Jarmst10 17 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Looking to get some help in figuring out what golf training swing aid is best. Finally getting my game somewhat more consistent (breaking 100) but I'd like to get my swing dialed in a bit more. I've seen a bunch of stuff out there, but I want to know what has worked best for people on the forum. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 3 Quote WITB? Driver: 2016 TaylorMade M2, 9.5*, Irons: 2017 Taylormade M2 4-PW, Wedges: Bombtech 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot putter Ball: Callaway Supersoft Link to post Share on other sites
GB13 7,778 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I have heard of great results with the DST compressor and the Tour Striker. 4 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to post Share on other sites
GolfSpy MPR 10,217 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Always a good question, but capable of multiple answers. The first reply question might be, "What swing flaw do you need to correct?" A given training aid that works perfectly for one person might accentuate the problem a second person needs to eliminate. I want to take it in another direction, however. How do you best feel a change in your swing? Some training aids reinforce a swing feeling. Here, we could include the Swingyde, Smart Ball/Swing Shirt/Smooth Swing, the Hanger, and many others. These aids all want you to feel something within you: a certain wrist hinge, or the relationship of your arms. A second class of training aids makes you focus on path. Someone just posted about one of these: the Speed Trap. Others make you focus on strike: the Tour Striker and DST Compressor are in this class. Others let you analyze data: various swing analyzers, like Zepp and SwingByte. And then there are the tempo tools: the Orange Whip or SKLZ Gold Flex. I'm listing these again not just because they do different things, but they approach *how* to change the swing differently. Learning where you focus when doing a swing change—knowing what works most effectively for you—makes a big difference in choosing a training aid. For me: I want numbers. I also tend to focus on swing mechanics. I'm probably analytical to the point of hurting my game, to be honest. That said, tonight I had a (low end) launch monitor giving me ball speed and carry distance, while using a Swingyde on a Tour Striker. I'm trying to groove a feel, while monitoring outcomes. 5 Quote Epic Flash Sub Zero, 9°, Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 70 X Mavrik Sub Zero 15°, Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 70 S F6 5-6W, 18.5°, Fujikura Motore 6.3 XTD Proto dHy 21°, Aldila Green NV Hybrid 105 S 699 Pro, Modus3 105, 5–PW Forged Black 50°, 54°, and 58° Stroke Lab EXO Seven Mini, 34" Z-Star XV Full WITB with pictures Link to post Share on other sites
SteddyGolf 1,880 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Looking to get some help in figuring out what golf training swing aid is best. Finally getting my game somewhat more consistent (breaking 100) but I'd like to get my swing dialed in a bit more. I've seen a bunch of stuff out there, but I want to know what has worked best for people on the forum. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I think the best training aid you can buy is a coach, preferably one who uses video feedback you can watch and listen to on your own time at home. There are quit a few YouTube videos of the best golf swing training adds. Still without live feedback those training aids may hurt as much as they help. https://youtu.be/0fwt9R17xh0 Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MGoBlue100 2,379 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Can't argue with SteddyGolf, but DO read the thread here re: DST Compressor. I was on the review team for that, and I am a huge advocate. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote "Where'd it go?" "Right in the Lumberyard..." Gen 2 0811 XF 10.5* Project X HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 60 X-Flex Tour B JGR 15* Fairway UST ProForce V2 7F5 76g X-Flex Tour B JGR 19* & 22* Hybrid UST ProForce V2 90g X-Flex Tour B JGR HF-2 irons (5i - PW) KBS Tour 130x CBX Wedges (50, 54, 58) TT Dynamic Gold 115 Wedge Shaft MATI Mamo Putter 33" Super Stroke Football League 3.0 Slim Tour B-RX Precision Pro Nexus Rangefinder FAN! PRO Member Link to post Share on other sites
