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3 minutes ago, Middler said:

There are so many stupid questions and so many asking the same thing over and over, I don’t blame Belicheck for his press conference behavior over the years. The Pats, and Belicheck in particular, play things close to the vest - I think that’s what drives his non answers for the most part. There have been others like Ditka, Parcells, etc. And though many head coaches act pleasant, many of them give lots of lengthy non answers too. 
 

Pats fans don’t care if you respect the team or not, no one asked you to. But if harping on the Pats makes you feel better about yourself or your team - have at it.

Close to the vest for what on Saturday?  The season was over.  There was nothing to prepare for.  There was nothing to veil or be subversive about.  Be a man, and answer the f'ing questions, no matter how stupid or repetitive they seem to be.  That's part of the job, and any other "professional" would handle it with respect and dignity.  But Belichick has neither respect, grace, manners, humility, or dignity in anything he says or does.  He flips the middle finger at the press with his waste of time pressers, and he went out of his way to wear the ugliest mandated NFL attire on game day so as to give the NFL the middle finger as well.  Everything about this man is rude, condescending, arrogant, belligerent and mean.


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....alright gang.... let's turn the volume down a notch and remember 

THIS IS A GOLF FORUM

it's fine to discuss other things but do if you want to get down to the nitty gritty and argue about coaching styles and behavior please consider a football forum and always READ WHAT YOU WRITE BEFORE HITTING SUBMIT REPLY.... if you are on the other end reading it and it seems offensive or is getting too personal please edit or consider not posting

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11 hours ago, GSwag said:

Basically I will simply say that I look forward to the demise of the Patriots, and them returning to their 1970's status of doormat of the league.  That's where they belong at this point.

I'm not sure I could become a Brady fan even if he ended up in Miami and led them to blowout wins over NE and a return to the Superbowl... well, maybe I could.  I mean, this would be a valid and ultimate test of his GOAT moniker...don't you think?  🙂  

Regarding Belichick's post game monotones, I actually find them just right.  Listening to most of these coaches blather on about this and that, to the redundant and clickbait media questions, is (was) boring.


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29 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:

That's all I got to say 

 

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This is both sad and funny at the same time. Still deciding on which reaction icon to use 🤔.

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As I have said before, I'm not much of an NFL fan.  I watch sporadic coverage during the playoffs but haven't watched a regular season game since before having kids nearly 15 years ago.  With that said, it appears the Patriots "dynasty" is likely coming to an end.  It's been as impressive a run as anything in the history of all professional sports.  My hat's off to Belichick and Brady for accomplishing more in 20 years than anyone ever imagined possible.

Regardless of how anyone may feel about the Patriots, Belichick or Brady, their accomplishments are unprecedented in professional sports.  The closest possible comparison may be the Boston Celtics of the 50's and 60's.  In my opinion, free agency alone renders the Patriots dynasty head and shoulders above the Celtics.  Auerbach and company never had to deal with an ever changing and evolving roster.  They essentially had the exact same roster for 15 years.

I'm certainly not a Patriot's fan but have enormous respect for what the organization has accomplished over the past 20 years.  The level of excellence and consistency is stunning and unprecedented in professional team sports.

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2 hours ago, Middler said:

I’m a Pats fan, and I don’t much care what others think, Pats fans are used to it. No one cares if you respect the Pats. Root for your team, but when fans go out of their way to criticize another team it’s almost childish. Or present selective facts, like the weak division BS, grow up. 9 AFC championships and 6 Super Bowls, and you want to believe it was just cheating?

Tell me what’s good about your team, not what you think is bad about a team you don’t like. Be happy when a team you like wins, but being gleeful about another team losing is childish.

But again, the Belicheck-Brady dynasty is over whether they like it or not, they lost and deserved to this year, so how much longer do you want to argue about it? 

I'm not arguing at all. I just strongly disagree with your position on the weak division. It IS a weak division that most definitely played to the Pat's favor. I'm not sure how you or anyone else can't see/understand that. 

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1 hour ago, fixyurdivot said:

This is both sad and funny at the same time. Still deciding on which reaction icon to use 🤔.

Its sad on many levels. 

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1 minute ago, tony@CIC said:

Its sad on many levels. 

You're not getting too many tears from this lifelong Miami Dolphins fan 😉.  Let's see which one of us gets Brady 😆.

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1 minute ago, Middler said:

Weak division or not, how did that win them 9 AFC championships and 6 Super Bowls? They had to play the best of every other division more years than not.

I get both of your points, but being able to run roughshod over their division during this run certainly increased their chances of getting postseason bids.  Shifting focus a bit, do you think Brady resigns with NE or gets swooned away by another team?


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14 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

You're not getting too many tears from this lifelong Miami Dolphins fan 😉.  Let's see which one of us gets Brady 😆.

I dunno, I think the Dolphins might finally be getting on the right track again. With 3 first round picks this year, and coach that the players actually seem to respect, y’all could be doing pretty well soon. 

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Wow-

Seahawks win and get one post about a headshot from Clowney.

but the Pats lose and get 6 pages of hatred or defending accusations...

I think the one post of twisted panties was the best encapsulated statement.

 

ok folks, on to round 2!!

