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As a long suffering Giants fan, I'm over here thinking about buying a Darren Waller jersey. They know how to get my hopes up, also how to dash them. We'll see how it works out. I like their off-season.

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15 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... I am not sold on Fields but of course hope I am wrong about him. Good guy from everything I have heard and a hard worker but so far he hasn't shown the ability to be a competent NFL QB let alone a franchise QB. Take away his running and he is the worst in the league. And I am not a know it all sitting on my couch and thinking I am smarter than a GM with a cadre of scouts and a ton of information unavailable, but when a generational talent is available history has shown you take him. 

... If Fields works out and the picks turn into starters, Poles will have made a smart decision to trade down. I do think Moore is the real deal and a proven #1 WR so no guessing on a draft pick and obviously the Bears needed a #1 WR. That said, if Anderson turns into a dominant DE that takes up double teams and changes games with pressures, sacks and forced fumbles it will just be another big mistake made by a Bears GM. As much as I hated losing Roquan Smith, Treimaine Edmunds is a great replacement so Poles stock went up a little imo. 

A good model for what the Bears could be is the Ravens teams that went to the playoffs a bunch early in Lamar Jackson's career. I think they could be better offensively because the Ravens missed on every free agent WR they picked up. D.J. Moore is better than any of them, imo.

Building the team in the trenches and operating your offense through a guy who can run for 3 TDs but might throw 0 any given day has been successful in the past. Tim Tebow's Jets and Vince Young's early years on the Titans come to mind as well.

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5 hours ago, richk9holes said:

As a long suffering Giants fan, I'm over here thinking about buying a Darren Waller jersey. They know how to get my hopes up, also how to dash them. We'll see how it works out. I like their off-season.

I am one Raiders fan that is not in the least upset with dealing Darren Waller. Maybe he will ball out for your team. He had two successful seasons with the Raiders... 3 and 4 years ago. I personally feel like he quit on his team the last two years. He was more interested in rapping than playing football. I hope he plays well for you. I'm happy to be rid of a player that pretty much made it known he didn't care about winning.

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5 hours ago, richk9holes said:

Building the team in the trenches and operating your offense through a guy who can run for 3 TDs but might throw 0 any given day has been successful in the past. Tim Tebow's Jets and Vince Young's early years on the Titans come to mind as well.

I agree to a point. The problem is that 'running QB's' are short lived in the NFL. Look at RG3. Lamar Jackson is often injured. The NFL is a different animal than college.......... all of the defensive players are large, fast and athletic. Not a good thing for a QB that makes a living with his legs.

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10 minutes ago, silver & black said:

I agree to a point. The problem is that 'running QB's' are short lived in the NFL. Look at RG3. Lamar Jackson is often injured. The NFL is a different animal than college.......... all of the defensive players are large, fast and athletic. Not a good thing for a QB that makes a living with his legs.

 

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2 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... Yup, we have seen over and over again it takes one play to end your season. 

Or a career……

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1 minute ago, Rickp said:

Or a career……

 

... IF a running QB can put his manhood and ego on permanent hold like Russel Wilson, I think running is a real advantage as long as they just don't take any hits. Sliding 2 yds before the 1st down mark on 3rd down or just short of the goal line to avoid contact is not only smart but good for the team, even if it means a loss. I think we all know what a win in week 7 when the QB gets in the end zone but suffers a concussion or worse and losing your QB for several weeks or the rest of the season mens a back up isn't gonna get the job done in todays NFL. Purdy was the very rare exception and the 49ers were either lucky, smart or both.  

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The optimal QB I'd want in the offense I would want to run would be able to do both well, but they are rarer than unicorns.

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45 minutes ago, silver & black said:

I agree to a point. The problem is that 'running QB's' are short lived in the NFL. Look at RG3. Lamar Jackson is often injured. The NFL is a different animal than college.......... all of the defensive players are large, fast and athletic. Not a good thing for a QB that makes a living with his legs.