SteddyGolf 1,880 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Can't argue with SteddyGolf, but DO read the thread here re: DST Compressor. I was on the review team for that, and I am a huge advocate. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Excellent review. I'm pretty awesome perspective Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jarmst10 17 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 Always a good question, but capable of multiple answers. The first reply question might be, "What swing flaw do you need to correct?" A given training aid that works perfectly for one person might accentuate the problem a second person needs to eliminate. I want to take it in another direction, however. How do you best feel a change in your swing? Some training aids reinforce a swing feeling. Here, we could include the Swingyde, Smart Ball/Swing Shirt/Smooth Swing, the Hanger, and many others. These aids all want you to feel something within you: a certain wrist hinge, or the relationship of your arms. A second class of training aids makes you focus on path. Someone just posted about one of these: the Speed Trap. Others make you focus on strike: the Tour Striker and DST Compressor are in this class. Others let you analyze data: various swing analyzers, like Zepp and SwingByte. And then there are the tempo tools: the Orange Whip or SKLZ Gold Flex. I'm listing these again not just because they do different things, but they approach *how* to change the swing differently. Learning where you focus when doing a swing change—knowing what works most effectively for you—makes a big difference in choosing a training aid. For me: I want numbers. I also tend to focus on swing mechanics. I'm probably analytical to the point of hurting my game, to be honest. That said, tonight I had a (low end) launch monitor giving me ball speed and carry distance, while using a Swingyde on a Tour Striker. I'm trying to groove a feel, while monitoring outcomes. Thanks for the detailed feedback, I'll check all of these out. To answer some of your questions, there are really just a few kinks I feel need to be worked out especially with the driver. My irons are getting much more consistent and I've seen things like the hangar out there that look appealing. I can get obsessive and over analyze things as well, as I think most golfers can do and I don't want to hurt my game, just become more consistent. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote WITB? Driver: 2016 TaylorMade M2, 9.5*, Irons: 2017 Taylormade M2 4-PW, Wedges: Bombtech 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot putter Ball: Callaway Supersoft Link to post Share on other sites
Jarmst10 17 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 I think the best training aid you can buy is a coach, preferably one who uses video feedback you can watch and listen to on your own time at home. There are quit a few YouTube videos of the best golf swing training adds. Still without live feedback those training aids may hurt as much as they help. https://youtu.be/0fwt9R17xh0 Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Yea I'm on the verge of giving a coach a try. Only thing holding me back is that I'm cheap, but in the long run I think it's going to be worth it. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 3 Quote WITB? Driver: 2016 TaylorMade M2, 9.5*, Irons: 2017 Taylormade M2 4-PW, Wedges: Bombtech 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot putter Ball: Callaway Supersoft Link to post Share on other sites
PlaidJacket 7,725 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I think the best training aid you can buy is a coach, preferably one who uses video feedback you can watch and listen to on your own time at home. There are quit a few YouTube videos of the best golf swing training adds. Still without live feedback those training aids may hurt as much as they help. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy That was my first thought when I read the topic. I have bought/used several "training-aids" through the years. But the best bang for my buck has always been my instructor. Golf training aids are like fishing lures and bait to fishermen. There's always that one that guarantees a whopper. But sticking with the topic theme I'll provide three that actually helped me some. DST Compressor - promotes shaft lean Pivot Pro - promotes loading on the right side without swaying Orange Whip - stretching and promotes tempo 2 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to post Share on other sites
Har in the Hat 1,589 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Always a good question, but capable of multiple answers. The first reply question might be, "What swing flaw do you need to correct?" A given training aid that works perfectly for one person might accentuate the problem a second person needs to eliminate. I want to take it in another direction, however. How do you best feel a change in your swing? Some training aids reinforce a swing feeling. Here, we could include the Swingyde, Smart Ball/Swing Shirt/Smooth Swing, the Hanger, and many others. These aids all want you to feel something within you: a certain wrist hinge, or the relationship of your arms. A second class of training aids makes you focus on path. Someone just posted about one of these: the Speed Trap. Others