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1 minute ago, bens197 said:

hahaha, cmon, the guy is a solid QB stuck on one of the most poorly coached teams in the league.  

I don't think there is any doubt in his talents. He has been a great team leader and put up massive stats over the years and taken the franchise to new levels. However if you look at the whole roster I can't see them competing for the championship so why continue down this road when you can reset and build a contender for the future.

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Just now, bens197 said:

hahaha, cmon, the guy is a solid QB stuck on one of the most poorly coached teams in the league.  

Hes just so lackluster for me, I swear (sorry @Josh Ross) for about 3 months after the 28-3 debacle our local radio show had Brady's pre gmae huddle speech and Ryan's pre game huddle speech on loop, it was night and day  lol, and while he is still "young" hes aging in the league, not what we need.

I also am skeptical at your Buffalo Bill fan tactics.....Tell you what you can have Newton if we get Ryan and you can trade away Allen? 😀

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1 hour ago, B.Boston said:

That would actually be a pretty cool Monday Night Football game.  Hopefully with someone NOT named Cam Newton under center.  

I have to think Brady returning to Gillette will also be a prime time game.  Pretty sure it's his chance to beat every team in the NFL.  Only think that would make it better is if both teams are coming off a bye and there's two weeks of Bill vs Brady leading up to it.  Something in late NOV would be pretty cool.

I would say keep Cam but beating NE with him under center must have been how you guys felt playing Buffalo during the Jauron years.  Or the Chan Gailey years, or the Mularkey years or, well you get my point...

Mac will be an interesting scenario.  He's used to control freak coach so maybe he'll be decent under BB.

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3 minutes ago, Apolloshowl said:

I don't think there is any doubt in his talents. He has been a great team leader and put up massive stats over the years and taken the franchise to new levels. However if you look at the whole roster I can't see them competing for the championship so why continue down this road when you can reset and build a contender for the future.

Realistically speaking there's no way they win the East with this team.  Hope for a wild card but even then you're competing against a lot of really good teams that are already ready.

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3 minutes ago, Lacassem said:

Hes just so lackluster for me, I swear (sorry @Josh Ross) for about 3 months after the 28-3 debacle our local radio show had Brady's pre gmae huddle speech and Ryan's pre game huddle speech on loop, it was night and day  lol, and while he is still "young" hes aging in the league, not what we need.

I also am skeptical at your Buffalo Bill fan tactics.....Tell you what you can have Newton if we get Ryan and you can trade away Allen? 😀

All I see is hey, do you want to play Pebble today or eat some broken glass?

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  • 4 weeks later...

The Browns have the best team they've had since the mid-'80s. The question will be can all the new parts added on defense stay healthy and congeal quickly into a cohesive unit that can stop the run-first QBs that killed them last year. 

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Been a ride Julio... Thanks for all the memories, but now truly am regretting Atlanta not going full rebuild. Watch out Titans and AJ may have a bit less fantasy value.

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2 hours ago, Apolloshowl said:

Been a ride Julio... Thanks for all the memories, but now truly am regretting Atlanta not going full rebuild. Watch out Titans and AJ may have a bit less fantasy value.

I hear you. At the same time they couldn't really trade him until after June 1. Kyle Pitts will fill the void long term paired with Ridley. Go QB in the next year or two and ATL will have a strong nucleus of skill-position players for the future.

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I was born in Michigan and moved to South Florida when I was fairly young. My parents would drop me off at Dolphins training camp when I was in my teens. I am primarily a Dolphins fan but also still follow and support the Lions.  Excited and hopeful for the Dolphins, still very concerned about the Lions.

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5 hours ago, Headhammer said:

The Browns have the best team they've had since the mid-'80s. The question will be can all the new parts added on defense stay healthy and congeal quickly into a cohesive unit that can stop the run-first QBs that killed them last year. 

But will the offense take a step backwards if OBJ takes the field? Offense looked good last year when he was out.

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17 minutes ago, Hobert said:

I hear you. At the same time they couldn't really trade him until after June 1. Kyle Pitts will fill the void long term paired with Ridley. Go QB in the next year or two and ATL will have a strong nucleus of skill-position players for the future.

I think that is part of it though. Don't get me wrong I am a huge Ridley fan and have been for a long time, but he is turning 27 this year. No not old, but prime years for WR are 27/28. Yes he will still be good after, but can he be as good facing the elite cb's week in and week out? 
Atlanta was/is in a tough spot caught between past and future and I don't envy them, but as I mentioned in a post before I am ready for our next era to begin and I don't see them being that competitive again this year so in my mind it was good time to bite the bullet. Take a QB and start selling off assets to build a team that can truly compete again in 3 or so years. That being said the best of luck to Julio and I'm ready for another 4 win season.

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12 minutes ago, Hobert said:

But will the offense take a step backwards if OBJ takes the field? Offense looked good last year when he was out.

I'm not worried about the offense, we have enough weapons to put points on the board, the problem has been that we can't stop running QBs or hold leads against the really good teams late in the game. If the defense can gel quickly, I believe we can make it to the AFC championship. It's not gonna be easy with our schedule & opening on the road against KC is gonna be a bear!

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Prescott's shoulder is worrying me, the cowboys are playing it as not a big deal, but our back ups are awful, we better keep Phillip Rivers on speed dial. 

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3 hours ago, xOldBenKenobiX said:

Prescott's shoulder is worrying me, the cowboys are playing it as not a big deal, but our back ups are awful, we better keep Phillip Rivers on speed dial. 

I would agree with that…listen I guess to him being interviewed during the HOF game made it even more confusing when Bradshaw said something about the injury being underneath the shoulder instead of a rotator cuff injury.