Agree with that, and credit to some of those teams who maintain playoff records with the QB on the shelf, part of it goes to depth chart management and having a guy who can step in.

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52 minutes ago, silver & black said:

I am one Raiders fan that is not in the least upset with dealing Darren Waller. Maybe he will ball out for your team. He had two successful seasons with the Raiders... 3 and 4 years ago. I personally feel like he quit on his team the last two years. He was more interested in rapping than playing football. I hope he plays well for you. I'm happy to be rid of a player that pretty much made it known he didn't care about winning.

I can see your point, but from my view he is the best option when healthy of a hodgepodge of receiving threats we now have in the cases Daniel Jones is running scared with an Eli look on his face. TE has been a draft focus for them so he is serving his purpose as a TE2 even if he doesn't ball out. I imagine his contract will be extended if he's serviceable not great. 

It was a move that was needed from the front office that traded away Evan Engram

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1 hour ago, richk9holes said:

The optimal QB I'd want in the offense I would want to run would be able to do both well, but they are rarer than unicorns.

It isn't necessarily rare. A QB should only run if he has to, or if he has a lane to gain the yards needed. It's always a good thing to have a QB that CAN run, but only if he has to..

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3 minutes ago, silver & black said:

It isn't necessarily rare. A QB should only run if he has to, or if he has a lane to gain the yards needed. It's always a good thing to have a QB that CAN run, but only if he has to..

Josh Allen scares me every time he takes off to run.  

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Any qb can run, but few can run like Mike Vick. When I say run for 3 TDs that's not qb sneaks. It's a unicorn to run like a WR and throw 60 yard dimes. Even Josh Allen, Mahomes, etc don't have the foot speed I'm talking about when I say unicorn.

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58 minutes ago, richk9holes said:

Any qb can run, but few can run like Mike Vick. When I say run for 3 TDs that's not qb sneaks. It's a unicorn to run like a WR and throw 60 yard dimes. Even Josh Allen, Mahomes, etc don't have the foot speed I'm talking about when I say unicorn.

I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is: running QB's in the NFL have a very short shelf life. The NFL is not college. Every player on an NFL roster is head and shoulders above college players. The Defensive players in the NFL are miles better than what any college QB has had to face. A running QB in the NFL is just a play away from being done... period.

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The draft whether it be real or Fantasy is always my favorite part of football. After that I seem to loose some interest till Playoffs.

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I hear my Lions are favored to finish first NFC North. My lifelong low expectations is being severely tested this season, because after this free agency period, and an upcoming two picks in the first round, I’m feeling a little excited of what’s to come.

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2 hours ago, berkeleybob said:

I hear my Lions are favored to finish first NFC North. My lifelong low expectations is being severely tested this season, because after this free agency period, and an upcoming two picks in the first round, I’m feeling a little excited of what’s to come.

 

... And the Lions picked up one of the best all around RB's in the game. David Montgomery takes several hits before he goes down and led the NCAA in broken tackles his last two years at Iowa State, is an outstanding receiver and one of the best blocking backs in the NFL. He just never seems to miss picking up a blitz, something Goff will really appreciate. It was bad enough that Poles let him go but even worse that it was a team in his own division. 🙄

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... And the Lions picked up one of the best all around RB's in the game. David Montgomery takes several hits before he goes down and led the NCAA in broken tackles his last two years at Iowa State, is an outstanding receiver and one of the best blocking backs in the NFL. He just never seems to miss picking up a blitz, something Goff will really appreciate. It was bad enough that Poles let him go but even worse that it was a team in his own division. 🙄

The whole thing around Jamaal Williams was strange, but I'm guessing there was a miscalculation somewhere on Williams' part.

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It's going to be a tough division, good or bad just not sure yet. Sharon Rogers likely to NYJ, Bears rebuilding and 2-3 years away IMO, The Lions are the Lions but I find myself oddly rooting for them. My team the Vikings are always in re-tool mode. No extension for Kirk, only 5 picks in the draft and what I call the hire of of the year in Brian Flores makes this team a huge " no idea how they are going to be" team. 

