NFL thread! What are you thinking?

[Middler 1,975]

Not a Cam Newton fan but I thought he played pretty well last night, though he’s a little too reluctant to give the ball to others. There were several examples, but the last play of the game is exhibit one. They could have won if they scored from the one yard line on the last play. Everyone knew Cam Newton would try to run it in, so of course he didn’t make it, not even close. I assume the Patriots coaching staff will make more of a team player out of Newton, we’ll see...

[russtopherb 5,776]

2 hours ago, Middler said:

Not a Cam Newton fan but I thought he played pretty well last night, though he’s a little too reluctant to give the ball to others. There were several examples, but the last play of the game is exhibit one. They could have won if they scored from the one yard line on the last play. Everyone knew Cam Newton would try to run it in, so of course he didn’t make it, not even close. I assume the Patriots coaching staff will make more of a team player out of Newton, we’ll see...

That same play worked 3 times earlier in the game so they went back to it again. Not sure how that's on Cam? And the way he threw the ball all night showed that he's just fine getting people involved. 

[Middler 1,975]

35 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

That same play worked 3 times earlier in the game so they went back to it again. Not sure how that's on Cam? And the way he threw the ball all night showed that he's just fine getting people involved. 

When they had the luxury of another play, not the last play of the game with a win in the balance. I didn’t say Cam should never run. But we disagree, no harm in that. I said Cam did well, I’m sure his QB rating was over 100.

[russtopherb 5,776]

22 minutes ago, Middler said:

When they had the luxury of another play, not the last play of the game with a win in the balance. I didn’t say Cam should never run. But we disagree, no harm in that. I said Cam did well, I’m sure his QB rating was over 100.

Your post heavily implied that the Patriots lost because Cam Newton is a selfish player. 

[ejgaudette 874]

I thought the Patriots did well against a good team. Tough way to lose it, but I think the last play call was fine, they had some success with it this play early on. With a bit more time (I think they misused the timeouts there) I think something better could have been put together or a couple plays to work off each other. I am glad they are still competitive here and didn't fall off a cliff. More concerned about the defense, they could use some more talent in the front 7, but not sure if they will get anything. Still early though.

[Middler 1,975]

2 hours ago, russtopherb said:

Your post heavily implied that the Patriots lost because Cam Newton is a selfish player. 

Lighten up Francis. You're welcome to your opinion, and I didn't imply it, I said it outright - while complimenting his performance at the outset. There are plenty of NFL experts criticizing the call (McDaniels) and the option choice (Newton) that know more than you or I. I hope Cam is successful at NE.

[blackngold_blood 4,027]

3 hours ago, Middler said:

Lighten up Francis. You're welcome to your opinion, and I didn't imply it, I said it outright - while complimenting his performance at the outset. There are plenty of NFL experts criticizing the call (McDaniels) and the option choice (Newton) that know more than you or I. I hope Cam is successful at NE.

I got no dog in this fight and am not a patriots or Cam fan. That said the last call was on McDaniels not Cam. There was no option for Cam to give the ball to anybody else since the other 10 guys were in front of him and none of them released for a pass. Cam had no choice but to run. 
 

On a side note, Cam does tend to keep the option more than any other QB. Professional or College. 

[Middler 1,975]

10 minutes ago, blackngold_blood said:

I got no dog in this fight and am not a patriots or Cam fan. That said the last call was on McDaniels not Cam. There was no option for Cam to give the ball to anybody else since the other 10 guys were in front of him and none of them released for a pass. Cam had no choice but to run. 
 

On a side note, Cam does tend to keep the option more than any other QB. Professional or College. 

I looked at it again, and you’re right. There was someone in the backfield, but he went ahead to block. Cam (predictably):did keep too often on option plays IMO, but the last play wasn’t an example of that after all.

[StrokerAce 10,474]

Loved that play where Cam faked it and threw to the fullback. Too bad they used it earlier, that would have been sneaky good.

On a side note, this is where they really missed James White... 

[StrokerAce 10,474]

9 minutes ago, Middler said:

I looked at it again, and you’re right. There was someone in the backfield, but he went ahead to block. Cam (predictably):did keep too often on option plays IMO, but the last play wasn’t an example of that after all.

Great breakdown of the final play by a former O lineman...

 

[kardboard.kid 2,081]

I'm still trying to get enough energy up to watch my Vikings.  

[ejgaudette 874]

On 9/22/2020 at 11:16 AM, kardboard.kid said:

I'm still trying to get enough energy up to watch my Vikings.  

Been a tough start to the year for them unfortunately. I thought think they still have a good team overall, hopefully they turn it around.

[StrokerAce 10,474]

Geez.... this is going from BAD to WORSE... good grief.

 

@TomPelissero

 

Recapping this morning's COVID-19 news: - Reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year Stephon Gilmore tested positive and the #Patriots canceled practice - Another #Titans
player tested positive and their facility reopening is on hold Big questions entering Week 5.

[russtopherb 5,776]

Yup. Having that MNF game may come back and bite the NFL in the butt.

[StrokerAce 10,474]

they're going to have to set a rule where there is at least a 4 day window after any positive test now. no way they can just 'postpone' 1-2 days.

[Kenny B 23,116]

NFL players are just not as disciplined as pro golfers.

[cnosil 14,614]

NFL players are just not as disciplined as pro golfers.

Golfers don’t have to touch each other as part of their job.

[Kenny B 23,116]

43 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Golfers don’t have to touch each other as part of their job.

Also, some teams/players of the NFL don't follow COVID rules very well.

[silver & black 5,558]

Raaaaiiiiiiideeeeerrrrrrs!!!!

[Lacassem 8,000]

2 minutes ago, silver & black said:

Raaaaiiiiiiideeeeerrrrrrs!!!!

Awsome game to watch!