49ers by 7 over Minn

Balt by 9 over Tenn

KC by 9-1/2 over Houston

Packers by 4 over Hawks

 

there is always an upset isn’t there? Who will get upset next week?

I pick (duh) the Hawks to beat the Packers, and Minn to beat the 49ers

 

 


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13 minutes ago, GB13 said:

I dunno, I think the Dolphins might finally be getting on the right track again. With 3 first round picks this year, and coach that the players actually seem to respect, y’all could be doing pretty well soon. 

We (fans) can only hope.  It's been a long, thirsty drought.


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2 minutes ago, Middler said:

For the third time, getting postseason bids does not help you beat anyone from another division. If they'd done it once or twice you'd have an argument, but not with so many wins against all comers. They had to beat the best from other divisions 2-3 times to win 9 AFC titles, and the best of the NFC to win the Super Bowl.

I don't care what he does. He's had a great career, already longer than most, and I hope he retires before he tarnishes his legacy further, he did not play well this years despite a weaker supporting cast. I hope he doesn't go anywhere else, to tarnish his legacy somewhere else. The current Pats dynasty is over whether they like it or not, and I'm a Pats fan.

But you're not taking into consideration that, in a highly competitive division, they might not even get into the playoffs, get home field advantage, get byes and time to heal.

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11 minutes ago, Sluggo42 said:

Wow-

Seahawks win and get one post about a headshot from Clowney.

but the Pats lose and get 6 pages of hatred or defending accusations...

I think the one post of twisted panties was the best encapsulated statement.

 

ok folks, on to round 2!!

49ers by 7 over Minn

Balt by 9 over Tenn

KC by 9-1/2 over Houston

Packers by 4 over Hawks

 

there is always an upset isn’t there? Who will get upset next week?

I pick (duh) the Hawks to beat the Packers, and Minn to beat the 49ers

 

 

Who are the Seahawks?

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A few unbiased observations after reading through some of the recent commentary in this thread.  The Patriots have definitely benefited in recent years from playing in a weak division but it hasn't been a weak division for 20 years.  Regardless of the strength of the division, it doesn't reflect on the Patriots winning 6 of 9 Super Bowls since 2001.  Every division in football has had the opportunity to end the Patriots dominance and few have been able to.  Point being, the Patriots have still had to go through the Ravens, Colts, Broncos, and Steelers to reach 9 Super Bowls in 18 seasons.

It's a remarkable level of excellence and consistency that is unmatched in professional team sports.  Objectively appreciate it for what it is.  The odds are very slim we will ever see anything similar again.

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37 minutes ago, Sluggo42 said:

Wow-

Seahawks win and get one post about a headshot from Clowney.

but the Pats lose and get 6 pages of hatred or defending accusations...

I think the one post of twisted panties was the best encapsulated statement.

 

ok folks, on to round 2!!

49ers by 7 over Minn

Balt by 9 over Tenn

KC by 9-1/2 over Houston

Packers by 4 over Hawks

 

there is always an upset isn’t there? Who will get upset next week?

I pick (duh) the Hawks to beat the Packers, and Minn to beat the 49ers

 

 

I like the Hawks over the Packers, and I dunno if Ten will actually win, but I predict it to be much closer than everyone expects. Otherwise I think KC and SF will take care of business. 

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Interesting read.  https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/08/23/washington-redskins-2013-coaching-staff-sean-mcvay-kyle-shanahan-matt-lafleur-mike-shanahan-rg3 

From 2010 to 2014, the Redskins had Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Matt LaFleur, Mike LaFleur, Rich Scangarello and Mike McDaniel on their staff.  Shanahan, McVay and Matt LaFleur have all become head coaches in the NFL.  One would even suggest, they have become elite head coaches in the NFL.  The Redskins are still searching for anything respectable.  Shanahan has turned the 49ers into a Super Bowl contender.  McVay took the Rams to the Super Bowl a year ago.  LaFleur has turned the Packers around in very short order.  His younger brother Mike is one of the hottest assistants in the league along with Scangarello and McDaniel.  Quite a coaching tree for such an awful Redskins team.  Those kinds of coaching trees are usually found in Super Bowl contenders, not doormats of the league.

Dan Snyder is the worst owner in professional sports!   

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45 minutes ago, sixcat said:

Dan Snyder is the worst owner in professional sports!   

I think this is definitely something we can ALL agree on, regardless of who you root for!

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2 hours ago, Middler said:

Weak division or not, how did that win them 9 AFC championships and 6 Super Bowls? They had to play the best of every other division for every one of those wins. I'm not sure how you or anyone else can't see/understand that.

People should also keep in mind the Pats have a first place schedule every year meaning they play the top teams in other divisions.  Maybe that is why the Super Bowl loser rarely makes the playoffs the next year.  But at the end of the day who cares.

Brady to Denver.

Home teams hold serve this weekend.

Niners go all the way after getting a good look at Lamar during the regular season.  


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21 hours ago, FrogginBullfish said:

Saints fans are going to have a whole nother postseason of living with a missed PI call...

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I’m more upset about the gifted TD during regulation. Our guy was all over Rudolph on that last play so I can’t be too upset about the ruling on the field. I can be upset about New York’s decision not to review it though.


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