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34 minutes ago, JFish350 said:

It's going to be a tough division, good or bad just not sure yet. Sharon Rogers likely to NYJ, Bears rebuilding and 2-3 years away IMO, The Lions are the Lions but I find myself oddly rooting for them. My team the Vikings are always in re-tool mode. No extension for Kirk, only 5 picks in the draft and what I call the hire of of the year in Brian Flores makes this team a huge " no idea how they are going to be" team. 

 

... Here is a ca-razy take. 

https://www.pff.com/

Website that specializes in data analysis of NFL teams.

A couple of days ago, a data scientist from that website was asked to predict the two teams in the super bowl next year. She said, "KC chiefs vs Chicago Bears". Now wouldn't that be something....and a helluva turnaround year for the Bears and right now a 10 dollar bet on the Bears to win the super bowl would get you 8,000 dollars.

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1 hour ago, chisag said:

 

... Here is a ca-razy take. 

https://www.pff.com/

Website that specializes in data analysis of NFL teams.

A couple of days ago, a data scientist from that website was asked to predict the two teams in the super bowl next year. She said, "KC chiefs vs Chicago Bears". Now wouldn't that be something....and a helluva turnaround year for the Bears and right now a 10 dollar bet on the Bears to win the super bowl would get you 8,000 dollars.

Have you made that $10 bet?  

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1 minute ago, cnosil said:

Have you made that $10 bet?  

 

... LOL, I might as well just throw a $10 bill out the window of my car.  

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I read that information and immediately thought "bet on the Chiefs"

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... LOL, I might as well just throw a $10 bill out the window of my car.  

Well,   you did bet that the Bears would win 8 (I think that is what it was) games last year.   What is the over/under for wins this year?

 

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1 hour ago, chisag said:

 

... Here is a ca-razy take. 

https://www.pff.com/

Website that specializes in data analysis of NFL teams.

A couple of days ago, a data scientist from that website was asked to predict the two teams in the super bowl next year. She said, "KC chiefs vs Chicago Bears". Now wouldn't that be something....and a helluva turnaround year for the Bears and right now a 10 dollar bet on the Bears to win the super bowl would get you 8,000 dollars.

That’s more of a comment on the state of the NFC than anything else.

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7 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Well,   you did bet that the Bears would win 8 (I think that is what it was) games last year.   What is the over/under for wins this year?

 

... LOL not 8 games but they were in most games so 6.5 was not out of the question. Too much going on to bet the season again so back to game by game. Last year year against the spread they were 5-11-1. It was a tough year for Bears fans. 

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Any other Falcons fans here? I’m biased but LOVE how this team has been constructed over the last few seasons with AS / TF at the helm. 

Really love the Calais Campbell signing - could be a great presence for the young guys this season.  Here’s hoping we make a splash and grab Carter or Anderson to complete this defensive rebuild!

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Any other Falcons fans here? I’m biased but LOVE how this team has been constructed over the last few seasons with AS / TF at the helm. 

Really love the Calais Campbell signing - could be a great presence for the young guys this season.  Here’s hoping we make a splash and grab Carter or Anderson to complete this defensive rebuild!

28-3 😂

I had to do it. I do like the falcons team currently they are building something and hope it works. Outside of the patriots I’m interested in the bears and browns. See what happens any given Sunday!

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23 minutes ago, Lacassem said:

28-3 😂

I had to do it. I do like the falcons team currently they are building something and hope it works. Outside of the patriots I’m interested in the bears and browns. See what happens any given Sunday!

Come on man!!! But seriously, it’s part of being a falcons fan. Really loving the identity we are building. 

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2 minutes ago, CFreddie said:

Come on man!!! But seriously, it’s part of being a falcons fan. Really loving the identity we are building. 

I had to it just comes with the territory, just like a giants fan could bust us on 1 handed catches.

yea I’m a big fan they are building that line up and hopefully allgeirie is the real deal (for my fantasy teams sake)

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