make you focus on strike: the Tour Striker and DST Compressor are in this class. Others let you analyze data: various swing analyzers, like Zepp and SwingByte. And then there are the tempo tools: the Orange Whip or SKLZ Gold Flex. I'm listing these again not just because they do different things, but they approach *how* to change the swing differently. Learning where you focus when doing a swing change—knowing what works most effectively for you—makes a big difference in choosing a training aid. For me: I want numbers. I also tend to focus on swing mechanics. I'm probably analytical to the point of hurting my game, to be honest. That said, tonight I had a (low end) launch monitor giving me ball speed and carry distance, while using a Swingyde on a Tour Striker. I'm trying to groove a feel, while monitoring outcomes. Great reply MPR 2 Quote What's in my Mizuno BR-D2 bag OFFICIAL TESTER FOR THE PING i500 CLUBS. Currently playing Ping i500 w/ Alta CB graphite shafts MP 25 - fitted w/ Project X shafts - stiff 60 / 56 52 910 D2 driver - 9.5 degree -fitted13 F 3 wood 13.5 deg CPR 3 hybrid Method mallet Dexterity: I shoot left-handed so no one can ask me "Hey, can I try that club?" Twitter @GolfingHat Instagram @Mizunostixgolfnut Link to post Share on other sites
Har in the Hat 1,589 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I think.the first thing you need to do is find a club pro so that he / she can analyze your swing and tell you what needs correcting. And usually it is not training aids that are required. the training aids are more for memory muscle learning more than anything else. you need to know what to correct first. and that's why the swing analysis comes first. I am a strong advocate for lessons. 2 Quote What's in my Mizuno BR-D2 bag OFFICIAL TESTER FOR THE PING i500 CLUBS. Currently playing Ping i500 w/ Alta CB graphite shafts MP 25 - fitted w/ Project X shafts - stiff 60 / 56 52 910 D2 driver - 9.5 degree -fitted13 F 3 wood 13.5 deg CPR 3 hybrid Method mallet Dexterity: I shoot left-handed so no one can ask me "Hey, can I try that club?" Twitter @GolfingHat Instagram @Mizunostixgolfnut Link to post Share on other sites
GolfSpy MPR 10,217 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Thanks for the detailed feedback, I'll check all of these out. To answer some of your questions, there are really just a few kinks I feel need to be worked out especially with the driver. My irons are getting much more consistent and I've seen things like the hangar out there that look appealing. I can get obsessive and over analyze things as well, as I think most golfers can do and I don't want to hurt my game, just become more consistent. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I have no room to talk on driver consistency, but if I had a range, I'd definitely buy a can of foot spray for checking impact location. So much of driver inconsistency isn't that face and path vary so terribly, but that guys of our handicap are hitting it all over the face, resulting in massive shifts in distance and direction. 1 Quote Epic Flash Sub Zero, 9°, Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 70 X Mavrik Sub Zero 15°, Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 70 S F6 5-6W, 18.5°, Fujikura Motore 6.3 XTD Proto dHy 21°, Aldila Green NV Hybrid 105 S 699 Pro, Modus3 105, 5–PW Forged Black 50°, 54°, and 58° Stroke Lab EXO Seven Mini, 34" Z-Star XV Full WITB with pictures Link to post Share on other sites
dpgolf36 92 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I had a huge problem last year with getting off a tee box with my driver. All winter long I worked with our head pro and he had me doing a combination of things. The orange whip and orange peel really helped with my balance, swing path, and swing tempo. We also used the speed sticks but swing speed was never an issue that I had. I recommend working with a PGA Professional/ swing coach and they will lead you in the right direction. The good ones will usually have the training aids to help you out. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote Titleist 917 D2 9.5 Aldila Rogue Max Low X stiff flex Cobra F8+ 3-4 Wood 2knv green shaft Srixon U65 18 Steel Fiber i110x Srixon U65 4 iron Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 X stiff Srixon 765 5-PW Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 X stiff flex standard length/ 1 degree flat Vokey 52/56/60 Bettinardi SS28 Center Shafted Putter Srixon Zstar XV 2019 Right Handed Champaign, IL USGA handicap index 22.1 Twitter: @darrenp36 Instagram: @dpow36 Link to post Share on other sites
