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19 hours ago, chisag said:



... LOL if you lived in Chicago you would have a mustache with aviator sun glasses and be comparing everyone to the '85 "Da Bearz". I already said Brady is the best at the moment. Mahomes does not have a short sleeved hoodie coach or a defense like Brady. But Andy Reid ain;t an idiot either so the future looks bright for KC fans. I would not trade Mack for any player in the NFL ... other than Mahomes. 

you do realize that the Patriots won the SB last year, right?  I mean I'm not holding on to the "old glory days" like a lot of the Bears fans.

Good take on Russell Wilson here ... best franchise QB in the league?  
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nfl/remember-russell-wilson-and-the-seahawks-theyre-back-and-he-might-be-better/2019/10/04/4a23e502-e692-11e9-a331-2df12d56a80b_story.html

BTW - if you've seen Reid's late game clock management you might question your opinion on whether he's an idiot.
 

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4 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

you do realize that the Patriots won the SB last year, right?  I mean I'm not holding on to the "old glory days" like a lot of the Bears fans.

Good take on Russell Wilson here ... best franchise QB in the league?  
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nfl/remember-russell-wilson-and-the-seahawks-theyre-back-and-he-might-be-better/2019/10/04/4a23e502-e692-11e9-a331-2df12d56a80b_story.html

BTW - if you've seen Reid's late game clock management you might question your opinion on whether he's an idiot.
 

 

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Seahawks played a great game last night, it is very clear the Legion of Boom is a thing of the past. But like I said yesterday the only area that really concerns me is the secondary. On display last night was one of the best passers in the league. DangeRuss did things very few can do, both from the pocket and improvising. As well as possibly the Best line backing trio in the NFL, who played amazing also..

Yes, Patrick Mahomes is great. Doing things very few can do. But this is year 2 ( as a starter) , not year 8, or 10, or 14, or 18.. So let's not Anoint him just quite yet. Let's see how he holds up over the long haul..

 

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4 minutes ago, Reesedw said:

Seahawks played a great game last night, it is very clear the Legion of Boom is a thing of the past. But like I said yesterday the only area that really concerns me is the secondary. On display last night was one of the best passers in the league. DangeRuss did things very few can do, both from the pocket and improvising. As well as possibly the Best line backing trio in the NFL, who played amazing also..

Yes, Patrick Mahomes is great. Doing things very few can do. But this is year 2 ( as a starter) , not year 8, or 10, or 14, or 18.. So let's not Anoint him just quite yet. Let's see how he holds up over the long haul..

 

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Great and exciting game (for once) on a Thursday night!
Carson was running like a man possessed.  Can't believe that 3rd down play where they tried to get tricky and used an option and pitched it to Lockett.  Should have just given it to CC and let him bulldoze ahead...but Carroll has a history of trying to get "tricky" when you should just run the ball (SB, anyone?).

The 'hawks better learn how to cover TE though.... once teams find a weakness they attack it relentlessly.

Also - hate to say it - but they got pretty lucky.... Zuerlein makes that kick 8.5 times out of 10.

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21 minutes ago, Reesedw said:

Yes, Patrick Mahomes is great. Doing things very few can do. But this is year 2 ( as a starter) , not year 8, or 10, or 14, or 18.. So let's not Anoint him just quite yet. Let's see how he holds up over the long haul..

 

... Not sure why you guys don't recognize Mahomes has ALREADY done things not a "very few" but only Manning and Brady have accomplished, both HOF QB's and arguably the best best to play the position. And I would make the opposite argument, it was his first year so he didn't need 8 or 10 or more to accomplish something only 2 QBs in the history of the NFL have been able to do. 

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Mahomes is currently the best QB in the league. That shouldn't be up for debate.

Brady is the best QB to play in the history of the game. That also shouldn't be up for debate.

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6 minutes ago, FrogginBullfish said:

Mahomes is currently the best QB in the league. That shouldn't be up for debate.

Brady is the best QB to play in the history of the game. That also shouldn't be up for debate.

 

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... Not sure why you guys don't recognize Mahomes has ALREADY done things not a "very few" but only Manning and Brady have accomplished, both HOF QB's and arguably the best best to play the position. And I would make the opposite argument, it was his first year so he didn't need 8 or 10 or more to accomplish something only 2 QBs in the history of the NFL have been able to do. 

