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Yeah, I have heard nothing but good things about Ping's build quality. They are usually closest to specs of most OEM's.

Ive order several clubs over the years from ping and they've been the closest in specs of all companies

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If you didn't order the original clubs through the guy who fit you, then I can understand why he doesn't want to fix anything.

 

That being said, the place where you were fit should have had some type of specs on a sheet for you before you left. The fitter would have known that cutting and adjusting shafts would have an effect on the swing weight and stiffness. And he should have specified that.

 

But still you would have thought the OEM would have figured it out, or at least asked you during the phone conversation when you placed the order. Dealing with OEM's though, they're more like an assembly line and not really into the details. You specify what you want and they "try" to make it happen. I have had to check specs on clubs and they weren't correct, even when specified during the ordering process.

 

In this case, it sounds like your best bet is to have a reputable club builder look at the specs from your fitting and rebuild the set.

 

 

 

Well, I thought I would get some help from the guy who did the fitting and got his money for it.

But he didn't offer much in the way of anything when I made him aware.

Coincidentally he is in Fort Worth .... probably the most recommended guy actually. Though I won't put his name out there.

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Ok - does anyone know one of these club builders in the Dallas/Fort Worth area?


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Drivers: M1 62g HZRDUS RED 6.0

Hybrid: TourEdge Exotics XCG-6 Ozik 6.1S

Irons: Ping i210 5-U, zz-65 stiff, orange, -.5

Wedge: Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 56 ES s300

Putter: Ping Zing 2 33.75"

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Mizuno is the only company I will order custom through.

 

Ping is a joke. As in, if I described giving measurements to the last sales rep or club rep that I had to talk to at Ping many of us would laugh our ass off

 

 

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I'm sort of offended by this comment, having had my last two sets of irons custom fit through PING. I love PING products, and almost my entire bag reflects that.

 

Now with that said, when I got fit for PING it's not with a clubfitter, as my last one was with Edwin Watts, and this wasn't a situation where I walked through the door and asked them to start from scratch and fit me for irons based on any brand that would be best for my game. I came in already knowing I wanted PING and that it was literally hitting 2 or 3 different iron options and then picking one, including different shaft and head options.

 

But this was over a year ago, and the next time I am ready to invest in new clubs I will go through a club fitter and avoid having preconceived notions of what brand I want to play and just let them fit me to the best clubs that work the best for my swing.

 

And not that I want to pick on Edwin Watts, but getting fit for irons off of an indoor simulator will not be how I do it next time either. Hitting off of a mat is completely different from hitting outdoors off of grass. I won't buy irons next time, unless I am able to hit it outdoors and see the numbers based on those results.

 

With regards to your situation specifically, the only thing I can think of is that how you swung the club in the fitting process was different from when you took it to the course. I tell you that because that's sort of what happened to me. I tested the fit based on purchasing just the 5 iron first, and then I took that on the course to hit it. At first I was getting this clanking sounds and it didn't feel solid to me with that club, and I spent about 6 months with that sort of feeling, which over that time I kept buying the next iron in the set until I had the entire set, which really in this case was only the 5-9 irons. But what I discovered was that my swing plane was off, and once I produced a flatter swing with these irons, all of a sudden, boom, hitting them better than any irons I've ever had.

 

So perhaps get some tape and put it on the bottom of your irons and hit off of the plastic black mat and see if your lie angle is off. Because what I did is definitely not the way to go, because adjusting your swing to fit misfit clubs is something very few people will able to do successfully.

 

And I can already feel the negative comments coming at me at what an idiot I am with the way my process went. In response to anyone thinking that, well, yeah, I truly am an idiot for buying clubs this way, but I'm a blue collar guy with a very limited budget, so I was replacing 15 year old irons that were non-conforming for tournaments, so this is the budget or cheap guy approach to buying new clubs. Heck, I might've been better just going to Play it Again Sports and buying a set of irons from them, and then adjusting my swing to those clubs.

 

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Ok - does anyone know one of these club builders in the Dallas/Fort Worth area?

 

I'd recommend Dave Murray at the Course at Watter's Creek in Plano. A friend of mine got a fitting there (wound up with a Ping bag) and said Dave was great to work with. He fits most OEMs but also custom builds Wishon clubs (or at least he did). https://www.watterscreekgolf.com/clubfitting/

 

I've heard lots of good things about Bo Hodnett at Golf Tech, also in Plano. He's had a number of tour guys at his shop over the years. http://golftechplano.com/

 

Russ Ryden at Fit2Score seems to know more about shafts than just about anyone. He might be a good source as well, although I haven't heard as much about his fittings. http://fit2score.com

 

Dave and Russ do outdoor fittings. Bo may have a range available, but from the web site it looks like he does his fittings indoors.

 

I don't know of anyone from the mid-cities west, though.

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Thanks !!!


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Drivers: M1 62g HZRDUS RED 6.0

Hybrid: TourEdge Exotics XCG-6 Ozik 6.1S

Irons: Ping i210 5-U, zz-65 stiff, orange, -.5

Wedge: Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 56 ES s300

Putter: Ping Zing 2 33.75"

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back to the original post.

What is the problem? Did you buy the cobras with the lighter shafts and find out that 120s were better for you?

Do you not like the 120s? Its late so I may be missing it.

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I loved the 120s during multiple fitting/tryout sessions.  However, once they were actually cut it just fell apart.

Cobra said they knew just what to do to make these work (We work on Ricky and Bryson's clubs so don't worry- was the line), but all they did was cut off an inch and ship.

Cobra CEO stepped up and made it right several months later.

Now ---- new Ping irons on the way, after mega thorough fitting to ensure this didn't happen a 2nd time.

 

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Drivers: M1 62g HZRDUS RED 6.0

Hybrid: TourEdge Exotics XCG-6 Ozik 6.1S

Irons: Ping i210 5-U, zz-65 stiff, orange, -.5

Wedge: Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 56 ES s300

Putter: Ping Zing 2 33.75"

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On 8/26/2018 at 10:44 AM, TxRedMan said:

Ping is a joke. As in, if I described giving measurements to the last sales rep or club rep that I had to talk to at Ping many of us would laugh our ass off

This statement is a bit concerning to me - given I'm on the verge of placing an order for G410 irons!!  My fitter has all the pertinent data from which I presume two things will happen.  First that he orders them from PING with those specs.  Second that PING builds them to those specs.  

From yours and others comments, is this a unrealistic expectation?  If so, that's ridiculous.  Why even bother getting fitted if one cannot depend on a company to build them to a given set of specifications.


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16 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

This statement is a bit concerning to me - given I'm on the verge of placing an order for G410 irons!!  My fitter has all the pertinent data from which I presume two things will happen.  First that he orders them from PING with those specs.  Second that PING builds them to those specs.  

From yours and others comments, is this a unrealistic expectation?  If so, that's ridiculous.  Why even bother getting fitted if one cannot depend on a company to build them to a given set of specifications.

From what I understand, Ping is one of the better ones out there.  Having said that, I would still take the clubs back to your fitter when you get them to ensure that they do, indeed, meet the specs you requested.

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This is one of the reasons I paid a premium to get my clubs built by Club Champion with the exact specs from my fitting. I don't trust the OEMs to get the swingweight correct.


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