Jarmst10 17 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 I have no room to talk on driver consistency, but if I had a range, I'd definitely buy a can of foot spray for checking impact location. So much of driver inconsistency isn't that face and path vary so terribly, but that guys of our handicap are hitting it all over the face, resulting in massive shifts in distance and direction. Yea just bought a can to see where I'm landing. We'll see what happens haha.... but thanks for the response. Just need to dig in to some of this stuff as well as look for a pro in the area for some possible coaching. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote WITB? Driver: 2016 TaylorMade M2, 9.5*, Irons: 2017 Taylormade M2 4-PW, Wedges: Bombtech 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot putter Ball: Callaway Supersoft Link to post Share on other sites
Jarmst10 17 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 I had a huge problem last year with getting off a tee box with my driver. All winter long I worked with our head pro and he had me doing a combination of things. The orange whip and orange peel really helped with my balance, swing path, and swing tempo. We also used the speed sticks but swing speed was never an issue that I had. I recommend working with a PGA Professional/ swing coach and they will lead you in the right direction. The good ones will usually have the training aids to help you out. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Yea I think that's the way I might go and then pick up a training aid or two from there. Thanks fo the feedback. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote WITB? Driver: 2016 TaylorMade M2, 9.5*, Irons: 2017 Taylormade M2 4-PW, Wedges: Bombtech 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot putter Ball: Callaway Supersoft Link to post Share on other sites
SteddyGolf 1,880 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Yea I'm on the verge of giving a coach a try. Only thing holding me back is that I'm cheap, but in the long run I think it's going to be worth it. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quick story...... I was in Louisville for work and had a little extra time on my hands. Because I was struggling with ball flight off the tee I thought maybe it was time for a new driver shaft so I visited the local Golf Galaxy. I told the guy there my story and he said before we fit you with a new shaft let's take a look at your swing. Long story short I was hitting a 10.5 degree driver delivering it to the ball at around 8 degrees. He helped me change my set up which increase the launch angle to the mid teens. The end results were transformational. My point is......invest in some lessons now and save money you would spend in training aids, lost balls and countless clubs promising to make you a better golfer. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AH1980MN 935 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Also check out the training aids section in these forums... 1 Quote WITB: Adams 9064LS 9.5* (until I cracked the face) Adams Super LS 17* Adams XTD Ti 23* Wilson Staff Ci7 4-PW Adams wedges: 52/7 56/13 60/7 Wilson Staff Infinite Southside putter/Odyssey DualForce 660 putter Link to post Share on other sites
Jarmst10 17 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Quick story...... I was in Louisville for work and had a little extra time on my hands. Because I was struggling with ball flight off the tee I thought maybe it was time for a new driver shaft so I visited the local Golf Galaxy. I told the guy there my story and he said before we fit you with a new shaft let's take a look at your swing. Long story short I was hitting a 10.5 degree driver delivering it to the ball at around 8 degrees. He helped me change my set up which increase the launch angle to the mid teens. The end results were transformational. My point is......invest in some lessons now and save money you would spend in training aids, lost balls and countless clubs promising to make you a better golfer. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Yea I think the general consensus is just go get some lessons haha. Appriciate the feedback man! 1 Quote WITB? Driver: 2016 TaylorMade M2, 9.5*, Irons: 2017 Taylormade M2 4-PW, Wedges: Bombtech 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot putter Ball: Callaway Supersoft Link to post Share on other sites
Jarmst10 17 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Also check out the training aids section in these forums... Will do, Thanks man! 1 Quote WITB? Driver: 2016 TaylorMade M2, 9.5*, Irons: 2017 Taylormade M2 4-PW, Wedges: Bombtech 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot putter Ball: Callaway Supersoft Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun 0 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Some great comments here. I will not throw away training aids completely, with that being said you need to know why you are using it, is it tempo, club face control, speed etc. If you know what (by getting a lesson) I see them as a great asset Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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