I agree 100%, All I am saying is he is in year 2 lets not make him a hall of famer yet. Cam Newton also did things most cannot do and his inability to stay healthy might be his downfall. All I am saying is let's see what happens in the next 3-5 years. A lot can happen, and often does in the NFL.

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27 minutes ago, Reesedw said:

I agree 100%, All I am saying is he is in year 2 lets not make him a hall of famer yet. Cam Newton also did things most cannot do and his inability to stay healthy might be his downfall. All I am saying is let's see what happens in the next 3-5 years. A lot can happen, and often does in the NFL.


... I agree with that. But just keep in mind I am in Chicago, a quarterback starved city and have had to watch Favre and Rodgers destroy the Bears for over 20 years while 50 starting QB's marched thru the line ups. Cutler was the only legit NFL passer the Bears in all that time and I had such high hopes for him having followed his career from Vandy to Denver. But of course he was not a leader which is essential in the NFL. Trubisky shows promise but knowing the Bears could have had Mahomes will always sting. But no hard feelings and I love watching him play more than any other QB in my lifetime. 

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6 hours ago, Reesedw said:

Seahawks played a great game last night, it is very clear the Legion of Boom is a thing of the past. But like I said yesterday the only area that really concerns me is the secondary. On display last night was one of the best passers in the league. DangeRuss did things very few can do, both from the pocket and improvising. As well as possibly the Best line backing trio in the NFL, who played amazing also..

Yes, Patrick Mahomes is great. Doing things very few can do. But this is year 2 ( as a starter) , not year 8, or 10, or 14, or 18.. So let's not Anoint him just quite yet. Let's see how he holds up over the long haul..

 

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... I certainly remember what it was like for the Bears going through a couple seasons with Trestman HC and Tucker DC that gave up record numbers on defense. The question was not losing, it was by how much. But it never got as bad as it is for Washington fans. Saw this yesterday and while I feel for the fans, I had to laugh:
 

 

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Who is the upset special today?

I think the Giants beat up on Minnesota.


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Who is the upset special today?

I think the Giants beat up on Minnesota.


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Deshaun Watson did the coverage breakdown thing again.

https://deadspin.com/deshaun-watson-did-the-cool-thing-again-1838828470

Also, can the #BillsMafia stop with the dangerous stunts already.

https://deadspin.com/bills-fan-remains-alarmingly-still-after-pregame-stunt-1838828616

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I have a theory: Mahomes is a robot programmed by a far superior species to humiliate all NFL defenses. Thoughts? 

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4 minutes ago, GB13 said:

I have a theory: Mahomes is a robot programmed by a far superior species to humiliate all NFL defenses. Thoughts? 

Ancient astronauts theorists say YES!  🤣

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I have a theory: Mahomes is a robot programmed by a far superior species to humiliate all NFL defenses. Thoughts? 
Your theory is sound.

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Ancient astronauts theorists say YES!  🤣

You beat me too this
Definitely Ancient Alien


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2 hours ago, Kenny B said:

Ancient astronauts theorists say YES!  🤣

My theory was more sound before the ankle injury... but I’m gonna stick with it and say that, it’s part of the plan as to not arouse suspicion.

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Gruden was summoned to Redskins Park for a 5 a.m. meeting Monday by owner Daniel Snyder and team president Bruce Allen, who informed him of the decision. Gruden thanked them for the opportunity and left. https://wapo.st/2OqucVZ 

To me, the most discouraging part of this is that Bruce Allen will be conducting the press conference this afternoon addressing the firing.   Unless he announces he's firing himself 😁

It's really a shame what was once one of the premier franchises in the NFL has become, they are nothing but a league laughing stock under Dan Snyder.  

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Gruden was probably never happier for a 5am meeting in his life. 

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Not sure it's the coach that's the problem, but what do you do when you have an owner that has no clue ???