 

 

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15 hours ago, TBT said:

I would agree with that…listen I guess to him being interviewed during the HOF game made it even more confusing when Bradshaw said something about the injury being underneath the shoulder instead of a rotator cuff injury.

A lot of weird was going on during that game, I'm thinking that is a possibile muscle tear that they are hoping it can heal by resting, regardless I'm holding my breath for the next few weeks. 

Last year before he got hurt the offense was very explosive, but the defense, well there was no defense. 

This year we made great strides on the building blocks of a decent defense, we still have a long way to go with the secondary. 

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I'm guessing the give a sh!t factor is pretty low for all things Denver Broncos on this thread, but as a lifelong die hard, I am getting tired of endlessly refreshing the ProFootballTalk website waiting to see a decision on Bridgewater or Lock as the starting QB.  Personally I'm hoping for Lock, but I have a feeling crusty ol' Fangio is going to go with a more veteran type in Bridgewater.  

Either way, make a damn decision coach...

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Well count me in the camp of I did not see this one coming. I am glad they are going with Mac as I think he is better, but WOW!

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8 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

Well count me in the camp of I did not see this one coming. I am glad they are going with Mac as I think he is better, but WOW!

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I've liked the way the offense looked every time Mac was under center vs Cam.  There was just a sense of urgency that I liked more.  I'm sure there will be growing pains, but I'm happy to see Mac getting the ball from week 1.

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2 minutes ago, B.Boston said:

I've liked the way the offense looked every time Mac was under center vs Cam.  There was just a sense of urgency that I liked more.  I'm sure there will be growing pains, but I'm happy to see Mac getting the ball from week 1.

Totally agree that it looks more dynamic and Jones can just make more throws at this point and yeah it might get rough at times, but at least there is still that unknown and room to grow. Unfortunately Cam is near the end or at the end of his career so it he is what he is right now, he used to be awesome, but he took a beating playing the way he did. Well now I can't wait for week 1 is a bit more interesting.

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1 minute ago, ejgaudette said:

Totally agree that it looks more dynamic and Jones can just make more throws at this point and yeah it might get rough at times, but at least there is still that unknown and room to grow. Unfortunately Cam is near the end or at the end of his career so it he is what he is right now, he used to be awesome, but he took a beating playing the way he did. Well now I can't wait for week 1 is a bit more interesting.

I think you mean week FOUR at 8:20PM on NBC will be a lot more interesting! 😬

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2 minutes ago, B.Boston said:

I think you mean week FOUR at 8:20PM on NBC will be a lot more interesting! 😬

Yeah that is now Brady versus his replacement for sure

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To be honest, I am surprised Belichick put up with Cam for as long as he did.  

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9 minutes ago, bens197 said:

To be honest, I am surprised Belichick put up with Cam for as long as he did.  

It did feel odd for sure given how last year went, it was odd they brought him back they saw what Cam was and again given his age and where he is at physically it was probably going to be the same this year. So it didn't feel like this year would be any different if you brought him back. Now who knows what's coming next.

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2 hours ago, ejgaudette said:

It did feel odd for sure given how last year went, it was odd they brought him back they saw what Cam was and again given his age and where he is at physically it was probably going to be the same this year. So it didn't feel like this year would be any different if you brought him back. Now who knows what's coming next.

Like BB said, they sold the farm to win that last title. 
 

Now it’s rebuild and lose with the old tired vet or the young inexperienced kid. 
 

I like this move for them. Cam wasn’t going to win them a wild card. 

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4 minutes ago, bens197 said:

Like BB said, they sold the farm to win that last title. 
 

Now it’s rebuild and lose with the old tired vet or the young inexperienced kid. 
 

I like this move for them. Cam wasn’t going to win them a wild card. 

Would still say if the drafted a bit better lately then they wouldn't have fallen off so much right now, but yes need to build more through the draft and get things back in order.

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Was a beautiful surprise today having Cam cut. I thought initially and still do that Mac Jones running with the O-line last week voluntarily was a big nail in the coffin for Cam. As Edelman said "hes a football guy", he won BB and everyone on that team with this move.

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On 8/7/2021 at 8:41 PM, xOldBenKenobiX said:

we better keep Phillip Rivers on speed dial. 

I can tell you from experience as a Colt's fan and seeing him last year, he definitely still has a bit left in the tank.  He had an pretty good year to get us through for an 11-5 season, but  keep in mind his arm strength isn't much anymore and we have a top 5 Offensive line along with rookie running back to rush over 1100 yards.  On top of that our defense was top 10 and kept many games manageable and low scoring.

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I can tell you from experience as a Colt's fan and seeing him last year, he definitely still has a bit left in the tank.  He had an pretty good year to get us through for an 11-5 season, but  keep in mind his arm strength isn't much anymore and had we  a top 5 Offensive line along with rookie running back to rush over 1100 yards.  On top of that our defense was top 10 and kept many games manageable and low scoring.

The Cowboys made the decision to keep Cooper Rush as the current back up, I am not convinced that we will be productive with him if Dak goes down, now @B.Boston Pat just cut Cam, and to be honest I could see the Cowboys make a move to try and sign him to back up Dak.

But I still think that Revers have a much better arm and can play very well, given the potential of the RB and WR cores that the Cowboys have, the OL still a little shaky, but Rivers is a tough SOB, I got to look, but I think he have had less than a handful of injuries during his years playing, and to be very honest I was surprised when he announced that he was retiring.

 

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as far as his injurues, I can only find a concussion in 2017 and an ACL tear during the playoffs on 08, and he still finished that game.

 

 

 

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