.   Perhaps a side bet on that hole.

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Guess we'll see how this works out for the producers ...

 

As an aside, if you get the Golf Channel on your TV, it means you're paying for golf. If you have cable or satellite TV you are paying to watch the network coverage as well. Granted it's not costing you $25 for each round of golf you watch, but neither is PPV if you get a group together :)

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It's not even the price of admission, it's the need for the two of them to make money from it.

 

If it was just the two of them deciding to finally have showdown match after all these years, with any and all bets on the table for all of us to witness, I would probably watch........... who am I kidding, I would watch!

 

The PPV sticks in my craw because it isn't necessary for either one of them...... I doubt either will have to skip a meal if this doesn't go PPV.

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I'm thinking after this weeks showing (or no showing) by these two, the ratings and PPV price will take a dip.

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There is a LOT of time to kill between shots... Not sure I could endure the commentators filling the air time.
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Based on Ryder Cup play they have changed the format to first one to 90 wins.

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I'm thinking after this weeks showing (or no showing) by these two, the ratings and PPV price will take a dip.

I doubt the price will come down. The viewership probably wasn't going to be high anyway. I just think this was a good idea, poorly executed. 

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Great!!  The two Americans with the most losses in Ryder Cup history battling it out to see who is the biggest loser.

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