 

Gruden becomes the fifth coach fired by Snyder, joining a group that includes Norv Turner, Marty Schottenheimer, Jim Zorn and Mike Shanahan. Steve Spurrier and Joe Gibbs resigned. Spurrier did so after two years, but it was widely speculated that he would have been fired had he not resigned; Gibbs retired after four seasons. Schottenheimer was fired after going 8-8 in his only season in Washington.

No coach has finished with a winning record under Snyder, who bought the team shortly before the 1999 season. Under Snyder, the Redskins have finished first in the NFC East three times, including in 2015 with Gruden. They have finished last eight times and third seven times. The Redskins are on pace for their ninth season with at least 10 losses during Snyder's tenure.

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Yea, The skins are a total barn fire right now...

the 49ers are either really good, or Cleveland really stinks- probably somewhere in the middle 

panthers better without Cam? Seems that way right now eh?

Seahawks / Rams game was pretty exciting.

 

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Not sure it's the coach that's the problem, but what do you do when you have an owner that has no clue ???

 

Gruden becomes the fifth coach fired by Snyder, joining a group that includes Norv Turner, Marty Schottenheimer, Jim Zorn and Mike Shanahan. Steve Spurrier and Joe Gibbs resigned. Spurrier did so after two years, but it was widely speculated that he would have been fired had he not resigned; Gibbs retired after four seasons. Schottenheimer was fired after going 8-8 in his only season in Washington.

No coach has finished with a winning record under Snyder, who bought the team shortly before the 1999 season. Under Snyder, the Redskins have finished first in the NFC East three times, including in 2015 with Gruden. They have finished last eight times and third seven times. The Redskins are on pace for their ninth season with at least 10 losses during Snyder's tenure.

Gruden wasn't isn't' the biggest problem with this team.  Did he have his shortcomings, absolutely.   But he's the obvious and easy scapegoat.  As long as Snyder own the team, they will never have a professionally run and efficient functioning football operations set up. 

For the first time in 27 years, I'm seriously contemplating finding something else to do on Sunday's at 1:00 that won't lead to such disappointment and frustration.  I sat and watched the game against NE actually emotionless, and actually cheering for NE at points.  I won't things to get to absolute Rock Bottom,  not that I anticipate it will change anything at the top, but I want Snyder to see what it looks like when an entire city turns against you. 

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It's so nice that the Capitals and Nationals are winning and being successful.   And they have bonded with each other, several Caps were at the Game 4 on Monday night and several Nats are frequently seen at Caps games and practices.   The city is really behind both teams 100% right now and the Redskins and Wizards are barely on the radar as far as fan support. 

 

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On 10/8/2019 at 7:04 AM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Gruden wasn't isn't' the biggest problem with this team.  Did he have his shortcomings, absolutely.   But he's the obvious and easy scapegoat.  As long as Snyder own the team, they will never have a professionally run and efficient functioning football operations set up. 

For the first time in 27 years, I'm seriously contemplating finding something else to do on Sunday's at 1:00 that won't lead to such disappointment and frustration.  I sat and watched the game against NE actually emotionless, and actually cheering for NE at points.  I won't things to get to absolute Rock Bottom,  not that I anticipate it will change anything at the top, but I want Snyder to see what it looks like when an entire city turns against you. 

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Lol @ the Redskins. I remember when I lived in NoVA and all the Redskins fans. I actually pity them to some extent.

But as someone who grew up in the Orange Bowl and watched Dan Marino torch defenses week in and week out I just laugh at the comedy of a dumpster fire that the Dolphins franchise has become. Ross thinks he can tank this season and stockpile draft picks in order to build for the future. Lol. This is the same team that has used previous overall #1 picks to take a running back (Ronnie Brown) and a OT (Jake Long). The media is pimping the “Tank for Tua” meme, and if Miami is as predictable as they’ve always been they’ll draft him when they could have had Jalen Hurts or another QB that might actually win you something.

Miami is just like the Jets now. No matter how many coaches and GMs you go through, your expectations will always surpass reality. And at the end of the year we’ll still be left with Bill Belichick holding the Lombardi trophy again.

I’d laugh if it honestly wasn’t so pathetically predictable.

I watch a quarter and a half of the Pats/Giants game and thought to myself, “it’s 14-0 and Brady actually sucks tonight.” Same story different season.


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